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What are you basing this on? Why would Peter consider Paul's letters to be scripture while Paul himself did not? That doesn't make any sense.
My thought is that the conclusion that Paul's writings were scripture was retrospective.
when Paul wrote the letters, they were just that, letters. Not sure that he intended to pen scripture.
What we have in scripture contains everything we need to know. After studying scripture for a long time, it's clear to me that it's not missing anything that we need to know. So, what basis is there for thinking there would ever be any more scripture to be written?
Right. I'm not opposed to a closed canon of scripture.
I am opposed to the idea that God is finished speaking to us.
His sheep hear his voice and follow.
 

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In relation to what? Not sure what you're asking here exactly, but I see it as occurring when the thousand years expires and just before the return of Christ. But, I don't know if this answers your question or not since your question is not very specific.

You said Satan's little season comes after the thousand expires, but also that time symbolized a thousand years is finished when the seventh angel begins to sound. How can time, symbolized a thousand years be expired and Satan still have a little season of time? If time shall be no longer when the seventh angel sounds, how can there still be a little season given to Satan when there is no more time?

Could it be that the time in view here is a thousand symbolic years that have expired, but the little season given Satan is not included in that time, but separate from it?

I believe Satan is loosed as of the fifth trumpet. If you read Revelation 9 you should see that it talks about the abyss/bottomless pit being opened at that point and it talks about the angel of the abyss, Abaddon/Apollyon, the king of the symbolic locusts (fallen angels) there. I believe that Abaddon/Apollyon is another name for Satan, so that text refers to him and his angels being loosed from the bottomless pit, which is not a literal place that incapacitates Satan as Premils believe.

How can Satan be loosed before time, symbolized a thousand years expires? Rev 9 makes no mention of Satan being loosed from the pit. It describes only those locusts ascending out of the pit and that "they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon." While I agree this king can be none other than depicting Satan, I cannot agree that Satan is set free here. He will not be set free until time, symbolized a thousand years expires. The locust are not given to "hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads." But only to torment those who have NOT the seal of God in their foreheads, they are not permitted to kill them, but only to torment them for five months.

After a thousand years expire Satan's little season is not given for him to torment unbelievers, it is given him to assemble together Gog and Magog to battle against the saints of God, the Church on earth. Instead of battle he is devoured by the fire that comes down from God out of heaven.

I disagree. I believe the seventh trumpet will sound at the end of Satan's little season because once the seventh trumpet sounds, things will happen very quickly, as described in 1 Cor 15:51-52 and Revelation 11:15-18. There will be no time for multiple days and a little season at that point.

I understand this is what you believe. How can Satan have a little season after the seventh angel begins to sound time, symbolized a thousand years shall be no more? Satan can only have a little season after the seventh angel begins to sound if the time that shall be no longer is a thousand symbolic years of time, and after that Satan is given a little season, that is not included with a thousand years.

The three passages below are depicting the same thing. That is the sounding of the seventh angel. These are not the only passages depicting the days when the seventh angel begins to sound. We are changed in a moment and twinkling of an eye at the last/seventh trump. But since the seventh trumpet sounding time shall be no longer in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, in my opinion indicates we shall be raised and changed in a moment during Satan's little season, after time, symbolized a thousand years has expired. Because that's when Satan assembles together Gog & Magog attempting to prevent the Kingdom of God from being completed. But rather then victory of war Satan is cast into the lake of fire where the false prophets are, and fire of God comes down out of heaven and destroys everything living upon this earth.

1 Corinthians 15:51-52 (KJV) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Revelation 10:6-7 (KJV) And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Revelation 20:7-8 (KJV) And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Okay, so how can Satan's little season follow His return? You said that Satan's little season follows the sounding of the seventh trumpet. This does not make any sense.

Satan's little season does not follow Christ's return. It ushers in the return of Christ, because it is during his little season after the thousand years expire that we are caught up to meet the Lord in the air and Satan is utterly destroyed with the return of Christ. This will only make sense for you if you can understand that after the sounding of the seventh angel only time, symbolized a thousand years has come to an end. Then Satan gets his little season in the days following the final trumpet blast.

Exactly that being the few days I mentioned. I don't understand that at all. Do you have any evidence you can use to support the idea that "a little season" could be as short as only a few days? How do you interpret this passage:

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Do you see the "little season", during which the "fellowservants" of those who had died as of the opening of the fifth seal had to wait for their deaths to be avenged, as lasting only a few days?

