Another Premillennial absurdity

[WPM]

A couple of billion out of 90 billion is a few.

How do you know the sand of the sea equals a couple of billion? You are the one that keeps saying billions. I assume that is plural for 1 billion, thus 2 billion.

Sin is disobedience to God. Death is rejecting Christ. Is it a sin to follow your pastor? Is it a sin to follow any one?

Is it a sin to think about sin?

I never heard anything so ridiculous in my life. Where do you get this 90 billion from? Where do you get those 2 billion from? It is all a figment of your imagination. 2 billion wicked mortals overrunning your supposed perfect blissful millennium is a debacle. It seems like you make your theology up as you go.

 

[WPM]

Since you did not quote the verses, why should I? I know who is telling the Truth. I already quoted them. You could have quoted them several replies ago, or addressed them instead of my posting style.

You cannot produce evidence because you do that have it. You are obviously not telling the truth.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

It does not say that "the day of the Lord" is a "thousand years." That is another addition you make to Scripture to support your faulty beliefs.

Exactly. There is no correlation between 2 Peter 3:8 and Revelation 20 whatsoever, but some people insist on trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

 

[Timtofly]

I never heard anything so ridiculous in my life. Where do you get this 90 billion from? Where do you get those 2 billion from? It is all a figment of your imagination. 2 billion wicked mortals overrunning your supposed perfect blissful millennium is a debacle. It seems like you make your theology up as you go.

So you are wrong that the Millennium is a bust with billions of sinners.

Thanks for changing your mind, that your declaration was ridiculous.

Your millennium has 8 billion sinners. It is a bust.

 

[Timtofly]

You cannot produce evidence because you do that have it. You are obviously not telling the truth.

Neither do you in your opening post.

It has taken you 1761 replies to figure out your op is in error and a lie?

One of the main problems Premillennialism has is that it has a glorified Jesus bringing back all the redeemed of all the ages that have enjoyed perfect communion with Christ in His majestic heavenly presence since the time He defeated sin and death 2000 years ago, giving them new eternal incorruptible bodies at His second coming, along with the living in Christ, rewarding them with eternal bliss, and then bringing them back to a corruptible millennial earth filled with degenerates, death, decay and depravity, just like our present day. It is just another re-run of our current evil age.

Premillennialism has saints that have been delivered from a sinful world thousands of years ago being forced to come back to watch the folly of the rebuilding of a new temple, the debacle of futile animal sacrifices, the restoration of the old covenant priesthood, continued sin, death and decay. Finally, the saints will have to engage in literal physical spiritual warfare in their glorified bodies with Satan and his global mortal army – Gog and Magog. They will be confronted with the awful sight of Satan being released from his prison to mobilize a global assault upon Jesus and the glorified saints in earthly Jerusalem. This army will consist of all the millennial mortals that have feigned worship to the Lord Jesus Christ for a thousand years turning in their billions at the drop of a hat from following Jesus to following Satan as the sand of the sea.

This whole portrayal is ridiculous and nonsensical, and will never happen.

In case you forgot.

 

[WPM]

Neither do you in your opening post.

It has taken you 1761 replies to figure out your op is in error and a lie?



In case you forgot.

You are yet to find one single hole in the Op. You are ducking around the issues. Please present what is wrong biblically, not what cuts across what you have been taught or invented. After all, that is totally inadmissible.

 

[Timtofly]

You are yet to find one single hole in the Op. You are ducking around the issues. Please present what is wrong biblically, not what cuts across what you have been taught or invented. After all, that is totally inadmissible.

You mean that you agree with Premil, and that makes your argument airtight?

Since you are a closet premil, you are erroneous in your premil doctrine, and your Amil personality would agree with me.

Your OP has holes in it, because Amil would call it erroneous from the start. Your premise that there are no holes, is based on trying to prove Premil are correct, and thus cannot be proven wrong, in an argument.

Then that is your argument, in your head, they are wrong. Of course they are wrong. The point is Amil are wrong because they don't correct the error. They introduce a totally different error.


There is no sin, death, nor sin nature in the Millennium. That is the truth that cannot be denied, nor refuted. Obviously you avoid making that claim, by denying the Millennium altogether, and you refuse to accept your own argument in regards to the Millennium, even though it is air tight.

 

[WPM]

You mean that you agree with Premil, and that makes your argument airtight?

Since you are a closet premil, you are erroneous in your premil doctrine, and your Amil personality would agree with me.

Your OP has holes in it, because Amil would call it erroneous from the start. Your premise that there are no holes, is based on trying to prove Premil are correct, and thus cannot be proven wrong, in an argument.

Then that is your argument, in your head, they are wrong. Of course they are wrong. The point is Amil are wrong because they don't correct the error. They introduce a totally different error.


There is no sin, death, nor sin nature in the Millennium. That is the truth that cannot be denied, nor refuted. Obviously you avoid making that claim, by denying the Millennium altogether, and you refuse to accept your own argument in regards to the Millennium, even though it is air tight.

It is hard to take your posts serious when you come out with childish stuff like this. It seems like you have nothing to bring to the table, thus your increasing frustration.

 

[Timtofly]

It is hard to take your posts serious when you come out with childish stuff like this. It seems like you have nothing to bring to the table, thus your increasing frustration.

Yet facts are stubborn, and you have no answer, but opinions on my posting style.

 

[WPM]

Yet facts are stubborn, and you have no answer, but opinions on my posting style.

The longer you are on these boards the shorter and more evasive your posts get. That is because you cannot deal with the biblical facts presented to you. I refer you back to all the avoided evidence.

You could not even find one single error in the Op.

