Who Knows the God of Jesus?

[Eternally Grateful]

He said he was taught by God.
He said he was sent by God.
He said he would be resurrected by God.
Hew said he would RETURN to God.
He said he was given all authority and power by God.

But the Churches teach he himself is God?

WHY?

John 1
Gen 1 God (plural)
Gen 3
Gen 4
Is 48
Is 63
John 17
John 20
Matt 22
Hebrews 1
Hebrews 2
Col 1

I am sure I can find so much more

 

[Eternally Grateful]

They ban me from what Christ said??????
Where?

Christ said before abraham was, He always existed
Christ told Thomas he was blessed when Thomas called him God

 

[Jack]

JW's are not interested in what the Bible says, only what Kingdom Hall says the Bible says.

 

[quietthinker]

You should check the rules on this. This forum's statement of faith affirms the deity of Jesus Christ, and the rules have prohibited challenging that.

Much love!

hmmmm.....it's getting rough, particularly when the participants float the rules! If God's laws are supposedly done away with, how is it men are such sticklers for their own?

 

[marks]

hmmmm.....it's getting rough, particularly when the participants float the rules! If God's laws are supposedly done away with, how is it men are such sticklers for their own?

Social contracts.

Much love!

 

[Mikey-for-sure]

He said he was taught by God.
He said he was sent by God.
He said he would be resurrected by God.
Hew said he would RETURN to God.
He said he was given all authority and power by God.

But the Churches teach he himself is God?

WHY?

The Church was traumatised under Diocletian. There was in fact a great controversy with Bishop of Alexandria and Bishop Melitius of Lycopolis for the ease with which lapsed Christians were received back into communion. I like to say traitors (traditore) for the traditional faith :) .

 

[Meditation]

Hebrews 1:3 ESV
3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature...

Imprint of WHOSE nature? He's God, after all! heh

 

[Meditation]

God is Jesus' God! heh

 

[Meditation]

The WHOLE Bible glorifies the Trinity! heh Verse by Verse!

With a little help, we can see~ Genesis 1:1- In the beginning the Triune God created the heavens and the earth. 2 - Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the God-the-Ghost was hovering to and fro over the waters. 26-Then the Triune Majesty said...

www.christianityboard.com

 

[Mikey-for-sure]

The Church was traumatised under Diocletian. There was in fact a great controversy with Bishop of Alexandria and Bishop Melitius of Lycopolis for the ease with which lapsed Christians were received back into communion. I like to say traitors (traditore) for the traditional faith :) .

Diocletian was Roman emperor from 284 to 305 CE. A pagan who worshipped classical Olympus. In 297 CE he demanded that all soldiers and members of the administration sacrifice to the gods; those who would not were immediately forced to resign. Next, in 303 CE he ordered the destruction of all churches and Christian texts. All of these edicts were encouraged by Galerius. However, throughout this Great Persecution, the Christians refused to yield and sacrifice to the Roman gods. Leading members of the clergy were arrested and ordered to sacrifice or die and a bishop in Nicomedia who refused was beheaded. Finally, any Christian who refused was tortured and killed. Except for the traditore who probably did not refuse, I wonder how far up the food chain they were promoted in this new roman order. At long last, the persecution came to an end in 305 CE.
When Diocletian and Maximian abdicated on May 1, 305, Constantius became the senior emperor in the West. He died the following year in a victory over the Picts, and his troops proclaimed (his son) Constantine emperor.
Saint Athanasius (c. 298 373) attended the first Nicene Council, convened by Constantine, as a deacon of the Church in Alexandria. Though only 27 years old, he was a leader at that council in promoting the crucial word homoousios. Ousia (Ancient Greek: οὐσία) is a philosophical and theological term, originally used in ancient Greek philosophy,... It was used by various ancient Greek philosophers, like Plato and Aristotle, as a primary designation for philosophical concepts of essence or substance.