I believe the first of John's visions beginning in chapter 4 through chapter 6:8 are of heaven where John is given understanding of the Covenant of God to mankind that was ordained in heaven from before the foundation of the world. In 6:9 the vision depicts Old Covenant faithful martyrs who lived from creation but died before the advent of Christ coming to earth a man. That's why they are not yet in heaven, but under the altar. In the vision John sees souls "under the altar slain for the word of God and the testimony they held." These souls were not slain for being witness of Jesus, as we find in Rev 20:4 ..."them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God." Since they lived and died before Christ gave His life to atone for sin, and defeated death when He arose from the dead. Though they would have prophesied about a Messiah who would come, they could not be witness of Jesus, whom they did not live to know Him.

These Old Covenant saints must wait a "little season". Wait for what? To be under the altar indicates they died in faith, believing a Messiah would come to rescue them from the curse of death that came through sin. The blood of Christ as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world is what they must wait for. There will be more of their brothers and Christ Himself who must be slain as they were, before they are sealed with the life giving Spirit of Christ.

How long is the little season they must await? The little season for them could be counted from the birth of Christ, and Satan being cast out, to the cross and resurrection. But I have come to believe the little season began when Christ came in the power of the Holy Spirit through His anointing at His baptism to the cross and resurrection. In other words the little season for which these Old Covenant saints had to wait to ascend to heaven is from Christ's anointing to His cross and resurrection, appx 3 1/2 years.

When we see these slain again, I believe is Rev 7 when they are sealed by the Holy Spirit, called 144,000 of all the tribes of the children of Israel. They too would be included with the innumerable multitude from every nation, but they are first counted separately to indicate they are the firstfruits of God, and the remnant of the faithful from Old Covenant Israel. There're shown again in Rev 14, but then they are seen as having ascended to heaven, because Christ, through His Spirit first descended into the graves, the domain of Satan and set the captives free, leading them with Him to heaven after He resurrected from the grave.
 
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LOL. Apparently not because there's no way she would approve of his behavior. But, he was right about what he said, though. You can't refute a single thing he said. You can refute everything he said.

Exactly. It is easy to see why so many are abandoning Romanism at the moment. It is a religious farce.
 

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But the last trump is the end. The detail attached it could not be more climatic.

Yes, Paul I agree. The last trumpet is the end. The end of time symbolized a thousand years for which the church was given to build the Kingdom of God by taking the Gospel unto all the nations of the world. And when they (Church depicted as two witnesses) have finished their testimony, then Satan is loosed for a little season. Satan will then continue to make war with the church that is still alive on earth when he is loosed, the witnesses are overcome and killed, and appear to be without power. But after three days and a half the Spirit of God enters them, and all will see them raised to life, and ascending to heaven in a cloud. Then shall be the final day of the days the seventh trumpet sounds, when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of Christ forever.
 

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Yes, Paul I agree. The last trumpet is the end. The end of time symbolized a thousand years for which the church was given to build the Kingdom of God by taking the Gospel unto all the nations of the world. And when they (Church depicted as two witnesses) have finished their testimony, then Satan is loosed for a little season. Satan will then continue to make war with the church that is still alive on earth when he is loosed, the witnesses are overcome and killed, and appear to be without power. But after three days and a half the Spirit of God enters them, and all will see them raised to life, and ascending to heaven in a cloud. Then shall be the final day of the days the seventh trumpet sounds, when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of Christ forever.

Yes, but i think you are confusing "the last days" with "the last day (singular) or "end times" and "the end." You are taking away the climactic nature of "the last days" and "the end."
 
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Yes, but i think you are confusing "the last days" with "the last day (singular) or "end times" and "the end." You are taking away the climactic nature of "the last days" and "the end."

Perhaps, but that is not my intention. We are and have been living in these last days, or end times since the first advent of Christ. This is the symbolic time written a thousand years. I'm unable to understand how there shall be time no longer in the days (plural) when the seventh angel begins to sound and still insist Satan's little season is not included in the days when the angel begins to sound? I wonder if it would be logical to believe the seventh trumpet sounds at both the beginning and the end of Satan's little season??? In that way the trumpet would sound the end of time, symbolized a thousand years, as well the beginning of Satan's little season??? But then also the trumpet shall sound the last day of these days when Satan's little season ends???

Is there another way to understand how time can be no more, but not really because Satan still gets his little season???
 

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Perhaps, but that is not my intention. We are and have been living in these last days, or end times since the first advent of Christ. This is the symbolic time written a thousand years. I'm unable to understand how there shall be time no longer in the days (plural) when the seventh angel begins to sound and still insist Satan's little season is not included in the days when the angel begins to sound? I wonder if it would be logical to believe the seventh trumpet sounds at both the beginning and the end of Satan's little season??? In that way the trumpet would sound the end of time, symbolized a thousand years, as well the beginning of Satan's little season??? But then also the trumpet shall sound the last day of these days when Satan's little season ends???

