What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

[BeyondET]

Just as sure and certain as your spirit is you.

”1. The one God. (a) theos is the most frequent designation of God in the NT. Belief in the one, only and unique God (Matt. 23:9; Rom. 3:30; 1 Cor. 8:4,6; Gal. 3:20; 1 Tim. 2:5; Jas. 2:19) is an established part of Christian tradition. Jesus himself made the fundamental confession of Jud. his own and expressly quoted the Shema (Deut. 6:4-5; see Mk. 12:29-30; cf. Matt. 22:37; Lk. 10:27). This guaranteed continuity between the old and the new covenants. The God whom Christians worship is the God of the fathers (Acts 3:13; 5:30; 22:14), the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Acts 3:13; 7:32; cf. Matt. 22:32; Mk. 12:26; Lk. 20:37), the God of Israel (Matt. 15:31; Lk. 1:68; Acts 13:17), and the God of Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 1:3; Eph. 1:3; 1Pet. 1:3).”

(New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, Abridged Edition, p. 244)

So there is two in one but not Jesus his the odd spirit out?

 

[Matthias]

So there is two in one but not Jesus his the odd spirit out?

No. The one God, the God of Jesus Christ, is the Father and none other.

 

[BeyondET]

No. The one God, the God of Jesus Christ, is the Father and none other.

So how does Jesus take God's Holy Spirit and pass it around?

 

[Matthias]

So how does Jesus take God's Holy Spirit and pass it around?

That’s a great question. There’s a very close connection in scripture between mind, spirit and words. Jesus has the mind of God. The words he speaks are spirit and life (John 6:63).

 

[Aunty Jane]

So you do you personally know of a creation that shows his visible attributes because scripture says they can be seen.

Fully explained already....

I know of some, one is what Jesus did on the cross, it's a animal but it will do the same.

You are going to have to rephrase that one.....I have no idea what you mean....

 

[Johann]

It hasn't been fulfilled yet (on earth as it is in heaven), has it? Has his government been established? Has peace been ever increasing?

There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace.

So the prophecy wasn't about the man- Jesus. Not about an earthly kingdom, but a spiritual one.

This looks like a Orthodox Jewish viewpoint.

 

[BeyondET]

That’s a great question. There’s a very close connection in scripture between mind, spirit and words. Jesus has the mind of God. The words he speaks are spirit and life (John 6:63).

Yes indeed He has the mind of God, He is the Word of God.

1 cor 2:11
For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit within him? So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.

 

[Matthias]

Yes indeed He has the mind of God, He is the Word of God.

1 cor 2:11
For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit within him? So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.

Link that with Philippians 2:5 and we establish God’s mind / spirit in believers; believers are filled with God’s Holy Spirit.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I must assume that nobody knows why Jesus should be God since nobody can answer the question as to why Jesus needs to be God.

I did to my satisfaction. God is holy, and sinless. The lamb must be spotless, and not a human is since Adam sinned. I should think the why is obvious. But God can't die, so He must also be human. He had to be BOTH.

 

[BeyondET]

Link that with Philippians 2:5 and we establish God’s mind / spirit in believers; believers are filled with God’s Holy Spirit.

Do you know all of God's mind?

 

[Matthias]

Do you know all of God's mind?

No. We know only what God has revealed about his mind.

 

[BeyondET]

No. We know only what God has revealed about his mind.

So the verse before the one you posted says what to have in the mind?

 

[Matthias]

So the verse before the one you posted says what to have in the mind?

The same that is in Jesus. God’s mind, spirit, words.

 

[Jack]

It means I am now or I'm the one that counts now.

I think I'll believe Jesus over your opinion. Another JW?

 

[BeyondET]

The same that is in Jesus. God’s mind, spirit, words.

About the mind that you posted it isn't easy sometimes lol..

Philippians 2
1Therefore if you have any encouragement in Christ, if any comfort from His love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, 2then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being united in spirit and purpose.

3Do nothing out of selfish ambition or empty pride, but in humility consider others more important than yourselves. 4Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.

 

[BeyondET]

Jesus, God, Holy Spirit are perfect at it with each other, Three peas in a God.

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

I must assume that nobody knows why Jesus should be God since nobody can answer the question as to why Jesus needs to be God.

The answer continually escapes you. But it is there.

 

[Jack]

Jesus, God, Holy Spirit are perfect at it with each other, Three peas in a God.

Jesus is God. Thomas said so.
"My Lord and my God"!

 

[BeyondET]

Jesus is God. Thomas said so.
"My Lord and my God"!

Well sticking a finger in the side is a step indeed

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

Maybe this will help some here.

Source:Why Did Our Savior Also Need to Be God?

David Wright, AiG–U.S., explains why only God could have been the Savior of mankind.

For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. (Isaiah 9:6)
If Jesus was fully human, why did He also need to be fully God? Although we needed a blood relative to redeem us, we also needed God.

The former covenant with its regulations on sacrifices was unable to “perfect the conscience of the worshiper” (Hebrews 9:9). Because Christ was (and is) God, He was able to enter the tabernacle that was unreachable by human means. Because He was perfect He was able to enter heaven and act as the Mediator on our behalf. His sacrifice paid for sins once and for all and abolished the need for repeated sacrifices and reminders of sin. Only God is perfect and could offer us perfection. (Hebrews 9:11–10:18)

Hosea 13:4 summarizes this truth that is taught throughout Scripture: “Yet I am the LORD your God ever since the land of Egypt, and you shall know no God but Me; for there is no Savior besides Me.” New Testament writers also pointed out that God alone is the Savior (1 Timothy 2:3; 2 Peter 1:1). So we see that our Savior had to be and was indeed God.

There is another reason why the Savior had to be God. The just punishment for sin is eternal separation from God. Our sin makes us guilty and separates us infinitely from a perfectly righteous God. Since no finite number of good thoughts and actions can bring us closer to an infinite righteousness, we needed an infinitely atoning sacrifice that would cover all of our sins for all time—past, present, and future.

Since Jesus was also God, He was able to pay the infinite penalty for us and thus provide a bridge between us and God the Father. Only God could take the sins of the whole world upon Himself and wash our sin stains as white as snow.

"For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21)
Christ was the perfect sacrifice whose perfection is granted to all who receive Him by faith. His infinite sacrifice means that we would no longer have to be separated from God as we deserve.

Jesus is God, and His infinite, eternal sacrifice covers all our sins—past, present and future.

Thank God He came to earth to pay the infinite punishment for us so that the gap would be bridged and we can now come before Him.