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covenantee

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Matt. 18:17-18 – the Church (not Scripture) is the final authority on questions of the faith.
This is typical risible heretical RC eisegesis. Locate a Scripture which can be wildly extrapolated, and then attempt to use it to support RC false dogma.

Matthew 18:17-18 deals with church discipline. It in no way cedes Scriptural authority to the church.

Notwithstanding the obvious, for centuries the RC church has claimed to interpret, and attempted to supplant, Scripture; with a vast plethora of pronouncements, declarations, edicts, and dogmas, innumerable of which are alien, and in direct contradiction, to Scripture.

But the Church does not interpret Scripture. The reality is the diametric opposite: Scripture interprets the Church. It is within the pages of Scripture where the Church is born, and lives, and where its ultimate destiny is described. Where interpretive questions arise, the answers can be found in other Scripture, consistent with the principle that Scripture interprets Scripture (Acts 17:11). All Scripture is given by inspiration of God (2 Timothy 3:16). RC emanations are never scripture.

Thank God for the Reformation, and for Sola Scriptura, which returned God's Word to its rightful place of preeminence.

Luke 24:45
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Acts 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Romans 15:4
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Galatians 3:22
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

2 Timothy 3:15
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
 
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And if the Catholic Church had had her way, the only language the Bible would available in would be Latin. And the only people permitted to read it would be the clergy. And the only people permitted to explain it's meaning, would be committees of men with the sole purpose of preserving Catholic power and authority over the consciences of men.
And if the Jesuit Guy Hawkes Plan Had Succeeded in 1605, We Wouldn't Have The KJV Bible

Thank You Lord Jesus!
 

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Why is it that you DODGE every question I ask of you?

ONE more time, my cowardly friend:
Point me to where the Bible says that we are to forsake the Church and ONLY read our Bibles. Chapter and Verse, please.

While you're at it - WHOSE interpretations are correct? Just YOURS?
Tell that the tens of thousands of perpetually-splintering factions your Protestant Fathers spawned - that ALL teach different doctrines based on each individual's personal interpretations . . .
I do meet with others . Just not under leadership that teaches falsehoods . We gather in the glorious name of Christ
and honor the glorious Lord . As for those who preach falsehoods we dont partake in that .
 

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It's better to post in English. I had to use google translater. If you want to change your password, I suggest you sign out and re-register under a different user name on a different computer and notify a moderator that you have 2 accounts with no malice intended.

translation from English to Ukrainian.
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напишіть мені приватне повідомлення, щоб ми могли поспілкуватися!
 

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You said "joyous". I didn't.

What assassinations did Francis commemorate during his commemoration of the Reformation?
None, be ause that's totally irrelevant.
It's as foolish a question as asking me if he mentioned that he like spaghetti in his address.

One thing has nothing to do with the other, Einstein . . .
 

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Who and in what year?
Time for a History Lesson . . .

The Synod of Rome (382) is where the canon was first formally identified – ALL 73 (not 66) Books.

- 11 years after that, it was confirmed at the Synod of Hippo (393).
- 4 years later, at the Council (or Synod) of Carthage (397), it was yet again confirmed. The bishops wrote at the end of their document, "But let Church beyond sea (Rome) be consulted about confirming this canon". There were 44 bishops, including St. Augustine who signed the document.
- 7 years later, in 405, in a letter from Pope Innocent I to Exsuperius, Bishop of Toulouse, he reiterated the canon.
- 14 years after that, at the 2nd Council (Synod) of Carthage (419) the canon was again formally confirmed.

The Canon of Scripture was officially closed at the Council of Trent in the 16th century because of the perversions happening within Protestantism and the random editing and deleting of books from the Canon.

Them's the historical facts, Einstein . . .
 

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And if the Catholic Church had had her way, the only language the Bible would available in would be Latin. And the only people permitted to read it would be the clergy. And the only people permitted to explain it's meaning, would be committees of men with the sole purpose of preserving Catholic power and authority over the consciences of men.
Anotheer idiotic statement - born in utter ignorance of history.
Time to take YOU out to the historical woodshed . . .

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years BEFORE the Protestant Revolt, we have the first English translations of Scripture.
In a 7th century English monastery, a scribed named Caedmon translated Genesis, Exodus and portions of the New Testament. His contemporary, Bede translated the Gospel of John.

The Catholic Douai-Rheims English translation of the New Testament portion was published in Reims, France, in 1582, The Old Testament portion was published 27 years later in 1609 and 1610 by the University of Douai.

The Protestant KJV wasn’t published until 1611.
So much for your anti-Catholic nonsense . . .
 

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I do meet with others . Just not under leadership that teaches falsehoods . We gather in the glorious name of Christ
and honor the glorious Lord . As for those who preach falsehoods we dont partake in that .
You mean - you disobey Him.

Show me where the Bible states that you should splinter from Christ's Church when you "disagree".
Chapter and Verse
, please . . .
 

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None, be ause that's totally irrelevant.
It's as foolish a question as asking me if he mentioned that he like spaghetti in his address.

One thing has nothing to do with the other, Einstein . . .
You said "assassinations". I didn't. If it's irrelevant, why did you include it?