Is there another way to understand how time can be no more, but not really because Satan still gets his little season???

You know that i love and respect you highly. Your posts are solid, orthodox and enjoyable. We may at times see things different, but it will never affect my respect for you.

I would encourage you to check out anything that I am about to say here in order to establish if it is true to the original Greek. I would like you to see the contrast between "the days" of operation and then "the day."

Revelation 10:7 instructs:But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, [Gr. mellō salpizō intend to sound a blast] the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

I think it might be the word “begin” in the KJV that is influencing your argument. But it does not fairly represent the original. I believe the 7th angel (as the others) are on the scene before “the last day” arrives, implementing God’s will on this earth. The 7 "pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth" or "the seven last plagues ... [of] the wrath of God" from the First Advent and the introduction of "the last days." The 7 angels perform this during the intra-Advent period (“the last days”) and up to and including the glorious second Advent (“the last day”). The 7th angel being the last to fulfil its assignment at the end. So, I have no difficulty with the time preceding the Lord’s return covering the time of the assignment of these heavenly angels.

While there will be a season of activity for this last angel with the last trumpet judgment, there is a final pouring out of sudden judgment that brings an end to time, the sinner and all wickedness. This is where the mystery of God finishes, as we will then know as we are known. Time at this stage will be over. We are now into eternity.

Jesus said in Luke 17:26-30, “as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.”

After speaking of the “days of Noe” and the “days of Lot,” the Lord then explains of a singular “day” when the righteous were rescued and the wicked were destroyed. Whilst the Lord presents the rebellion and debauchery that preceded both of these judgments as a sign of how things will exist prior to the day of His all-consummating appearing, the main focus of His teaching relates to the focus and scale of the wrath which did fall on these two solemn days of destruction and how they accurately reflect what will happen at the second coming. Both individually and jointly, they supply us with a stunning insight into the nature of the actual day that Christ’s returns and to the days that precede His glorious second coming. In their substance and importance these two Old Testament days are distinct and unique. And whilst the nature of the judgment and geographical extent of both appreciably varies, brought-together, they graphically represent (1) the type of catastrophe coming, and (2) the scale of the destruction at the end. Scripture nowhere separates in time the gathering of the Lord's people to Himself with the destruction of the wicked.
 
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You know that i love and respect you highly. Your posts are solid, orthodox and enjoyable. We may at times see things different, but it will never affect my respect for you.

I would encourage you to check out anything that I am about to say here in order to establish if it is true to the original Greek. I would like you to see the contrast between "the days" of operation and then "the day."

Revelation 10:7 instructs:But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, [Gr. mellō salpizō intend to sound a blast] the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

I think it might be the word “begin” in the KJV that is influencing your argument. But it does not fairly represent the original. I believe the 7th angel (as the others) are on the scene before “the last day” arrives, implementing God’s will on this earth. The 7 "pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth" or "the seven last plagues ... [of] the wrath of God" from the First Advent and the introduction of "the last days." The 7 angels perform this during the intra-Advent period (“the last days”) and up to and including the glorious second Advent (“the last day”). The 7th angel being the last to fulfil its assignment at the end. So, I have no difficulty with the time preceding the Lord’s return covering the time of the assignment of these heavenly angels.

While there will be a season of activity for this last angel with the last trumpet judgment, there is a final pouring out of sudden judgment that brings an end to time, the sinner and all wickedness. This is where the mystery of God finishes, as we will then know as we are known. Time at this stage will be over. We are now into eternity.

Jesus said in Luke 17:26-30, “as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.”

After speaking of the “days of Noe” and the “days of Lot,” the Lord then explains of a singular “day” when the righteous were rescued and the wicked were destroyed. Whilst the Lord presents the rebellion and debauchery that preceded both of these judgments as a sign of how things will exist prior to the day of His all-consummating appearing, the main focus of His teaching relates to the focus and scale of the wrath which did fall on these two solemn days of destruction and how they accurately reflect what will happen at the second coming. Both individually and jointly, they supply us with a stunning insight into the nature of the actual day that Christ’s returns and to the days that precede His glorious second coming. In their substance and importance these two Old Testament days are distinct and unique. And whilst the nature of the judgment and geographical extent of both appreciably varies, brought-together, they graphically represent (1) the type of catastrophe coming, and (2) the scale of the destruction at the end. Scripture nowhere separates in time the gathering of the Lord's people to Himself with the destruction of the wicked.

