22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

[Spiritual Israelite]

Hey, just curious.

Your name infers that you are into replacement theology.

Is that true even a wee bit?

Define "replacement theology". In my theology, no one gets replaced.

 

[St. Joseph]

LOL

That'll do away with this....

20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired,

I would just ignore him. You're casting pearls before swine. Is evidently biblical illiterate. Can tell he has never study any old testament. If he had he would understand what we're saying. He tries learning own his own and learns nothing
God bless

 

[Truther]

It's symbolic of the time period during which Satan is bound while Christ reigns. He started reigning after His resurrection when Satan was bound from preventing the light of the gospel from spreading throughout the world. There will be a "little season" after the thousand years ends that will lead up to the day of His return.

Satan is bound?

He is no longer the prince of the powers of...?

He is banished from the earth?

 

[WPM]

Hey, just curious.

Your name infers that you are into replacement theology.

Is that true even a wee bit?

Replacing who?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Not "symbolic", but SIGNified.

Get it right.

Jesus said "sign of the son of man...".

You folks think he said "symbols of the son of man...".

LOL

LOL. What are you trying to say, that there's no symbols in the book of Revelation. LOL. You waste so much time with semantics. How can we take you seriously when that is the case? It makes it almost impossible. You won't just stick to the discussion at hand. Instead, you want to argue about what terms should be used. Ridiculous. LOL.

 

[Truther]

I'm not redefining it. I'm careful not to interpret it in such a way that contradicts other scripture. But, you are not. For example, other scripture indicates that Jesus has been reigning since His resurrection. Do you take that into account when interpreting Revelation 20? Clearly not. Other scripture, like John 5:28-29, indicates that all of the dead, saved and lost, will be resurrected at generally the same time. Do you take this into account when interpreting Revelation 20? Clearly not.


Not at all. Stop wasting time making things up. You're coming across like a clown here.


Judging by you, it seems that the list is endless.

You are inventing redefinitions to Rev via concordances.

You would not even be an Amil if they never invented them.

Stick to context, not concordances.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Satan is bound?

He is no longer the prince of the powers of...?

He is banished from the earth?

Is that what I said? No. Do I need to do all your work for you? Do you at all know what Amillennialists believe? You should do some research and find out what we actually believe before spending time refuting something that you don't even understand.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You are inventing redefinitions to Rev via concordances.

You would not even be an Amil if they never invented them.

Stick to context, not concordances.

LOL. Don't waste my time with this nonsense. Back up your views with scripture or step aside and let the adults discuss things.

 

[WPM]

I would just ignore him. You're casting pearls before swine. Is evidently biblical illiterate. Can tell he has never study any old testament. If he had he would understand what we're saying. He tries learning own his own and learns nothing
God bless

This is one master avoider talking to another master avoider. LOL. Yes. I agree. It is time to run. That is Phase 3 of the Premil mode of engagement. (1) Avoidance, (2) name-calling and ad hominem, (3) run. Premil cannot abide the truth.

 

[Truther]

Replacing who?

Taking the place of future national Israel's promise per Jer 31 and Heb 8.

Eliminating them and stealing their promise to the fathers.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I would just ignore him. You're casting pearls before swine. Is evidently biblical illiterate. Can tell he has never study any old testament. If he had he would understand what we're saying. He tries learning own his own and learns nothing
God bless

You are both clearly very ignorant about the New Testament. You also seem to be both be incapable of backing up anything you say with scripture. You apparently just like to see yourself talk and don't really care whether you can back up your words with scripture or not.

 

[WPM]

I would just ignore him. You're casting pearls before swine. Is evidently biblical illiterate. Can tell he has never study any old testament. If he had he would understand what we're saying. He tries learning own his own and learns nothing
God bless

Bye, bye.

 

[WPM]

Taking the place of future national Israel's promise per Jer 31 and Heb 8.

Eliminating them and stealing their promise to the fathers.

Really? Who are the children of Abraham today? We the redeemed Church. It is not about race, but grace. That is not replacement theology but expansion theology

 

[Truther]

LOL. What are you trying to say, that there's no symbols in the book of Revelation. LOL. You waste so much time with semantics. How can we take you seriously when that is the case? It makes it almost impossible. You won't just stick to the discussion at hand. Instead, you want to argue about what terms should be used. Ridiculous. LOL.

No, I am trying to fix your broken theology.

Stick to Biblical meanings and not modern descriptions.

Jesus never told a metaphor, ever.

That is like saying Jesus told a lie.

Metaphors are a modern description for white lies and open ended meanings.

If I answered you with metaphors you would flip out on me.

 

[Truther]

LOL. Don't waste my time with this nonsense. Back up your views with scripture or step aside and let the adults discuss things.

Democrats in the room?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No, I am trying to fix your broken theology.

LOL. That's a good one. You think you can do that with your many words that you don't ever back up with scripture? Think again.

Stick to Biblical meanings and not modern descriptions.

I do.

Jesus never told a metaphor, ever.

He told parables. Whatever. Let me know when you decide to ever have a point that is worth discussing.

 

[Truther]

Really? Who are the children of Abraham today? We the redeemed Church. It is not about race, but grace. That is not replacement theology but expansion theology

So, do you think God abandoned His promise to the future descendants of Israel and Judah and gave them to you?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Democrats in the room?

Democrat? LOL!!! You keep digging your hole deeper and deeper. You are making a complete fool of yourself by misrepresenting me and my beliefs. You are as clueless as they come.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So, do you think God abandoned His promise to the future descendants of Israel and Judah and gave them to you?

What promise are you talking about exactly? Are you talking about promises made to Abraham and his seed?

 

[Truther]

LOL. That's a good one. You think you can do that with your many words that you don't ever back up with scripture? Think again.


I do.


He told parables. Whatever. Let me know when you decide to ever have a point that is worth discussing.

A parable is not possibly a historic event?

None of them.

All made up, fictitious imaginary stories?