I don't live in Armegeddon. It's on the other side of the planet. Iay be slightly affected after our military kills nearly everyone in the middle east. I expect gas prices to go up.
Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?
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I don't live in Armegeddon. It's on the other side of the planet. Iay be slightly affected after our military kills nearly everyone in the middle east. I expect gas prices to go up.
Ronald Nolette
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So now you have half the 70th week c. 2000 years ago and another 3 1/2 years later on?
Jesus is not the 70th week! The 70th week is the 70th week and Daniel 9 gives a very brief synopsis of events that will occur in the 70th week!
Jesus died in the end of the 69th week or 483 years from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem.
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
You conveniently forget who and what the 490 years are for! Israel and Jerusalem.
I agree He prepares the way for the Millenial kingdom. When He returns He separates the sheep from the goats and restores most of the world to an Edenic like state!
So Jesus is killed at the end of 483 years! No three and 1/2 years after that for Jesus on earth!
Ronald Nolette
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Wrong again! The antichrist gathers his forces at Her-magiddo or Armageddon. the final battle actually takes place at Bozrah?Petrah which is declared in Is. 63:
Isaiah 63
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63 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.
Bozrah/Petra is where most of Israel; flees to at the mid point of the 70th week when the AOD enters the temple and declares himself god. this is also confirmed in REv. 12 Where Israel flees to a place God has prepared for them and cares for them for 3 1/2 years.
Ronald Nolette
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Wrong- it describes teh globe! Believers are not all scrunched into Babylon. GEEZ!
Your not very familiar with the Bible are you. Just keep trying and someday you may learn a thing or two.
Revelation 17:15 Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute was seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues.
Anyone who knows Babylon knows its full of immigrants from all over the world. A stroll through Babylon on any day, you can hear many languages being spoken.
Ronald Nolette
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Well you do not read well.
Babylon is not a place with multitudes and nations!
Babylon today is very Iraqi. Teh only foreing tongues are the US Embassy and a few others. But not REv. 17.
Babylon does not sit on many waters!- Two does not equalmany!
Also teh current population of Babylon is just under 214,000 Certainly not multitudes and nations and tongues.
Well you do not read well.
Babylon is not a place with multitudes and nations!
Babylon today is very Iraqi. Teh only foreing tongues are the US Embassy and a few others. But not REv. 17.
Babylon does not sit on many waters!- Two does not equalmany!
Also teh current population of Babylon is just under 214,000 Certainly not multitudes and nations and tongues.
Babylon the great is not in Iraq.
Revelation 17:15 Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute was seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues.
Insted of arguing with this verse you should attempt to understand it. You might learn where Babylon the great is if you paid more attention to detail.
Revelation gives enough knowledge to anyone who believes it to tell what city that it is talking about. But if you don't know what city it is after seeing this verse then you need to read the gospel.
Revelation 18:24 And there was found in her the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who had been slain on the earth.
Timtofly
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The 483 years were up decades before Christ was born. Christ came after the 69th week. Of course the 70 weeks are for Israel. That is why the last 3.5 years are part of the GT, the time of Jacob's trouble. The church started at the Cross was not part of the 70 weeks, period. After the fulness of the Gentiles, then the final months of the 70th week will be declared. Until the church is gone, Jacob's trouble, the GT cannot even start. The GT is the 6 Trumpets and 7 Thunders. This is the final harvest per Matthew 13. This is the time Jesus as Prince sits on the throne and separates the sheep from the goats. Not the church, as the church left at the 6th Seal, the Second Coming.
Timtofly
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Sounds like the whole world. Christians have been martyred in various places on earth.
If you think that you should read the gospel and pay close attention to what Jesus says about the subject.
Ronald Nolette
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There is teh city Babylon and there is Babylon the Great! Babylon the Great is the mother of all harlots and prostitutes. Babylon the Great is a religious system what many call the one world church that gets destroyed. So we have th e rebuilt city (which is accomplished) and teh religious system that traces its origins all the way back to Nimrod and semiramis and is still active throughout the world today!
Ronald Nolette
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Wow not only do you reinterpret Scripture, but now you are revising proven history as well!
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
the book of Nehemiah chapter 2 covers that decree by Artaxerxes and that took place c448 BC. that also coincides with Jesus dying after teh 69 weeks.
Your whole first sentence shows you did n't even read the prophecy with any care! for jesus dies after the first 483 years!
As I've told you before and will tell you again. You need to pay attention to what the word of God teaches and stop listening to blind leaders of the blind.
Revelation 17:18 And the woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth."
You will not know what city it is if you don't pay attention to God.There is sufficient amount of knowledge given in Revelation for you to know what city this is speaking of. Pay attention to the gospel of Jesus Christ also.
Ronald Nolette
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And follow you instead! I have followed the word of God for 48 years now! How about you!
I also see a city and a religious system. sorry you can't- it is all right there in Gods Word! So where do you say tehis Babylon is if it is not teh rebuilt city of babylon! Hussein used 6 million of the original bricks to rebuild the ancient Babvylon.
and your juvenile name calling just demeans you and makes you less honorable.
Revelation 17:18 And the woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth."
It's not hard to figure out. With all your 48 years of asking other people questions I'm sure one of them gave you the right answer.
It's not hard at all if you were familiar with the gospel.
Revelation 18:24 And there was found in her the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who had been slain on the earth.
So you can't answer once again. What's the matter, afraid to be clear, or unable? Just like the topic here, you seemed to claim that the battle involving Gog invading Israel was at the end of the 1000 years, no? Another point on the timing of that war, if God redeems Israel who all get saved when they see Him whom they pierced at the end of the Tribulation, who could ever again attack them?
Timtofly
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No, the decree was covered in Ezra. Nehemiah does not contradict Ezra. Your interpretation is off.
I'm not the one who says Gog invades Israel after the 1000 years. The revelation of Jesus Christ, (which you deny) says Gog invades Israel at the end of the 1000 years. I just agree with the revelation of Jesus Christ.Im glad Jesus gave me the revelation and I will continue to support it.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
Revelation 20:7 When the thousand years are complete, Satan will be released from his prison,
Revelation 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to assemble them for battle. Their number is like the sand of the seashore.
Revelation 20:9 And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them.
Is there anything else you would like to point out that the revelation of Jesus Christ is untruthful about?
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