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theefaith

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None of that cancels out what Jesus said about him building his church by the same means in which Peter came to know the truth of who Jesus was.

You're just looking at it all wrong, all through the eyes of men who did not hear what the Spirit said to the churches.

churches? There is only one Jn 10:16


You CANNOT give the keys (jurisdictional authority) to a confession but to a person! Peter
Vs 19 I give unto thee (Peter) thou shalt bind (Peter) thou shalt loose (Peter)
 

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And your point is?

not anti-woman

Behold thy mother!

What does Behold in scripture mean?

A marvelous thing!
A miraculous action!
A wonder!
An awe inspiring declaration!

Behold thy mother!

John 19:26-27
When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith has he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

Jesus is not asking John to care for His Mary, if so He would have said so, he is not even speaking to John, scripture says He is addressing the disciple, therefore it applies to all disciples.

Jesus is making Mary spiritual mother to all disciples! And all disciples take Her into thier home, And if the apostle John needs a spiritual mother so do we!

What is the family of God without a mother? The mother is the heart of the family! Jesus said I will not leave you orphans! Jn 14:18 He gave Mary to be the mother of one disciple then He does so for all disciples!

As eve was the mother of all the living in the first creation, gen 3:20 so Mary is the mother of all those who live in Christ and the new creation! Behold, I make all things new!

Rev 12:17 our spiritual mother!

Rachel is spiritual mother of Israel!
A type of Mary as spiritual mother of Christians!

The 12 sons of Jacob have 4 biological mothers, but Rachel is the spiritual mother of all Israel!

Matt 2:18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are no more.




Blessed Mary ever Virgin mother of God!

Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit!

Lk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

John sanctified in the womb!

Lk 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

Lk 1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Zacharias is filled with the Holy Spirit and prophecy!

Lk 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

The wedding couple have wine and not shame!

Jn 2: 10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

The disciples are supplied with faith, hope, and charity!

11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

All these blessings from God because of Mary most holy!
 

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churches? There is only one Jn 10:16


You CANNOT give the keys (jurisdictional authority) to a confession but to a person! Peter
Vs 19 I give unto thee (Peter) thou shalt bind (Peter) thou shalt loose (Peter)
That is only the smaller part. But you have left out the greater part, which is the Father's part.

PS,
The "keys" (to the kingdom) WAS given, which Jesus explained was how He would build His church-- But you apparently have not received it.
 
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I guess the truth does not matter to RCC.

mare you gonna reply these too?

Adoration is due to God alone!

Matt 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

Only God can work miracles

Matthew 8:27
But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!


Jn 1:23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias. (Jesus is Lord)

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Matt 5: 21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Only God have the commandments only God can change them!

Matthew 8:26
And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.

Only God has this power!

Matt 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,

2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.

Only God!

John 11:25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Only God can be this!

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Only God!
 

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And are outside the church and the new covenant
Nothing more than sects and heretics
If only we could kiss an antichrist book, affirm DAMNABLE heresy of "you can go to heaven by Torah" and be accursed according to Paul Galatians 1:6-9. Then we'd be in the faith! "Well, that's only PART of the Church"--oh so what happened to the boast that you "all say the same thing"?
 

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If only we could kiss an antichrist book, affirm DAMNABLE heresy of "you can go to heaven by Torah" and be accursed according to Paul Galatians 1:6-9. Then we'd be in the faith! "Well, that's only PART of the Church"--oh so what happened to the boast that you "all say the same thing"?

gal 1 that applies to luther and the so called reformation
 

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gal 1 that applies to luther and the so called reformation
You don't have a clue. The Epistle to the Galatians dealt with the Judaizing heresy.
Sorta like your Bishop (whom you already stated was false--no reason to defend him) telling Shapiro he can be justified by the works of the Law.
 

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mod course they are men, have fallen human nature and are not impeccable but through is all Christ brings his spotless bride, they actually increase our faith in Christ and His word
The church must be of divine origin or it could never have survived 2000 yrs under such men, but as to teaching the universal church cannot teach error Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13 and is still the one true church Jn 10:16 the successors still have the authority of Jesus Christ Matt 28:18-20 matt 16:18 matt 18:18 Jn 20:21-23

Sooo who was running the church while these men were doing their evil deeds ,let me guess the cardinals ?

evil popes increase the faith, interesting
 

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An outward sign

it’s not a bible study but a covenant
A sacrament is not a signal event to establish a covenant. It is supposed that a sacrament is a physical means to a spiritual grace. The question is this. What does God want me to do in order to receive a spiritual blessing from him? Essentially, the question is, what set of behaviors, once having been performed, will induce the deity to bless?

This line of thinking is very similar to the techniques associated with magic. What rituals or actions must be performed that can subdue or manipulate supernatural beings and forces?

Catholics call their magic "the sacraments."
 

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What does Behold in scripture mean?

A marvelous thing!
A miraculous action!
A wonder!
An awe inspiring declaration!
No, it means "look". Jesus is dying on the cross and he wants John to take care of his mother. He isn't saying, "she how great a woman is my mother!

Goddess worship is another pagan idea Catholics adopted.
 

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Have you then decided that Luther, a man not here to defend himself against your words, is guilty of something unforgivable by God?

not unforgivable he had time to repent

he demanded the church have a council to decide these matters and the holy apostolic council of Trent condemned his heresy
 

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So, there IS scriptural support for Luther and the Reformation. Why do you call it so called?

The Reformed church jettisoned the heavy yolk of Roman corruption.

Luther “Faith alone” is another gospel

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

latter times 1500 yrs after christ
 

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So, there IS scriptural support for Luther and the Reformation. Why do you call it so called?

The Reformed church jettisoned the heavy yolk of Roman corruption.

you cannot jettison God’s church and his revelation
 

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You don't have a clue. The Epistle to the Galatians dealt with the Judaizing heresy.
Sorta like your Bishop (whom you already stated was false--no reason to defend him) telling Shapiro he can be justified by the works of the Law.

Luther “Faith alone” is another gospel

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

latter times 1500 yrs after christ
 

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Luther “Faith alone” is another gospel

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

latter times 1500 yrs after christ

No. The RCC was corrupted much sooner. 1 Tim 4:1 certainly applies to the corrupted RCC.
 

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Sooo who was running the church while these men were doing their evil deeds ,let me guess the cardinals ?

evil popes increase the faith, interesting

No the valid faithful bishops

Jude 1: 17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

The holy church does not usurp Christ’s authority, the holy church establishes it throughout the whole world, and thru all time!

The holy apostles do not usurp Christ’s kingdom, the apostles administer the kingdom for Christ who ascended to heaven!

Ephesians 3:21
Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

Ephesians 5:24
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ...
 

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A sacrament is not a signal event to establish a covenant. It is supposed that a sacrament is a physical means to a spiritual grace. The question is this. What does God want me to do in order to receive a spiritual blessing from him? Essentially, the question is, what set of behaviors, once having been performed, will induce the deity to bless?

This line of thinking is very similar to the techniques associated with magic. What rituals or actions must be performed that can subdue or manipulate supernatural beings and forces?

Catholics call their magic "the sacraments."

Faith and baptism is the initiation ritual for the new covenant
Mk 16:16 acts 8