I fully agree with all you have written here. I don't believe I have implied otherwise. That which gives me trouble is not when the seventh angel 'begins' to sound, it's the phrase "But in the days (plural) the voice of the seventh angel". The trumpet blast sounds to indicate the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Does that not mean the Kingdom of God is complete because the last Gentile has been saved? While I agree the trumpets have been blasting throughout this age of Gospel grace, I can't understand how the seventh trumpet is also, if that's what you are saying?? In writing days is John implying also the trumpet sounding Satan's little season?

With each of the first six trumpets what is written comes to pass during this age of time. None of them imply that which subsequently follows the blast of the trumpet will be for only ONE day. But when the seventh trumpet sounds something does come to pass immediately, "there should be time no longer." If the time that is no longer is the symbolic thousand years as I believe it is, that is when Satan is loosed, because the "mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets." If the mystery that was hidden that has been revealed through the prophets is that Gentiles of faith have completed the Kingdom of God, again, the seventh trumpet must also be sounding the beginning of Satan's little season???

Am I still making this as clear as mud???
 

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I fully agree with all you have written here. I don't believe I have implied otherwise. That which gives me trouble is not when the seventh angel 'begins' to sound, it's the phrase "But in the days (plural) the voice of the seventh angel". The trumpet blast sounds to indicate the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Does that not mean the Kingdom of God is complete because the last Gentile has been saved? While I agree the trumpets have been blasting throughout this age of Gospel grace, I can't understand how the seventh trumpet is also, if that's what you are saying?? In writing days is John implying also the trumpet sounding Satan's little season?

With each of the first six trumpets what is written comes to pass during this age of time. None of them imply that which subsequently follows the blast of the trumpet will be for only ONE day. But when the seventh trumpet sounds something does come to pass immediately, "there should be time no longer." If the time that is no longer is the symbolic thousand years as I believe it is, that is when Satan is loosed, because the "mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets." If the mystery that was hidden that has been revealed through the prophets is that Gentiles of faith have completed the Kingdom of God, again, the seventh trumpet must also be sounding the beginning of Satan's little season???

Am I still making this as clear as mud???
All function during the last days, but it is the responsibility of the 7th angel to usher in the end (the last day) with that final blast.
 
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What are the contents of that NT canon? Anything different than what we have in hand?
Or are you suggesting that Protestants don't have the latest authorized canon?
If so, why the change from an earlier ruling?

BTW: Thanks again for your informative posts.
They follow the very same NT Canon that was declared at the Synod of Rome in 383AD.

Luther wanted to remove the Epistles of James and Jude and Revelation from the New Testament. He particularly disliked James because of its emphasis on works interfered with Luther’s newly-invented doctrine of “Faith Alone (Sola Fide). Had it not been for the advice of his contemporaries – especially Philip Melanchton – Protestant bibles would have been a LOT thinner.

The New Testament contains 27 Bools and the Old Testament contains 46. Protestant versions only contain 39 Books because they removed 7 Books including portions of Daniel and Esther.

They follow the very same NT Canon that was declared at the Synod of Rome in 383AD.

The New Testament contains:

Gospel According to Matthew
Gospel According to Mark
Gospel According to Luke
Gospel According to John
Acts of the Apostles
Letter of Paul to the Romans
I Corinthians
II Corinthians
Letter of Paul to the Galatians
Letter of Paul to the Ephesians
Letter of Paul to the Philippians
Letter of Paul to the Colossians
I Thessalonians
II Thessalonians
I Timothy
II Timothy
Letter of Paul to Titus
Letter of Paul to Philemon
Letter to the Hebrews
Letter of James
I Peter
II Peter
I John
II John
III John
Letter of Jude
Revelation to John
 

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All function during the last days, but it is the responsibility of the 7th angel to usher in the end (the last day) with that final blast.
I agree,

Revelation 10:7KJV
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
 

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They follow the very same NT Canon that was declared at the Synod of Rome in 383AD.

Luther wanted to remove the Epistles of James and Jude and Revelation from the New Testament. He particularly disliked James because of its emphasis on works interfered with Luther’s newly-invented doctrine of “Faith Alone (Sola Fide). Had it not been for the advice of his contemporaries – especially Philip Melanchton – Protestant bibles would have been a LOT thinner.

The New Testament contains 27 Bools and the Old Testament contains 46. Protestant versions only contain 39 Books because they removed 7 Books including portions of Daniel and Esther.