 

[Mikey-for-sure]

Diocletian was Roman emperor from 284 to 305 CE. A pagan who worshipped classical Olympus. In 297 CE he demanded that all soldiers and members of the administration sacrifice to the gods; those who would not were immediately forced to resign. Next, in 303 CE he ordered the destruction of all churches and Christian texts. All of these edicts were encouraged by Galerius. However, throughout this Great Persecution, the Christians refused to yield and sacrifice to the Roman gods. Leading members of the clergy were arrested and ordered to sacrifice or die and a bishop in Nicomedia who refused was beheaded. Finally, any Christian who refused was tortured and killed. Except for the traditore who probably did not refuse, I wonder how far up the food chain they were promoted in this new roman order. At long last, the persecution came to an end in 305 CE.
When Diocletian and Maximian abdicated on May 1, 305, Constantius became the senior emperor in the West. He died the following year in a victory over the Picts, and his troops proclaimed (his son) Constantine emperor.
Saint Athanasius (c. 298 373) attended the first Nicene Council, convened by Constantine, as a deacon of the Church in Alexandria. Though only 27 years old, he was a leader at that council in promoting the crucial word homoousios. Ousia (Ancient Greek: οὐσία) is a philosophical and theological term, originally used in ancient Greek philosophy,... It was used by various ancient Greek philosophers, like Plato and Aristotle, as a primary designation for philosophical concepts of essence or substance.

Constantine is chilling with this lady in a blood red dress sipping some wine and chatting about Plato."Yes, my grandpappy made this wine." "Yum delicious"

 

[Mikey-for-sure]

Constantine is chilling with this lady in a blood red dress sipping some wine and chatting about Plato."Yes, my grandpappy made this wine." "Yum delicious"

What happens when you mix Plato with Olympian paganism. The demiurgic triad - zeus of the sky, zeus of the sea, and zeus of the underworld earth. Sounds familiar.

 

[Keiw]

He said he was taught by God.
He said he was sent by God.
He said he would be resurrected by God.
Hew said he would RETURN to God.
He said he was given all authority and power by God.

But the Churches teach he himself is God?

WHY?

Because satan, through his religions( 2Cor 11:12-15) claiming to be christian--altered the bible by satans will.( Removal of Gods name in over 7000 places where God wants it) All using the altered bibles are being mislead. They refuse to believe it though. At John 1:1 in Greek, the word used for God capitol G ended in a v,= God, the word got a Greek word ending in a g=god--That one letter change has mislead billions over the centuries into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily. The same occurs at 2 Cor 4:4-the true God word ended in a v,=God satan ended in a g=god. It works the same at both spots. Trinity scholars know 100% they teach that lie for billions of $$$ yearly, year after year. RUN FROM THEM.

 

[Jack]

Because satan, through his religions( 2Cor 11:12-15) claiming to be christian--altered the bible by satans will.( Removal of Gods name in over 7000 places where God wants it) All using the altered bibles are being mislead.

Actually that's exactly what you're trying to do 'by satans will'.

They refuse to believe it though. At John 1:1 in Greek, the word used for God capitol G ended in a v,= God, the word got a Greek word ending in a g=god--That one letter change has mislead billions over the centuries into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily. The same occurs at 2 Cor 4:4-the true God word ended in a v,=God satan ended in a g=god. It works the same at both spots.

Just because Kingdom Hall convinced you that you're a Greek and Hebrew expert doesn't make it so. Every Bible I know of says you're WRONG, even the JW bible!

Trinity scholars know 100% they teach that lie for billions of $$$ yearly, year after year. RUN FROM THEM.

Yeah, run to Kingdom Hall and burn in Hell!

 

[Wrangler]

Yeah, run to Kingdom Hall and burn in Hell!

Agh, I love the smell of that brotherly love of Christian agape in the morning.

 

[Jack]

Agh, I love the smell of that brotherly love of Christian agape in the morning.

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Indeed! True Biblical love!

Jude 1
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

 

[amigo de christo]

Indeed! True Biblical love!

Jude 1
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

Many are soldiers of men , but lambs are soliders of CHRIST . my advice , dont believe the JW camp .

 

[amigo de christo]

Indeed! True Biblical love!

Jude 1
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

I dont know why it would offend them . I mean they dont even believe in it . Many gonna wail
for adding to and taking from that book . And i do mean many . But as for the lambs we gonna stay glued in the scriptures .

 

[Wrangler]

Indeed! True Biblical love!

Jude 1
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

Telling him to burn in hell is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of pulling them out of the fire, THE EXACT OPPOSITE Jack.

 

[APAK]

Indeed! True Biblical love!

Jude 1
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

Maybe this is what you need, yourself to be pulled from the 'fire.'

You know those that believe differently than yourself on this subject matter are not all of the Kingdom Hall variety. So why do you and other love to go there? To avoid really what they have to say and their words. It's an easy psychological cop out in my book. Why not pick on the Unitarians that have some beliefs in common with the Kingdom Hall, at least in this topic, on the surface level at least.

Just saying, you might be fooling yourself...aka 'being blinded with ignorance'