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theefaith

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Look at Bishop Barron "guiding" Ben Shapiro--into hell fire.

Oh thanks for teaching me the eternal faith Bishop it's so nice here in hell where the eternal faith led me!

I’ve seen no evidence that he is a valid bishop, his modernist heresy puts him outside the church anyway
 

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Teach us Pachamama worship! That's what we really need to know--the eternal "faith"! DAMNABLE heresy!

agreed that’s the modernist counterfeit church not teaching the ancient faith of the apostles acts 2:42 Jude 1:17 Lk 1:77
 

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I’ve seen no evidence that he is a valid bishop, his modernist heresy puts him outside the church anyway
Interesting YOU see no evidence... but your system has promoted him literally to a Bishop. Why haven't any of them "seen" what you see? Where's the vaunted guidance of the Spirit when you really need it? No, instead, you get a Bishop who will lead Jews to hell and Catholics into doctrinal error. A Pope that blesses idolatry. Go back to hell with that, where it came from, Catholic Church.
 

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That's reasonable, but Jude never said he lived 1 Enoch--he just quoted a traditional prophecy of Enoch that happened to have been recorded in 1 Enoch. It's certainly fair game to investigate it, and to find value in it.

I think our difference is that I believe God certified, in his call to certain men, certain letters or books as worthy of keeping both for devotional and for instructional purposes, set apart as more critical than other works precisely because they represent foundational materials, upon which the Church was based. Christianity has been based upon the Law and the Abrahamic Covenant, as well as upon the teaching of Christ, as conveyed to us through those close enough to him to properly represent it. To me, that's what makes Scriptures "Scripture." It has its own intrinsic value, as opposed to other Christian works that also have great spiritual value.
Have you noticed how you say things without knowing their veracity? "He just quoted from a traditional prophecy". You don't know that. This would be where "investigation" would come in. Not that I even think it's necessary per se--you don't even need to know the Bible very well to know God. Knowing God is eternal life not knowing the Bible. And in reading many books is weariness of the flesh. People need to know God by the Spirit and serve Him by the Spirit.
 

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Tell me about the holy faith--Quran kissing, Pachamama blessing, and Jew affirming. That's your holy faith guys--remember it!

none of the counterfeit or imposters are part of thee faith! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3
Not in the apostles creed acts 2:42 Jude 1:17
 

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You said the fact that it had been around for so long was the proof not anything about Scripture. And since when did you love Scripture? Only when you think it serves your purposes.
Despite sinful men God’s grace prevailed
Where sin abounds, grace abounds more
 

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LOL So says you... but he's a Bishop! Interesting. Now all of a sudden you believe in an invisible Church?

no but there are valid bishops who teach the truth revealed by Christ to his apostles Jude 1:17


Matt 5:14
Ye (the apostles/ the church) are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
(There is only one church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles and their successors!) matt 16:18 Jn 10:16 eph 2:20
 

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no but there are valid bishops who teach the truth revealed by Christ to his apostles Jude 1:17


Matt 5:14
Ye (the apostles/ the church) are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
(There is only one church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles and their successors!) matt 16:18 Jn 10:16 eph 2:20
Well it says false teachings spread like gangrene. Why haven't they been defrocked? Where the vaunted guidance of the Spirit? Would Paul have put up with them?! No! Isn't your boast that all Catholics say the same thing? Now you're saying you don't have that? Well that's the final straw I'm not converting to cstholicism! lol!
 

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Interesting YOU see no evidence... but your system has promoted him literally to a Bishop. Why haven't any of them "seen" what you see? Where's the vaunted guidance of the Spirit when you really need it? No, instead, you get a Bishop who will lead Jews to hell and Catholics into doctrinal error. A Pope that blesses idolatry. Go back to hell with that, where it came from, Catholic Church.

no evidence that this one is a valid pope, Pius 12 was last I can verify
Everything taught since then is in question and probably the great apostasy

try reading the great popes teaching
Pius 9, 10, 11 etc.
Gregory 16 on condemning Bible societies is good one
Inter praecipuas
 

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no evidence that this one is a valid pope, Pius 12 was last I can verify
Everything taught since then is in question and probably the great apostasy

try reading the great popes teaching
Pius 9, 10, 11 etc.
Gregory 16 on condemning Bible societies is good one
Inter praecipuas
I'll go one further : I reject ALL your Popes and ALL your pronouncements! There that's better!
 
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LOL So you're Protesting against the Church correct?

that’s not the church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles
Prophecy of our lady of la salette
Rome with lose the faith!
Our lady of Fatima
Only Portugal shall preserve the dogma of the faith!
 

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that’s not the church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles
Prophecy of our lady of la salette
Rome with lose the faith!
Our lady of Fatima
Only Portugal shall preserve the dogma of the faith!
Also, it doesn't matter if someone prophesies and it comes true. It proves nothing. You are unaware of that because you despise God's Word. Go read Deuteronomy 13. God intentionally gives power to false prophets so as to test us to see if we love Him. How can we know if they're false? They lead us away from His Word!
Oh so you mean I'm supposed to follow the Word? Oh just like Paul said and did and taught us it makes us wise unto salvation through faith in Christ?

Get a new job. Get a new faith. Stop looking to paganism mixed with Christianity (Rome).
 

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Also, it doesn't matter if someone prophesies and it comes true. It proves nothing. You are unaware of that because you despise God's Word. Go read Deuteronomy 13. God intentionally gives power to false prophets so as to test us to see if we love Him. How can we know if they're false? They lead us away from His Word!
Oh so you mean I'm supposed to follow the Word? Oh just like Paul said and did and taught us it makes us wise unto salvation through faith in Christ?

Get a new job. Get a new faith. Stop looking to paganism mixed with Christianity (Rome).
@theefaith And actually look now Rome has come full circle and is returning to her demonic pagan roots in its blessing of idolatry and antichrist religion (Judaism and Islam). Makes perfect sense. You were born of paganism and to paganism you lead. THIS is nothing but the LOGICAL conclusion of your pagan religion.