They follow the very same NT Canon that was declared at the Synod of Rome in 383AD.

The New Testament contains:

Gospel According to Matthew
Gospel According to Mark
Gospel According to Luke
Gospel According to John
Acts of the Apostles
Letter of Paul to the Romans
I Corinthians
II Corinthians
Letter of Paul to the Galatians
Letter of Paul to the Ephesians
Letter of Paul to the Philippians
Letter of Paul to the Colossians
I Thessalonians
II Thessalonians
I Timothy
II Timothy
Letter of Paul to Titus
Letter of Paul to Philemon
Letter to the Hebrews
Letter of James
I Peter
II Peter
I John
II John
III John
Letter of Jude
Revelation to John

How did we remove something that was not there? That is ridiculous! Protestants take their lead from the ancient Jews re their own Scriptures, something your Pope disagrees with. We are in keeping with their authorities through the centuries.

Your decaying Church has no answer to the truth. Your failure to address multiple Scriptures/issues here exposes the apostate nature of your institution.
 
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The RCC is not orthodox Christianity, otherwise the Reformation would have been unnecessary; but you cannot even demonstrate support from the RCC, let alone from orthodox Christianity.

You're a one-man show frequently espousing your own flavor of cultic modernism.
The Reformers were not either. They came out of the RCC. The RCC and today's Reformers are today's cultic modernism. They all evolved away from Scripture. They think they have orthodox Christianity, yet have nothing, but what has been handed down and changed over the generations.

You have the two backwards, and cannot even see the difference. I don't need the writings of man you allege as "orthodox Christianity". I have the Bible. Then, Revelation 3:1


"I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead."

Now, Revelation 3:15-17


"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:"

That is the establishment you adhere to, and accuse me of avoiding. It is avoided for a good reason.
 

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Did the NT fulfill and make obsolete the OT?
Is the NT still at work, or finished?

Neither are declared accomplished until Adam's disobedience is totally restored. You should still keep the 10 commandments. You don't have to bring an animal sacrifice to Sunday worship, unless in a remote location where that is a more practical means of support for your pastor than currency.
 

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The Reformers were not either. They came out of the RCC. The RCC and today's Reformers are today's cultic modernism. They all evolved away from Scripture. They think they have orthodox Christianity, yet have nothing, but what has been handed down and changed over the generations.

You have the two backwards, and cannot even see the difference. I don't need the writings of man you allege as "orthodox Christianity". I have the Bible. Then, Revelation 3:1


"I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead."

Now, Revelation 3:15-17


"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:"

That is the establishment you adhere to, and accuse me of avoiding. It is avoided for a good reason.

Yeah right! No one knows the truth apart from you. What absolute nonsense. You invent beliefs that no one else teaches and then rubbish the rest. That is ultimate deception.
 
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The Reformers were not either. They came out of the RCC. The RCC and today's Reformers are today's cultic modernism.
So that again leaves only you as the sole and exclusive repository of truth. :laughing:

Call up the pope and tell him to vacate, because you're coming. :laughing:

More one-man cultism.
 

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Is the NT still at work, or finished?

Neither are declared accomplished until Adam's disobedience is totally restored. You should still keep the 10 commandments. You don't have to bring an animal sacrifice to Sunday worship, unless in a remote location where that is a more practical means of support for your pastor than currency.
You can't even answer questions, nor remember your own posts.

You said that the OT was fulfilled and made obsolete.

Again: Was the OT fulfilled and made obsolete by the NT?

If not, what has fulfilled and made obsolete the OT?
 

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Revelation 10:7 But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.”
This has the mystery finished even before the 7th Trumpet sounds.

The celebration would be a week long event. You have everything celebrated, and going on for a week. Then at the last hour of the week, there is a quick note of a Trumpet, and it is over?

That is the same week, that Satan and angels are cast out of heaven. Then in the midst of that week Satan is allowed 42 months splitting the celebration in half. That means the 7th Trumpet does not ever sound, until all are dead after Armageddon. Then a short blast after all are dead. Then every one goes "home"?
 

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This has the mystery finished even before the 7th Trumpet sounds.

The celebration would be a week long event. You have everything celebrated, and going on for a week. Then at the last hour of the week, there is a quick note of a Trumpet, and it is over?

That is the same week, that Satan and angels are cast out of heaven. Then in the midst of that week Satan is allowed 42 months splitting the celebration in half. That means the 7th Trumpet does not ever sound, until all are dead after Armageddon. Then a short blast after all are dead. Then every one goes "home"?
Chaotic Confusion
 
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