22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

[Spiritual Israelite]

Why do you keep calling God's Word a wrong desire?

He did no such thing. Stop lying.

You are attacking God's Word not an interpretation.

He is doing no such thing. Do you think lying like this does anything to support your case?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

"You have been clearly answered"

No, I have not. You can't even bring yourself to answer yes or no to a simple question. Why is that?

and you don't dictate my response in forums, just as the Pharisees didn't dictate the response of Jesus Christ

Are you calling me a Pharisee and equating yourself with Jesus Christ? That's how this comes across.

 

[WPM]

But, you can't even tell me what that purpose is. How can I possibly take you seriously when you can't even tell me what the purpose of these supposed future animal sacrifices would be? You have speculated on it, but you can't show me anything in scripture to back up your speculations.

So many words, but no scripture. Why are you not understanding that giving me your opinions without providing any scriptural support is meaningless to me?

If you want to show me truth, show me the scripture which teaches it. Instead, all I see are your words and no scripture.

This is a pattern, and a concerning one at that. Every genuine Premil should be supporting us here, but alas none are.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Were they taken to China and Australia? What about the Americas?

Are you being purposely ridiculous? They were taken captive to all nations that existed at the time back then. Why do you ask?

 

[covenantee]

First of all, bear in mind that the epistle is called "to the Hebrews." The subject matter pertains to issues unique to the Hebrew people. Some of the epistle has universal application, but not all of it. Hebrews 8:10, for instance, applies to Israel and hasn't been fulfilled yet.

You didn't answer the question.

Hebrews 8:6
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Did God have the right to change His Will and Testament?

Still no answer. What's the problem?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I tried to explain this but probably did a poor job. The Church can escape all these things that will come to pass. The Church will not be here when the 70th week of Daniel commences. The Church will already be in heaven before the seals are opened. See Rev 4 and 5. After the fulness of the Gentiles comes in part of Israel will have its blindness removed. The twelve tribes across the earth the seed of the woman will be here during the seals which includes the beginning of sorrows (The four horsemen of the Apocalypse), the great tribulation and the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. THEY will see "all these things" that will come to pass.

Well, this wasn't very helpful. Again, the things that Jesus was talking about escaping were the things that would literally come upon the entire earth. And He was particularly talking about the things that would happen on "that day" which referred to the day of His second coming and the day that "heaven and earth will pass away". The same day Paul wrote about in 1 Thess 5:2-3 and Peter wrote about in 2 Peter 3:10-12. The only time we'd need to be taken off of the earth to escape is that day because it will involve the entire earth being burned up, as Peter taught.

He certainly WAS talking the destruction of the Temple buildings in the future. The Temple that will be destroyed is the future Temple that Antichrist will declare himself God. The Jews just recently received 5 flawless red heifers that are used for purification. As to most people thinking that the Temple in question has already been destroyed, what sign was there when these things shall be? And then why in Matthew is the sign of His coming and the end of the age merged into when will these things be?

Luke 21
6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?

Matthew 24

2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

You're taking things completely out of context here. In Luke 21:6 and Matthew 24:2 Jesus was talking about the temple buildings standing at that time that the disciples had been talking about and marveling at. So, the context of their question "when shall these things be?" is in terms of when the temple buildings standing at that time would be destroyed.

What you and other futurists, as well as preterists, don't recognize is that Jesus was asked two different questions there. One had to do with when the temple buildings standing at that time would be destroyed and the other has to do with His future second coming at the end of the age. He talked about both events in the Olivet Discourse.

No. There was no mention of the thing in 2 Peter 3. Jesus gives a list of the things that we can escape. That includes the destruction of the new Temple, the beginning of sorrows, which are the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse, and the great tribulation.

You're not looking at the context of what He was talking about.

Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. 34 “Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. 35 For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth. 36 Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”

What Jesus was talking about here were things that would "come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth". THAT is what He was saying that we should pray to escape. What Peter wrote about in 2 Peter 3:10-12 clearly will come down on all those who live on the earth, so I see no reason to think that 2 Peter 3:10-12 doesn't relate to what Jesus was talking about in Luke 21:33-36.

The fact that there are few that understand that there are two raptures does not change the fact that there is.

