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Because their consciences were defiledWhy did they suddenly realize that they were naked, when they had been naked all along?
They experienced shame from sinWhat did their nakedness mean now that they knew what evil was?
The Hebrew yada (know) signifies to know by observation or experimentally. In Genesis 4:1 this is associated with the sexual act. Adam and Eve became conscious of their nakedness as never before, and sexual desire became aggravated. This led to a state of self-consciousness and shame which is a reaction to sin. A sinner becomes self-conscious, whereas he should be God-conscious. The eyes of Adam and Eve were now full of themselves, whereas previously they were more conscious of God.Why did they try to cover only their reproductive parts? What was sinful about them?
In Scripture, "nakedness" is symbolic of a state of sin. You can see this in Rev. 3:17; 16:15. It is recorded of Ahaz that "he made Judah
naked, and transgressed sore against Yahweh" 2Chron. 28:19.
Many places in the Scripture teach this!
Why did God provide long garments of skin, and where does it say that God killed animals to provide them. Why could he not have simply provided the clothing like the angels did when they appeared to man in human form?
Are you suggesting an animal can be skinned and still remain alive?
It's clear from this question you do not understand the nature of "a covering"Where does it say that God sacrificed animals for them to be forgiven?
You need to think about this further with the whole Scripture in mind.
I find it difficult to comprehend you dont believe the angles instructed the first pair now that sin had entered the world. Further more, you must believe their coverings were forcibly removed and then covered.There is not a single statement of remorse from either of them because there was no basis upon which to forgive them.
Does your God work that way with sin? I know JW's and this is not consistent with your teaching.
Not only for him, but all his posterity which is the whole point of the law of sin and death (dominion) which God removed in His sonAdam was told what death would mean for them….they would return to the ground out of which they were created. (Gen 3:17-19) There is no mention of forgiveness, or of an afterlife of any kind.
I'm curious, whether you understand the terms of the Covenant? From what you have written so far, I don't believe so.They accepted the fact that God meant what he said…evicted from their paradise home, they came to realize that God had abandoned them to largely reap what they had sown (in more ways than one)…..old age, sickness and death would now overtake them, but not until they experienced what death meant when their firstborn murdered his brother. Death had been seen in the animal kingdom, but no human had yet died until then.
God did not abandon their children however…..those who were plunged into this situation through no fault on their part. He implemented a solution right there in Eden. (Gen 3:15)
You now know it was confirmed with an animal sacrifice, and a covering, but do you understand what God was planning for the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent? Do you know of the two lines in the earth?
How would God reverse the dominion which had now been lost through sin?
What did it mean that “the Lamb was slain from the founding of the world”? There was no mention of anything like that until after sin had entered into the human race……So the “founding of the world” was not the creation of the planet, but the beginning of sinful human existence after the fall. All of humanity was now tainted with the sin introduced into their DNA, and which would result in death. It was “the world of mankind” (kosmos) that needed saving, not the planet which was part of God’s flawless creation.
In the mind of God His Son (lamb) was slain meaning God foreknew sin would enter the World - I hope you dont believe Eden was plan A and Christ was plan B!
NO! Christ was in the mind of God well before the creation of this age.
Christ was always Plan A
I'm not sure what your are trying to prove with your above statement and how that relates to God's treatment of A&E in the garden.“For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.”
Are the “all” in both instances, the same?
They cannot be…because the “all” pertaining to Adam, meant every single human being……but the “all” who will “in Christ” will be “made alive” are not all of humanity but only those who accept his kingship and follow his teachings. The lake of fire (everlasting destruction) is reserved for those who “do not know God“ because they don’t want to….and those who purport to know God but who “do not obey” the teachings of his son.…as Paul says…
“But you who suffer tribulation will be given relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance on those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. 9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength, 10 at the time when he comes to be glorified in connection with his holy ones and to be regarded in that day with wonder among all those who exercised faith, because the witness we gave met with faith among you.” (2 Thess 1:7-10).
To be honest Jane I was hoping for you to deal with the principles of How God deals with sin and how the terms of the Covenant are given in Genesis 3:15 and then ratified with a sacrifice and covering in Genesis 3:20-22.
I think you can see the truth of what is being shown you, but you are being held back possibly because of your previously held position.
If you honestly believe A&E were NOT taught how to kill an animal and takes its skin, and make an offering to the Lord, then you would also struggle to understand the story of their children (Cain & Abel), of Abraham and the parting of animals and so on.
I know you from all that you have written in this forum and I know you will apply these things privately and study them for yourself.
BTW thanks for replying...means a lot
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