soberxp
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But I am quoting the words of the Bible, and the Trinity does not know how it was inspired by God or the Holy Spirit.maybe it is absolutely right, but have nothing to do with understand the word of God.
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The reason doesn’t matter. As a member who is registered “Christian”, you’re violating the Board rules.
Not that. The way you play your game and set the rules on what to you constitutes orthodox Trinitarian teaching.
While you reject any teaching that also reveals God is Trinity that is not your very limited scope.
soberxp
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maybe it is absolutely right, but have nothing to do with understand the word of God.
Everything needs to get to the point,Especially when reading and understanding a book.
Of course that God and Jesus Christ and Holy spirit could be in one spirit body.and then what?
As recently as three hundred years ago, those who affirm historical orthodox trinitarianism would have captured you, tortured you and, if you refused to recant, would have put you to death. They would have done the same to me - but not if I said to them what I’m saying to you about orthodoxy.
You have no respect for the constraints of history.
The Board rules allow “Christian” members to believe anything they want in regard to the matter but prohibit “Christian” members who don’t affirm orthodoxy from discussing it with anyone.
soberxp
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Okay,the Board rules is for not Debate in vain, I think discussing in sobering is welcome.
So that is your gimmick....
You claim something said to not being orthodoxy, so you can avoid dealing with something showing you to be wrong.
That's what you are doing....
What I have been saying agrees with orthodoxy! It even helps clarify it.
You’re heading for a confrontation with a moderator. They‘ve offered you an alternative that you’ve chosen not to take.
soberxp
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@Matthias
I respect for what you believe in, and I didn't see anything wrong with you.
You're a Jewish monotheism.I can be Jewish monotheism, and I can be a Christian, a Catholic, even a Muslim.
I am only looking for God's word, whether I find it in Jesus Christ or whatever.
What we should believe is not only a "word"，such as "Jehovah" or "God" or "Jesus",
We need to believe in God's word, God's word is unified and harmonious.
This is the point that you could tell everyone"I have faith in the God of Abraham....etc."
I respect for what you believe in, and I didn't see anything wrong with you.
You're a Jewish monotheism.I can be Jewish monotheism, and I can be a Christian, a Catholic, even a Muslim.
I am only looking for God's word, whether I find it in Jesus Christ or whatever.
What we should believe is not only a "word"，such as "Jehovah" or "God" or "Jesus",
We need to believe in God's word, God's word is unified and harmonious.
This is the point that you could tell everyone"I have faith in the God of Abraham....etc."
I don’t have a gimmick. Those are the rules of the Board, effective February 25, 2025. Read them for yourself. I’ve provided a link for you.
Post in thread 'Christianity Board Statement of Faith'
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I’m defending orthodoxy against you. That’s something which one of them should be doing.
Historical orthodox trinitarianism needs no clarifying. It has been clearly defined for 1700 years.
That you feel it necessary to clarify it is evidence that you don’t affirm it and that you don’t agree with it!
You aren’t Christian but you’re registered “Christian”. It’s only a matter of time before that lands you in trouble with the moderators.
soberxp
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Thank you for reminding me, but that's not my problem. If they were guided by the Holy Spirit, they would know what I'm saying.
Don't limit ourself to a limited scope, our vision will be more open.
It will be if / when they decide to enforce the rules that you’re breaking.
Saying that about them isn’t going to be well received by them.
A long time ago I asked a priest why I or anyone should affirm historical orthodox trinitarianism. His reply was simple and direct - “It is the teaching of the church.”
The administrator and moderators have stated very clearly that they are taking a stand for orthodoxy. I take them seriously at their word.
I’m doing what I can to help you, but in the end the choice is yours to make.
soberxp
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I've said everything I want to say, and I don't know how else to explain it for myself.
Jesus is the Prophet, Muslims think so and they think they only obey the Allah.
You think Jesus Christ is Messiah and you only obey the Jehovah.
I didn't get anything wrong with both of it.
Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God himself, God made man in the image of God,Jesus is man and Jesus said you see me and you see the father,I and my father are one.
2 Corinthians 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
I didn't get anything wrong with it.
Alright.........all.right, nothing wrong, It's just a silly argument. This thing is wrong.......
I’ll let the Muslims speak for themselves but what you say here about me is not correct.
The rules recognize and acknowledge that not all Christians believe that. Those here who are registered “Christian” must either change their registration to “Other Faith” or keep their mouths shut.
Admin and the moderators don’t think it’s “just a silly argument”. They want it stopped and they will stop it.
soberxp
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silly argument. This thing is wrong …
It is what the Bible says, I see it as the word of God.
Admin and the moderators don’t agree with your interpretation of what is written in scripture.
The new rules are proving to be effective outside of this thread. I’m paying attention to that, as everyone should.
soberxp
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