Fact? Anyone calling what is clearly an OPINION a fact can't be taken seriously. If you are too prideful to even acknowledge when you are stating an opinion then no one has any reason to take you seriously. Scripture teaches that Jesus will appear a second time (Heb 9:28) but never teaches that He will also appear a third time. Scripture teaches that He will descend from heaven in the same manner that He ascended to heaven (Acts 1:9-11), but never teaches that He will then again ascend to heaven and later descend from heaven again. Honestly, that belief is utterly ludicrous and can't remotely be supported by scripture.

Most don't understand the order of Revelation, so how could they possibly understand that there are two raptures. One rapture is before the 70th week of Daniel and the other occurs at the 6th seal.

The 70th week of Daniel ended long ago, so there can't be a future rapture before the 70th week of Daniel.

You seem like a smart guy. How is possible that you would believe this? You have to be wiser than that.

Do you understand that discerning the meaning of scripture is not based on intelligence? There are people who the world would say are very lacking in intelligence, yet they understand scripture far better than people have very high IQs. Spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit is what matters, not one's level of intelligence. You should know that. But, here you are acting as if one's level of intelligence has something to do with being able to interpret scripture. You should know better than that.

Who do you think the Christians without oil in their lamps are?

They are not Christians at all. This illustrates your own lack of wisdom. Look at what Jesus said about the ones without oil in their lamps.

Matthew 25:11 “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’ 12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’

If they were Christians then why does it indicate that He will say that He does not know them? You can't be a Christian and have Jesus say He doesn't know you. A Christian is someone who has a personal spiritual relationship with Jesus Christ. He would never say that He doesn't know a Christian.

Do you think it is those that are watching and waiting for the bridegroom to come as instructed or those that think that they know when He will come and think He will come at the 7th trumpet only?
And few do. You would need to understand the order of Revelation to understand it. You would need to know that the coming of Jesus for the harvest in Revelation 14 is the coming of Jesus at the sixth seal.

Those unbelievers are that go to a place of protection are the WOMAN, the Jews in Israel, that flee to a place of protection.

Matthew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Revelation 12
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

The bottom line. The Church can escape "all these things" and will be in heaven before the 70th week of Daniel. After the fulness of the Gentiles comes in, part of Israel, of the 12 tribes across the earth, will have its eyes opened. They will "see all these things" that will come to pass and when Jesus comes for the harvest at the 6th seal they will join the Church for the marriage supper of the lamb in heaven. Jacob had two brides. Leah was first but he had to work 7 more years for His beloved Rachel.

You really need to think about this. Of the ten virgins, there are five with oil and 5 without. Who do you think has oil. Those watching and waiting as instructed for the return of the bridegroom, or those that think they know when He will come at the 7th trumpet?

I believe you are the one who really needs to think about this. As of now, your belief is far from the truth. It's so convoluted that I don't even know where to begin to address what you said here. It's clearly not worth it, anyway, since our views are so far apart.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Another excellent post!
The Prophetic Word is clear. There will be a new Temple and we will make offerings to God in it.

What will be the purpose of these supposed offerings made in this supposed new temple?

 

[covenantee]

This is a pattern, and a concerning one at that. Every genuine Premil should be supporting us here, but alas none are.

Sadly, bro, I think it confirms that the vast majority of premils have been, to borrow your term, dispensatanized.

That is the case with the vast majority of premils that I know.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Thanks for describing the here and now.

Now moving on to the Second Coming and the Millennium Kingdom. Do you have any verses that do not apply to now, but do address the future Millennium?

You're asking an Amil who doesn't believe in a future Millennium (as no Amils do) if he has any verses that address the future Millennium. LOL.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Anyone born after 70AD will naturally conclude that God is done with Israel. Anyone born after 1949, won't necessarily have that bias.

Are you saying that you believe that God was done temporarily with Israel from 70 AD to 1948? The fact of the matter is that God was never done with Israel, not even temporarily.

Romans 11:1 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel:

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Then explain what happened on the Mount of Transfiguration?

Jesus gave His disciples a foretaste or glimpse of what was going to happen in the future. That is all it was. He was not permanently transfigured there. It was a foreshadowing of His future glorification.

You were shown a verse where Jesus Himself said He was not yet glorified at that point (John 7:39). Can't you just accept that? You want to instead ignore that verse and still try to keep your false belief alive?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So, where in the New Testament does it say that the theocratic favor that went with the old covenant will be restored? Where does it say the animal sacrifices will be restored in the future? Can I remind you? We are now in the New Testament time. The old covenant is gone forever.

