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But you didn't believe that I saw Jesus Christ coming. He came through the clouds.

I still don’t. He hasn’t returned yet. When he does, everyone will see him.

I do remember that conversation now. Thank you for refreshing my memory.
 
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The second coming of Jesus

p.s I have told in my post, My experience comes from real reality, not from dreams。
I can truely understand your doubt,
the day 2008.10.10 was the second coming of Jesus
I'll bring out all the Scriptures about 10:10,
You choose the part you think you are interested in
We can talk about it

New Testament

Revelation 10:10
I took the little scroll from the angel's hand and ate it. It tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned sour.
Hebrews 10:10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
2-Corinthians 10:10 For some say, "His letters are weighty and forceful, but in person he is unimpressive and his speaking amounts to nothing."
1-Corinthians 10:10 And do not grumble, as some of them did--and were killed by the destroying angel.
Romans 10:10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
Acts 10:10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance.
John 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
Luke 10:10 But when you enter a town and are not welcomed, go into its streets and say,
Mark 10:10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this.
Matthew 10:10 take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep.

Old Testament

Zechariah 10:10
I will bring them back from Egypt and gather them from Assyria. I will bring them to Gilead and Lebanon, and there will not be room enough for them.
Hosea 10:10 When I please, I will punish them; nations will be gathered against them to put them in bonds for their double sin.
Daniel 10:10 A hand touched me and set me trembling on my hands and knee
Ezekiel 10:10 As for their appearance, the four of them looked alike; each was like a wheel intersecting a wheel
Jeremiah 10:10 But the LORD is the true God; he is the living God, the eternal King. When he is angry, the earth trembles; the nations cannot endure his wrath.
Isaiah 10:10 As my hand seized the kingdoms of the idols, kingdoms whose images excelled those of Jerusalem and Samaria--
Ecclesiastes 10:10 If the ax is dull and its edge unsharpened, more strength is needed but skill will bring success.
Proverbs 10:10 He who winks maliciously causes grief, and a chattering fool comes to ruin.
Psalms 10:10 His victims are crushed, they collapse; they fall under his strength.
Job 10:10 Did you not pour me out like milk and curdle me like cheese,
Nehemiah 10:10 and their associates: Shebaniah, Hodiah, Kelita, Pelaiah, Hanan,
Ezra 10:10 Then Ezra the priest stood up and said to them, "You have been unfaithful; you have married foreign women, adding to Israel's guilt.
2-Chronicles 10:10 The young men who had grown up with him replied, "Tell the people who have said to you, 'Your father put a heavy yoke on us, but make our yoke lighter'--tell them, 'My little finger is thicker than my father's waist.
1-Chronicles 10:10 They put his armor in the temple of their gods and hung up his head in the temple of Dagon.
2-Kings 10:10 Know then, that not a word the LORD has spoken against the house of Ahab will fail. The LORD has done what he promised through his servant Elijah."
1-Kings 10:10 And she gave the king 120 talents of gold, large quantities of spices, and precious stones. Never again were so many spices brought in as those the queen of Sheba gave to King Solomon.
2-Samuel 10:10 He put the rest of the men under the command of Abishai his brother and deployed them against the Ammonites.
1-Samuel 10:10 When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying
Judges 10:10 Then the Israelites cried out to the LORD, "We have sinned against you, forsaking our God and serving the Baals."
Joshua 10:10 The LORD threw them into confusion before Israel, who defeated them in a great victory at Gibeon. Israel pursued them along the road going up to Beth Horon and cut them down all the way to Azekah and Makkedah.
Deuteronomy 10:10 Now I had stayed on the mountain forty days and nights, as I did the first time, and the LORD listened to me at this time also. It was not his will to destroy you.
Numbers 10:10 Also at your times of rejoicing--your appointed feasts and New Moon festivals--you are to sound the trumpets over your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, and they will be a memorial for you before your God. I am the LORD your God."
Leviticus 10:10 You must distinguish between the holy and the common, between the unclean and the clean,
Exodus 10:10 Pharaoh said, "The LORD be with you--if I let you go, along with your women and children! Clearly you are bent on evil.
Genesis 10:10 The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Erech, Akkad and Calneh, in Shinar.
 

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I still don’t. He hasn’t returned yet. When he does, everyone will see him.

I do remember that conversation now. Thank you for refreshing my memory.
I'm used to this answer, at least I've left the message somewhere, and I don't care if people believe me, Even if it is important, it is out of my control and entrusted to God.
 
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The second coming of Jesus

p.s I have told in my post, My experience comes from real reality, not from dreams。
I can truely understand your doubt,
the day 2008.10.10 was the second coming of Jesus
I'll bring out all the Scriptures about 10:10,
You choose the part you think you are interested in
We can talk about it

New Testament

Revelation 10:10
I took the little scroll from the angel's hand and ate it. It tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned sour.
Hebrews 10:10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
2-Corinthians 10:10 For some say, "His letters are weighty and forceful, but in person he is unimpressive and his speaking amounts to nothing."
1-Corinthians 10:10 And do not grumble, as some of them did--and were killed by the destroying angel.
Romans 10:10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
Acts 10:10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance.
John 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
Luke 10:10 But when you enter a town and are not welcomed, go into its streets and say,
Mark 10:10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this.
Matthew 10:10 take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep.

