The Gospel of Reconciliation

[Eternally Grateful]

Im sorry, you are trying to tell me how to be Born Again....

No. Jesus told nicodemus how to be born again.. I just quoted the words of Jesus. Why would you lie and say it is me?

sorry bro you are very confused on what it means to be Born Again like the wind..did you actually read my post?

Sorry sis, You are very confused.

Yes I have read your post. all of them

They leave out WHERE Jesus told nicodemus HOW to be born again.

I even explained it to you.

When I trusted Jesus (looked to the cross) in faith.l The spirit came into me like the wind, I did not know where it came from or where it went.

That is what being born again was.. But the how I was born again is by doing what Jesus said. Look to the cross in faith.

 

[Ritajanice]

@Ritajanice



That figures, you promote the accursed gospel of salvation by works, by what a man does. However thats for a different thread.

I did no works ..God did it all...did you actually understand my post..it sounds like you didn’t..because your preaching is full of confusion...and it’s proven by Gods word..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No...God brings us to believe...draws us to Jesus ,brings us to repentance/ Godly sorrow....you are wrong.

There, You got it. That is how you were born again.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

@Ritajanice



That figures, you promote the accursed gospel of salvation by works, by what a man does. However thats for a different thread.

Its the work of God we believe.

No one can boast because they got on their knees and called out to God in humility.

 

[Ritajanice]

No. Jesus told nicodemus how to be born again.. I just quoted the words of Jesus. Why would you lie and say it is me?

Sorry sis, You are very confused.

Yes I have read your post. all of them

They leave out WHERE Jesus told nicodemus HOW to be born again.

I even explained it to you.

When I trusted Jesus (looked to the cross) in faith.l The spirit came into me like the wind, I did not know where it came from or where it went.

That is what being born again was.. But the how I was born again is by doing what Jesus said. Look to the cross in faith.

I do no such thing on how Jesus explains Born Again.

Tell me..did God explain to me how to be Born Again...I had never read a Bible, not until I became Born Again..so, unfortunately what you say falls flat on its face...I was Born Again like the wind.

 

[Ritajanice]

There, You got it. That is how you were born again.

I said that on many posts..how come you missed them?

 

[Ritajanice]

Its the work of God we believe.

No one can boast because they got on their knees and called out to God in humility.

Exactly!!...I agree on that...100%..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I said that on many posts..how come you missed them?

Now you have me confused.

I say we are born again because we believe

You say God brings us to belief.

You say i am wrong. But then you say you have been saying this all along.

Were you born again because you repented and believed or not?

 

[Ritajanice]

Now you have me confused.

I say we are born again because we believe

You say God brings us to belief.

You say i am wrong. But then you say you have been saying this all along.

Were you born again because you repented and believed or not?

You have completely misunderstood what I said.
And please do not question me over my faith....

I don’t answer to you Bro with respect..I only answer to God....you need to stop telling people how to be Born Again....I also need to do the same so you don’t think I’m a hypocrite.

The only way we come to know Jesus is being drawn to Jesus by God.
God brings us to repentance/ Godly sorrow, God brings us to believe, then I was Born Again and received the gift of Faith that can move mountains, which is a manifestation of the Spirit.

 

[Tulipbee]

More Blasphemy

Ah, brightframe57, the theological guardian of sacred truth, in this Calvinist comedy stage, let's address your concern with a dash of divine humor, quoting the great reformer himself, John Calvin.
Quoting Calvin's Wisdom: John Calvin: "As there is a science of government which teaches us how to protect ourselves against our enemies, how to be at peace with our neighbors, and how to govern our families; so the rudiments of this science, which teaches us to live well and govern ourselves, are contained in the Ten Commandments."
In the Calvinist comedy script, we might say, "Ah, the divine governance manual – like a theological GPS, guiding believers through the complexities of life. Now, about this comedy claim, let's remember, even the Psalmist declares, 'The fool says in his heart, "There is no God" (Psalm 14:1)."
Addressing the Concerns: John Calvin: "By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which He determined with Himself whatever He wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation."
In our Calvinist comedy realm, we'd say, "Ah, the cosmic casting call – God preordaining the characters for eternal roles. It's like a divine blockbuster, where every actor knows their part, and the script is written in the eternal decree."
Proclaiming the Gospel: John Calvin: "The gospel, then, is properly taught not by men alone or by angels, but by the Son of God, even inwardly and to the heart. It casts down the proud, raises up the lowly, consoles the sad, and quenches the wrathful."
In the Calvinist proclamation of the Gospel, we affirm that the transformative power of the Gospel reaches the heart. As 1 Corinthians 1:18 declares, "For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God."
So, brightframe57, let's continue this theological comedy dance, acknowledging the gravity of sacred truths and the divine humor that accompanies the journey. #CalvinistComedyClub #GospelWisdom

 

[Tulipbee]

If you say false, you oppose and deny the scripture. Rom 5:10 plainly states that they who Christ died for were #1 reconciled to God by His death while they were enemies, then it says, moreover being thus reconciled, they shall be saved by His Life, now if you dont believe that, you deny scripture and are in unbelief.