 

[Timtofly]

The longer you are on these boards the shorter and more evasive your posts get. That is because you cannot deal with the biblical facts presented to you. I refer you back to all the avoided evidence.

You could not even find one single error in the Op.

That you are a closet premill is evident. You argue very well their points. Premil is not absurd. Your premise is absurd because it is in error.

There is no sin and death in the Millennium. That is the airtight point, that can not be refuted.

 

[WPM]

That you are a closet premill is evident. You argue very well their points. Premil is not absurd. Your premise is absurd because it is in error.

There is no sin and death in the Millennium. That is the airtight point, that can not be refuted.

You duck around Satan's little season as if it is not in Revelation 20. Well, it is there. It cuts across your perfect wholesale submission to Christ. It cuts across your perfect pristine Edenic environment. This is an illusion. Your millennium is saturated with billions of phonies who reveal their hand when Satan appears. He overruns your millennium with his followers - as the sand of the sea.

 

[WPM]

That you are a closet premill is evident. You argue very well their points.

You are definitely running out of arguments. That will never happen. Truth is too important to me.

 

[WPM]

There is no sin, death, nor sin nature in the Millennium. That is the truth that cannot be denied, nor refuted. Obviously you avoid making that claim, by denying the Millennium altogether, and you refuse to accept your own argument in regards to the Millennium, even though it is air tight.

How can you come out with nonsense like this when everyone knows from reading Rev 20 that the millennium is overrun at the end by the wicked as the sand of the sea by billions of satanists?

 

[WPM]

You duck around Satan's little season as if it is not in Revelation 20. Well, it is there. It cuts across your perfect wholesale submission to Christ. It cuts across your perfect pristine Edenic environment. This is an illusion. Your millennium is saturated with billions of phonies who reveal their hand when Satan appears. He overruns your millennium with his followers - as the sand of the sea.
There is no sin, death, nor sin nature in the Millennium. That is the truth that cannot be denied, nor refuted. Obviously you avoid making that claim, by denying the Millennium altogether, and you refuse to accept your own argument in regards to the Millennium, even though it is air tight.

Who are these billions of wicked mortals that overrun your future millennium? Where do they come from? Who are the saints that they surround at the end? Where do they come from? How can they possibly be considered as sinless when they betray Christ and follow their master Satan? You have skipped around these simple questions for long enough.

Your sinless sinners doctrine is ridiculous. It is anti-biblical and anti-truth and anti-commonsense. I don't know how you can seriously push it. To even imagine that a mortal (whether saved or not) has the capability not to sin runs contrary to numerous Scripture. Not that that is an obstacle to you. You admit you don't believe in the necessity of corroboration. With this belief you don't even have a proof-text.

 

[Timtofly]

You duck around Satan's little season as if it is not in Revelation 20. Well, it is there. It cuts across your perfect wholesale submission to Christ. It cuts across your perfect pristine Edenic environment. This is an illusion. Your millennium is saturated with billions of phonies who reveal their hand when Satan appears. He overruns your millennium with his followers - as the sand of the sea.

Actually it comes after the 1,000 years. It does not cut across the 1000 years, as you seem to make stuff up, to refute, like fake windmills.

 

[WPM]

Actually it comes after the 1,000 years. It does not cut across the 1000 years, as you seem to make stuff up, to refute, like fake windmills.

5 mins before the end of your imaginary future millennium of bliss these billions of wicked were waiting (as the sand of the sea) for their master Satan. The moment he appeared these millennial masses forsook Christ en-masse and overrun the age to come from one corner of the earth to the other.

 

[jeffweeder]

There is no sin, death, nor sin nature in the Millennium. That is the truth that cannot be denied, nor refuted.

It is easily refuted Tim.
If there was no sin nature after Jesus second coming, then all would be a part of the camp of the saints and all would therefore be Glorified as Jesus has atoned for their sin and honored their repentance with the promise of having a body like Jesus Glorified body at his appearing.
According to Apostle Paul such people would remain with him forevermore.

1Thess 4
7 Then we who are alive and remain [on the earth] will simultaneously be caught up (raptured) together with them [the resurrected ones] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord! 18 Therefore comfort and encourage one another with these words [concerning our reunion with believers who have died].

So the sin nature clearly remains throughout your proposed millennium as that is the reason they were not Glorified with those who were ready at his appearing.

The future millennium is therefore a complete joke and a complete waste of time and would bring nothing but disappointment to the Glorified elect who were meant to reigning over them.
Not the spingboard into eternity we are promised coming off the back of such a failure.

 

[Timtofly]

How can you come out with nonsense like this when everyone knows from reading Rev 20 that the millennium is overrun at the end by the wicked as the sand of the sea by billions of satanists?

The word "overrun" is for dramatic effects. Still not using Scripture. You are digging deep in the barrel trying to find excuses why there is not a Millennium after the Second Coming.

 

[Timtofly]

Who are these billions of wicked mortals that overrun your future millennium? Where do they come from? Who are the saints that they surround at the end? Where do they come from? How can they possibly be considered as sinless when they betray Christ and follow their master Satan? You have skipped around these simple questions for long enough.

Your sinless sinners doctrine is ridiculous. It is anti-biblical and anti-truth and anti-commonsense. I don't know how you can seriously push it. To even imagine that a mortal (whether saved or not) has the capability not to sin runs contrary to numerous Scripture. Not that that is an obstacle to you. You admit you don't believe in the necessity of corroboration. With this belief you don't even have a proof-text.

Where do people come from? Normally two humans get together. One male, and one female. I am pretty sure you can twist that fact some how.

So is your eternal anti sin, anti sinner doctrine after the Second Coming as well then. If it does not work for me, then it cannot work for you, either.