This is just unbelievable, bro. Why did God bother replacing the old covenant with the new covenant if He was just going to restore the old covenant again in the future?

Why can't people who believe in this nonsense understand how insulting it is to believe that animal sacrifices will be reinstated in the future? It implies that Jesus Christ's sacrifice was only sufficient temporarily rather than for all time. But, when we point this out they then say that the sacrifices won't be for the atonement of sins but will be for some other purpose even though Ezekiel 45:15-17 indicates they would be for the atonement of sins. So, we ask what other purpose they would serve and they can't answer that. And we're supposed to take them seriously? I don't think so.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

First of all, bear in mind that the epistle is called "to the Hebrews." The subject matter pertains to issues unique to the Hebrew people. Some of the epistle has universal application, but not all of it. Hebrews 8:10, for instance, applies to Israel and hasn't been fulfilled yet.

Hebrews 8:6-13, including verse 10, all relates to the new covenant. So, you're saying the new covenant hasn't been fulfilled (established, placed into effect) yet?

Hebrews 8:10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.

Do you not understand that when the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in people God puts His laws in their minds and hearts? This verse is about the new covenant and that was established long ago by the blood of Christ. How can you say this is not yet fulfilled?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So, basically you reject and erase from your Bible scriptures like: Isaiah 56:6-7, Jeremiah 33:14-18, Ezekiel 40 to 48, and in Daniel 9:27, an end times prophecy, it says that the sacrifices will be stopped by the leader of the ungodly peoples.

Interpreting scriptures differently than you is not a case of rejecting and erasing those scriptures. We reject your false interpretations of those scriptures, not the scriptures themselves.

Yes; the sacrifice of Jesus IS enough for us now, we can be confident that our acceptance of His sacrifice does atone for our sins.
Also the scriptures which say God does not want sacrifices, apply to this Christian era, not forever.

So, you're saying His sacrifice is enough for us now, but at some point it won't be enough?!

We will soon see just who it is that is ridiculous and heretical.

We can already see that is you.

 

[Truth7t7]

The 70th week of Daniel ended long ago, so there can't be a future rapture before the 70th week of Daniel.

Do you understand that discerning the meaning of scripture is not based on intelligence? There are people who the world would say are very lacking in intelligence, yet they understand scripture far better than people have very high IQs. Spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit is what matters, not one's level of intelligence. You should know that. But, here you are acting as if one's level of intelligence has something to do with being able to interpret scripture. You should know better than that.

They are not Christians at all. This illustrates your own lack of wisdom. Look at what Jesus said about the ones without oil in their lamps.

Matthew 25:11 “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’ 12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’

If they were Christians then why does it indicate that He will say that He does not know them? You can't be a Christian and have Jesus say He doesn't know you. A Christian is someone who has a personal spiritual relationship with Jesus Christ. He would never say that He doesn't know a Christian.

I believe you are the one who really needs to think about this. As of now, your belief is far from the truth. It's so convoluted that I don't even know where to begin to address what you said here. It's clearly not worth it, anyway, since our views are so far apart.

Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal "Future" Weeks Explained?

Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days.

If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written

(Four Hundred Ninety Years)

Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as seen below.

Daniel 6:1KJV
It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;

Daniel 8:14KJV
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Daniel 12:11KJV
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Below in Daniel 10:2-3 we see just another example of Daniel's literal weeks, as Daniel mourned and fasted for 3 literal weeks or 21 days.

Daniel 10:2-3KJV
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.

Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal "Future" weeks or 490 days.

When the "Future" call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period in preparing to build.

62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the armies surrounding Jerusalem, this stops the building.

The 70th literal week will see (The Antichrist) revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.

Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[Truth7t7]

The 70th week of Daniel ended long ago, so there can't be a future rapture before the 70th week of Daniel.

Do you understand that discerning the meaning of scripture is not based on intelligence? There are people who the world would say are very lacking in intelligence, yet they understand scripture far better than people have very high IQs. Spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit is what matters, not one's level of intelligence. You should know that. But, here you are acting as if one's level of intelligence has something to do with being able to interpret scripture. You should know better than that.