Old Testament

Zechariah 10:10
I will bring them back from Egypt and gather them from Assyria. I will bring them to Gilead and Lebanon, and there will not be room enough for them.
Hosea 10:10 When I please, I will punish them; nations will be gathered against them to put them in bonds for their double sin.
Daniel 10:10 A hand touched me and set me trembling on my hands and knee
Ezekiel 10:10 As for their appearance, the four of them looked alike; each was like a wheel intersecting a wheel
Jeremiah 10:10 But the LORD is the true God; he is the living God, the eternal King. When he is angry, the earth trembles; the nations cannot endure his wrath.
Isaiah 10:10 As my hand seized the kingdoms of the idols, kingdoms whose images excelled those of Jerusalem and Samaria--
Ecclesiastes 10:10 If the ax is dull and its edge unsharpened, more strength is needed but skill will bring success.
Proverbs 10:10 He who winks maliciously causes grief, and a chattering fool comes to ruin.
Psalms 10:10 His victims are crushed, they collapse; they fall under his strength.
Job 10:10 Did you not pour me out like milk and curdle me like cheese,
Nehemiah 10:10 and their associates: Shebaniah, Hodiah, Kelita, Pelaiah, Hanan,
Ezra 10:10 Then Ezra the priest stood up and said to them, "You have been unfaithful; you have married foreign women, adding to Israel's guilt.
2-Chronicles 10:10 The young men who had grown up with him replied, "Tell the people who have said to you, 'Your father put a heavy yoke on us, but make our yoke lighter'--tell them, 'My little finger is thicker than my father's waist.
1-Chronicles 10:10 They put his armor in the temple of their gods and hung up his head in the temple of Dagon.
2-Kings 10:10 Know then, that not a word the LORD has spoken against the house of Ahab will fail. The LORD has done what he promised through his servant Elijah."
1-Kings 10:10 And she gave the king 120 talents of gold, large quantities of spices, and precious stones. Never again were so many spices brought in as those the queen of Sheba gave to King Solomon.
2-Samuel 10:10 He put the rest of the men under the command of Abishai his brother and deployed them against the Ammonites.
1-Samuel 10:10 When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying
Judges 10:10 Then the Israelites cried out to the LORD, "We have sinned against you, forsaking our God and serving the Baals."
Joshua 10:10 The LORD threw them into confusion before Israel, who defeated them in a great victory at Gibeon. Israel pursued them along the road going up to Beth Horon and cut them down all the way to Azekah and Makkedah.
Deuteronomy 10:10 Now I had stayed on the mountain forty days and nights, as I did the first time, and the LORD listened to me at this time also. It was not his will to destroy you.
Numbers 10:10 Also at your times of rejoicing--your appointed feasts and New Moon festivals--you are to sound the trumpets over your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, and they will be a memorial for you before your God. I am the LORD your God."
Leviticus 10:10 You must distinguish between the holy and the common, between the unclean and the clean,
Exodus 10:10 Pharaoh said, "The LORD be with you--if I let you go, along with your women and children! Clearly you are bent on evil.
Genesis 10:10 The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Erech, Akkad and Calneh, in Shinar.

Where do you think he is right now?
 

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Where do you think he is right now?
He is always there, watching us at father's right hand,he was talking with me and Thousand Saints,They really don't need rest and sleep,they can talking all days, but I am normal person, I need sleep and do something else,At that time, I couldn't tell whether the voice was what the people of the world said or what they said in heaven.
I was even a little upset during that time,So they're out of my hearing right now.
But you can try to listen to the wind. Maybe you can hear something.
But I can still talk to a spirit who remains, my companion, perhaps my Partner, just like God made Eve for Adam.
She's the only spirit/person in the world who knows me best.

But I learned a lot of things during that time,
Jesus said to me:" Who's lying?"
A saint said to me:"How the more believe the weaker?"(No reproachful or accusatory tone, just a gentle question)
Another saint said, " You don't love Jesus at all. "
When I understood the answer,I found myself unable to do better than Israel under God's leading such as in the OT, I make mistakes just like them.
 
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He is always there, watching us at father's right hand,he was talking with me and Thousand Saints,They really don't need rest and sleep,they can talking all days, but I am normal person, I need sleep and do something else,At that time, I couldn't tell whether the voice was what the people of the world said or what they said in heaven.

Then he isn’t on the earth presently. He was here in the 1st century, then he ascended to heaven. He came back, you say, in the 21st century, and is now back in heaven. Are you anticipating that he will return here again?

Just as an aside, do you think he ever came back before this century?