Ah, Eternally Grateful and brightframe57, the theological duel in the Calvinist comedy coliseum, where disagreements are met with a touch of divine humor. Let's waltz through this scriptural sparring match with a Calvinistic twist.

Quoting Calvin's Wisdom on Justification: John Calvin: "Faith alone is the saving and efficacious recognition of God, which unites us to Christ and makes us one with Him."

In the Calvinist comedy script, we might say, "Ah, the divine recognition dance – faith as the bridge that unites believers to Christ. It's like a theological tango, where justification takes the lead, and faith follows the divine choreography."

Addressing Romans 5:10: John Calvin: "Here Paul distinctly relates the two together — that we are reconciled to God through the death of Christ, — in order that we may be partakers of his life."

In our Calvinist comedy realm, we'd say, "Reconciliation and life intertwined – like a theological duet. Christ's death paving the way for reconciliation, and His life ensuring the believers' participation in the divine symphony."

Examining the World in John 3: John Calvin: "For the kingdom of God is not confined to external splendor or to the world, but it is within men."

In the Calvinist proclamation of the Gospel, we affirm that the work of salvation extends beyond external boundaries. As John 3:16 declares, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."

Admonishing Unbelief: John Calvin: "All the blessings we enjoy are Divine deposits, committed to our trust on this condition, that they should be dispensed for the benefit of our neighbors."

In the Calvinist wisdom script, let's remember the responsibility that comes with the divine deposits. Believers, justified by faith, are called to dispense the Gospel for the benefit of others.

So, Eternally Grateful and brightframe57, let the theological dance continue, acknowledging the complexities of divine truths and finding humor in the divine choreography of salvation. #CalvinistComedyClub #GospelWisdom

 

[Tulipbee]

So you seem to believe one must believe first before being born again . Is that correct ?

Ah, Ritajanice and brightframe57, the divine dialogue in the Calvinist comedy theater, where theological discussions take center stage with a touch of humor. Let's pirouette through this conversation, adorned with Calvinistic grace.

Quoting Calvin on Faith and Regeneration: John Calvin: "Faith is a singular gift of God, both in that the mind of man is purged so as to be able to taste the truth of God and in that his heart is established therein."

In the Calvinist comedy script, we might say, "Ah, the divine gift of faith – a purging of the mind to taste the truth of God. It's like a theological feast where belief precedes the divine banquet of regeneration."

Addressing Regeneration and Belief: John Calvin: "We are not made partakers of Christ, or of the Holy Spirit, except so far as our faith embraces Christ, and is quickened by the Spirit."

In our Calvinist comedy realm, we'd say, "Embracing Christ through faith – the divine choreography of regeneration. It's like a theological waltz where belief and quickening dance together in the grace-filled ballroom."

Examining the Gift of Faith: John Calvin: "The nature of faith is not to be considered from the individual, but from the object."

In the Calvinist proclamation of the Gospel, we affirm that faith's essence lies in its object – Christ. As Romans 10:17 states, "So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ."

Admonishing a Correct Understanding: John Calvin: "The sum of the Gospel is, not without good reason, made to consist in repentance and forgiveness of sins."

In the Calvinist wisdom script, let's remind ourselves that repentance and forgiveness are at the heart of the Gospel. As Acts 2:38 declares, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins."

So, Ritajanice and brightframe57, let the theological dance continue, recognizing the divine interplay of faith, regeneration, and the Gospel's unchanging melody. #CalvinistComedyClub #GospelHarmony

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Then obviously he was not a believer who was baptized, both of which are conditions. Salvation comes with conditions. Believing in God is the preeminent condition, but not the only condition.

You make a fantastic argument for joining the Salvation Army.

You also make my #13.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

You said no. So you dont believe Christ died for everyone without exception, correct ?

Correct.

For sure there was one thief he didn't, ergo not everyone.

And I have difficulty believing Jesus did for the man who murdered my close friend along with 5 others of assorted ethnic backgrounds and left 1 permanently paralyzed who held Nazi meetings in his house in April of 2000 was included.... UNLESS he had a come to Jesus moment like Carla Faye Tucker, who killed 2 people with a pick axe did before her death in 1998.