They are not Christians at all. This illustrates your own lack of wisdom. Look at what Jesus said about the ones without oil in their lamps.

Matthew 25:11 “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’ 12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’

If they were Christians then why does it indicate that He will say that He does not know them? You can't be a Christian and have Jesus say He doesn't know you. A Christian is someone who has a personal spiritual relationship with Jesus Christ. He would never say that He doesn't know a Christian.

I believe you are the one who really needs to think about this. As of now, your belief is far from the truth. It's so convoluted that I don't even know where to begin to address what you said here. It's clearly not worth it, anyway, since our views are so far apart.

Daniel's (Little Horn), Paul's (Man Of Sin), And John's (The Beast) A Literal Human Man,, That Will Be Present On This Earth At The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ

The figure mentioned above will be a "Future" literal human man, and he will be present on earth in a living human body to witness the "Future" second coming and final judgment as scripture clearly teaches below

Daniel's (Little Horn) Present On Earth At The Second Coming

Daniel 7:8-11KJV
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Paul's (Man Of Sin) Present On Earth At The Second Coming

2 Thessalonians 2:3-8KJV
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

John's (The Beast) Present On Earth At The Second Coming

Revelation 19:19-20KJV
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal "Future" Weeks Explained?

Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days.

If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written

(Four Hundred Ninety Years)

Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as seen below.

Daniel 6:1KJV
It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;

Daniel 8:14KJV
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Daniel 12:11KJV
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Below in Daniel 10:2-3 we see just another example of Daniel's literal weeks, as Daniel mourned and fasted for 3 literal weeks or 21 days.

Daniel 10:2-3KJV
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.

Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal "Future" weeks or 490 days.

When the "Future" call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period in preparing to build.

62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the armies surrounding Jerusalem, this stops the building.

The 70th literal week will see (The Antichrist) revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.

Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Any time someone has a belief all to themselves that raises a red flag. I can't take this view seriously. Just because Daniel might have normally used literal numbers doesn't mean the 70 weeks have to refer to literal days. The commandment to restore and build Jerusalem was the start of the 70 weeks and that happened long ago. So, your interpretation of the 70 weeks as literal days instead of weeks of years makes no sense.

 

[Truth7t7]

Any time someone has a belief all to themselves that raises a red flag. I can't take this view seriously. Just because Daniel might have normally used literal numbers doesn't mean the 70 weeks have to refer to literal days. The commandment to restore and build Jerusalem was the start of the 70 weeks and that happened long ago. So, your interpretation of the 70 weeks as literal days instead of weeks of years makes no sense.

As you have been shown, Daniel's 70 weeks are literal days or 490 "Future" days

The 70 weeks will start with a "Future" command to build the wall and street in Jerusalem, in the 70th week John's (The Beast) will be revealed to the world proclaiming to be God Messiah on earth, at this point the 3.5 year tribulation starts

Of course you deny these "Future" events, as you are "Preterist" in your eschatology, believing and teaching Matthew 24:15 (Daniel's AOD) and Matthew 24:21 (The Great Tribulation) have already been fulfilled

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

As you have been shown, Daniel's 70 weeks are literal days or 490 "Future" days

Yes, you have shown me your false interpretation of Daniel's 70 weeks. No need to do so ever again since it can't be taken seriously.

You are in a group with the likes of Keras, Timtofly and others who have some views all to themselves. That raises major red flags. God doesn't reveal truth to just one person.

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes, you have shown me your false interpretation of Daniel's 70 weeks. No need to do so ever again since it can't be taken seriously.

You are in a group with the likes of Keras, Timtofly and others who have some views all to themselves. That raises major red flags. God doesn't reveal truth to just one person.

If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written

(Four Hundred Ninety Years)

Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology

Daniel's AOD is future, and the bad guy causing the Abomination and Desolation will be present on earth to the "Consummation" Ultimate End

"Future" Events Unfulfilled

This "Future" figure will be present on earth making (Abomination & Desolation) to the (Consummation) or (The Ultimate End) "Future" Event(s) Unfulfilled

(The Future Consummation)

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Merriam-Webster
Definition of consummation

1: the act of consummating the consummation of a contract by mutual signature specifically : the consummating of a marriage
2: the ultimate end

Daniel's AOD (Even Until The Consummation) "Future"!

Daniel 9:27KJV
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.