What have you got against spaghetti?
 
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Time for a History Lesson . . .

The Synod of Rome (382) is where the canon was first formally identified – ALL 73 (not 66) Books.

- 11 years after that, it was confirmed at the Synod of Hippo (393).
- 4 years later, at the Council (or Synod) of Carthage (397), it was yet again confirmed. The bishops wrote at the end of their document, "But let Church beyond sea (Rome) be consulted about confirming this canon". There were 44 bishops, including St. Augustine who signed the document.
- 7 years later, in 405, in a letter from Pope Innocent I to Exsuperius, Bishop of Toulouse, he reiterated the canon.
- 14 years after that, at the 2nd Council (Synod) of Carthage (419) the canon was again formally confirmed.

The Canon of Scripture was officially closed at the Council of Trent in the 16th century because of the perversions happening within Protestantism and the random editing and deleting of books from the Canon.

Them's the historical facts, Einstein . . .
Origen beat you to it, identifying the NT canon a century before Rome did.

Origen circa 250 AD:

But when our Lord Jesus Christ comes, whose arrival that prior son of Nun designated, he sends priests, his apostles, bearing “trumpets hammered thin,” the magnificent and heavenly instruction of proclamation. Matthew first sounded the priestly trumpet in his Gospel; Mark also; Luke and John each played their own priestly trumpets. Even Peter cries out with trumpets in two of his epistles; also James and Jude. In addition, John also sounds the trumpet through his epistles [and Revelation], and Luke, as he describes the Acts of the Apostles. And now that last one comes, the one who said, “I think God displays us apostles last,” and in fourteen of his epistles, thundering with trumpets, he casts down the walls of Jericho and all the devices of idolatry and dogmas of philosophers, all the way to the foundations (Hom. Jos. 7.1).

Total = 27
 
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Anotheer idiotic statement - born in utter ignorance of history.
Time to take YOU out to the historical woodshed . . .

900
years BEFORE the Protestant Revolt, we have the first English translations of Scripture.
In a 7th century English monastery, a scribed named Caedmon translated Genesis, Exodus and portions of the New Testament. His contemporary, Bede translated the Gospel of John.

The Catholic Douai-Rheims English translation of the New Testament portion was published in Reims, France, in 1582, The Old Testament portion was published 27 years later in 1609 and 1610 by the University of Douai.

The Protestant KJV wasn’t published until 1611.
So much for your anti-Catholic nonsense . . .
John Wycliffe's English Bible was published in 1388, almost two centuries before the Douay-Rheims.

Wycliffe is recognized by true Protestants as the Morning Star of the Reformation.

In a compelling demonstration of intelligence and conduct, the apostate papacy exhumed and burned his bones.

But that didn't stop John.

Thank God for John Wycliffe and the Reformation.
 
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You mean - you disobey Him.

Show me where the Bible states that you should splinter from Christ's Church when you "disagree".
Chapter and Verse
, please . . .
Roman Catholicism has been a historical evil of persecution, try studying the inquisition in torture and death of the innocent

Your Pope Francis supports homosexuality in same sex unions, as you have been shown several

The true Church of Jesus Christ is found outside of Roman Catholicism and its evils

Jesus Is The Lord

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Catholic leaders condemn Pope Francis’ endorsement of same-sex unions​

October 23, 2020 12:56pm

“Homosexuals have a right to be a part of the family. They’re children of God and have a right to a family,” Francis says.
 
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John Wycliffe's English Bible was published in 1388, almost two centuries before the Douay-Rheims.

Wycliffe is recognized by true Protestants as the Morning Star of the Reformation.

In a compelling demonstration of intelligence and conduct, the apostate papacy exhumed and burned his bones.

But that didn't stop John.

Thank God for John Wycliffe and the Reformation.
Amen!

Jesus Is The Lord!
 

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You mean - you disobey Him.

Show me where the Bible states that you should splinter from Christ's Church when you "disagree".
Chapter and Verse
, please . . .
The Whole lump has been leavened . Despite the many warnings and corrections , that place never repented
but grew worse and worse . The true church of Christ has not fellowship under false leaders .
Its tough enough to find a faithful bishop or deacon within the protestant realm that still clings to truth .
When the leaders of said place wont repent , one has no choice but to leave .
It would be one thing if the leaders taught truth . THEN of course one could remain and help to correct other members .
But when the leadership is tanked , One has no choice but to leave any place , IF said leaders wont repent .
And my advice would be , take any and all that you can with you when you do leave it .
No church is perfect , but IF THE LEADERSHIP is tanked , all who sit under it will too .
We cannot be yoked together with the table of Christ and of belial .
WHEREFORE COME YE OUT from amongst them , touch not the unclean thing .
Would you have me sit under the JWS . I mean they say THEY ARE THE CHURCH .
SO should i just sit under them cause they make the claim they are .
OR how about the mormons , they say NO we the church . SO should i jus say okay its says its the CHURCH
and sit under it . NOPE . SO too with the CC , it makes many a claim to be THE CHURCH
and yet its popes rode you all for a ride and a journey that has taken folks far from the narrow path
and onto the BROAD WAY .
 
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