The jury is still out on one man who sexually abused me for many months that I had to keep my mouth shut to keep a job in my 20s, who would flat out state that all are saved.
First those that are Christian... and all the rest being of a Pagan mindset because God wants all to live in a heavenly eternity. Inclusive of the likes of Hitler, and all like him. Again, before he died he may have had an ephfany of truth, but I wont ever know.

NO I am not judging, simply saying a truth.

So repeating my answer to you. Correct

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

So you seem to believe one must believe first before being born again . Is that correct ?

Wait a minute. What do you say the reason for being born again is?

OR better yet... why would you want to be born again if you did not believe?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You have completely misunderstood what I said.
And please do not question me over my faith....

I don’t answer to you Bro with respect..I only answer to God....you need to stop telling people how to be Born Again....I also need to do the same so you don’t think I’m a hypocrite.

You need to stop falsly accusing me. I am not telling people how to do anything, I am posting the words of Jesus

The only way we come to know Jesus is being drawn to Jesus by God.
God brings us to repentance/ Godly sorrow, God brings us to believe, then I was Born Again and received the gift of Faith that can move mountains, which is a manifestation of the Spirit.

Your have the process backwards.

You were not born again before you had faith.. God did not make you alive while still under the penalty of sin.

That would Make God not a righteous judge. But a judge that makes his own rules. and is not a moral God at all..

 

[Ritajanice]

You need to stop falsly accusing me. I am not telling people how to do anything, I am posting the words of Jesus

Your have the process backwards.

You were not born again before you had faith.. God did not make you alive while still under the penalty of sin.

That would Make God not a righteous judge. But a judge that makes his own rules. and is not a moral God at all..

I was Born Again and received Faith at the same time...

Who said he made me alive while I was still under the penalty of Sin?

And you do NOT always preach the word of God as has been pointed out to you by a member.

You aren’t in a position to tell me I have it backwards....as you too are confused at times, just like everyone else.

Once I was drawn to Jesus, then brought to repentance/ Godly sorrow then God brought me to believe in Jesus and after that I was Born Again as God testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children..and I also received God given faith that can move mountains.
I had an AMAZING Baptism in the Spirit..I was Born Again of Gods seed,yup, the same seed that got Mary pregnant.........Praise God...the seed was placed in my heart Spirit gives birth to spirit..and there it took root, because it was the imperishable seed of God.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I was Born Again and received Faith at the same time...

You were born again AFTER you heard the word and trusted.

Who said he made me alive while I was still under the penalty of Sin?

You do. when you say you were regenerated BEFORE you had faith

And you do NOT always preach the word of God as has been pointed out to you by a member.

I never said I did. I am just preaching what Jesus said,

You aren’t in a position to tell me I have it backwards....as you too are confused at times, just like everyone else.

I have every right to share with someone I see in trouble

Once I was drawn to Jesus, then brought to repentance/ Godly sorrow then God brought me to believe in Jesus and after that I was Born Again as God testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children..and I also received God given faith that can move mountains.

You were not born again UNTIL you called out to the name of jesus

we are justified by faith. There is no regeneration UNTIL justification takes place.

 

[Ritajanice]

You were born again AFTER you heard the word and trusted.

I was brought to believe in Jesus by God before I was Born Again was Born Again like the wind..just like Gods word says..the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children..he spoke to my spirit testifying with it who he was, my spirit knew him straight away. Born Again of imperishable seed...do you actually understand that?

You do. when you say you were regenerated BEFORE you had faith

We are Born Again then have been regenerated, I received faith at the same time as becoming Born Again.

I never said I did. I am just preaching what Jesus said,

I have every right to share with someone I see in trouble

You were not born again UNTIL you called out to the name of jesus

we are justified by faith. There is no regeneration UNTIL justification takes place.

Already explained that.

I was Born Again which is being regenerated I received my gift of Faith at the same time..which is a manifestation of the Spirit.

By the way, you weren’t there when I had my mind blowing Born Again experience of becoming Born Again by the seed of God.

Did you receive the imperishable seed! @Eternally Grateful ?

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Ah, 12 pages and 238 replies here and one thing is certain.

The participants will not have changed their minds... and can you just imagine if you were
a newbie on here, and this was your very first Christian Debate and Discussion Forum and you decided to read The Gospel of Reconciliation....for your first encounter of participation and
potential learning.



God bless them and heaven help them.

Perhaps a disclaimer should be first on the menu of threads that says ... Come on in... the water is fine and we really do not bite.