I was even a little upset during that time,So they're out of my hearing right now.
But you can try to listen to the wind. Maybe you can hear something.
But I can still talk to a spirit who remains, my companion, perhaps my Partner, just like God made Eve for Adam.
She's the only spirit/person in the world who knows me best.

But I learned a lot of things during that time,
Jesus said to me:" Who's lying?"
A saint said to me:"How the more believe the weaker?"(No reproachful or accusatory tone, just a gentle question)
Another saint said, " You don't love Jesus at all. "
When I understood the answer,I found myself unable to do better than Israel under God's leading, I make mistakes just like them.
 

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Will, he isn’t on the earth presently. He was here in the 1st century, then he ascended to heaven. He came back, you say, in the 21st century, and is now back in heaven. Are you that he will return here again?

Just as an aside, do you think he ever came back before this century?
There are no words to describe that time, it's like 1,000 Years Reign by Christ any day.(as the Bible says 1day as 1000years.)
Anything that happens on Earth around me is incredible and beyond common sense.
The pleasure I had hoped for in my mind (no evil meaning) came to me right away.It's like Jesus said you're going to be with me in paradise today.

The Bible says he returned in the cloud, but never said he came down to earth from heaven.

We have free Will, we can choose whatever we want, of crouse the will of myself or the will of God.

So believe in the word of the Bible.
I'm so bored I just want to wait until the day I go to sleep, then have great Joy in paradise,I can't wait.
 

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There are no words to describe that time, it's like 1,000 Years Reign by Christ any day.(as the Bible says 1day as 1000years.)
Anything that happens on Earth around me is incredible and beyond common sense.
The pleasure I had hoped for in my mind (no evil meaning) came to me right away.It's like Jesus said you're going to be with me in paradise today.

The Bible says he returned in the cloud, but never said he came down to earth from heaven.

We have free Will, we can choose whatever we want, of crouse the will of myself or the will of God.

So believe in the word of the Bible.
I'm so bored I just want to wait until the day I go to sleep, then have great Joy in paradise,I can't wait.

I believe only in the first advent and in a second advent that is yet future.

He will sit on his father David’s throne in Jerusalem when he returns.

I also believe in the bodily resurrection of the dead believers when he returns.

As Jesus said in Matthew 24, it won’t be a secret coming at his second coming.
 
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I believe only in the first advent and in a second advent that is yet future.

He will sit on his father David’s throne in Jerusalem when he returns.
No one knows the day hours even you thinking it is future, he come quickly than you thinking.
Maybe all of you, Except me,Because I've really been through this..........
Don't be jealous of me,If you was me ,
you'd be more confused than I am, Because the church teaching about the second coming of Jesus Christ is wrong...........
I can't defeat these mistakes. Maybe defeat will make believers lose faith.

Remember that Endure to the end.
 

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No one knows the day hours even you thinking it is future, he come quickly than you thinking.

You claim to know the day and the hour, it having already occurred (you say) in your presence.

Maybe all of you, Except me,Because I've really been through this..........
Don't be jealous of me,If you was me ,
you'd be more confused than I am, Because the church teaching about the second coming of Jesus Christ is wrong...........
I can't defeat these mistakes. Maybe defeat will make believers lose faith.

Remember that Endure to the end.

Thanks. I’m not jealous of you.
 

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The spirit in my right ear tells me that you will believe me.I believe what she says. She's always right.

She’s wrong this time. You’re listening to a seducing spirit.

I'm not getting any benefit. You should read carefully what Ezekiel's responsibility is for Israel in the Bible.

Ezekiel is a Jewish monotheist. I’ve read him carefully many times.
 
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You understand me as well as you understand the Trinity.

You’re registered “Christian” and speaking against historical orthodox trinitarianism. You’re offering your readers an alternative. That’s easy for everyone to see and understand.
 

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You’re registered “Christian” and speaking against historical orthodox trinitarianism. You’re offering your readers an alternative. That’s easy for everyone to see and understand.

Well I guess you got your boxes all lined up that you place people in....

Its your game you want to win.

Not truth.
 

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Well I guess you got your boxes all lined up that you place people in....

Its your game you want to win.

Not truth.

It was the Board administration that lined up the boxes and established the rules, not me.
 

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You understand me as well as you understand the Trinity.
You’re registered “Christian” and speaking against historical orthodox trinitarianism. You’re offering your readers an alternative. That’s easy for everyone to see and understand.

Forget about Trinity and focus on the word of God.
Jesus Christ is the living word of God
God himself is the word with him.
Holy spirit is the helper of the word of God.
Thinking it this way as Trinity which is better than three person in one.
 

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Forget about Trinity and focus on the word of God.

I’m discussing the Trinity with trinitarians. That puts me in a position where it’s not possible to forget the Trinity. Are you advising me not to speak with the trinitarians?

Jesus Christ is the living word of God
God himself is the word with him.
Holy spirit is the help of the word of God.
Thinking it this way as Trinity which is better than three person in one.

Do you grasp that what you’re saying about the Trinity is a violation of the board rules?