The Great Second Exodus

[Keraz]

Talk about replacement theology. You take it to the extreme in this case.

Careful reading of Ezekiel 38 & 39, makes it clear that Gog/Magog are not attacking the Jewish State of Israel. They are motivated to attack a people living peacefully; without military protection, or security walls and fences.
Why does God motivate Gog? Because He wants to demonstrate His Power of protection to His faithful peoples, Ezekiel 38:23, Joel 2:20


Quite unlike the Israeli's, who rely on their own strength and have no acknowledgment of God, or need for His help.

So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward . And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity:

This Prophecy is for the House of Israel, now the Christian peoples. The ones Jesus came to save. Matthew 15:24
They went into captivity ca 721-715 BC. The house of Judah was conquered by Babylon 135 years later.
Note that the period of each Houses exile is for a set time. Ezekiel 4:4-6.

 

[Davidpt]

Careful reading of Ezekiel 38 & 39, makes it clear that Gog/Magog are not attacking the Jewish State of Israel. They are motivated to attack a people living peacefully; without military protection, or security walls and fences.
Why does God motivate Gog? Because He wants to demonstrate His Power of protection to His faithful peoples, Ezekiel 38:23, Joel 2:20


Quite unlike the Israeli's, who rely on their own strength and have no acknowledgment of God, or need for His help.

This Prophecy is for the House of Israel, now the Christian peoples. The ones Jesus came to save. Matthew 15:24
They went into captivity ca 721-715 BC. The house of Judah was conquered by Babylon 135 years later.
Note that the period of each Houses exile is for a set time. Ezekiel 4:4-6.

Clearly, once Christ returns, only saved saints which will be including both Jew and Gentile Christians will be living in and occupying that region. There certainly won't be any unbelieving Jews still living there and occupying that region at that point. But that is as of the 2nd coming, and that the majority of Ezekiel 38-39, thus not all of it, yet the majority of it, is involving events prior to the 2nd coming. And it's involving God still hiding His face from His people, the house of Israel, until He executes His judgment on Gog and multitude. But instead of it being about them you want it be about you for some reason, where I can't seem to figure out why?

 

[Keraz]

And it's involving God still hiding His face from His people, the house of Israel, until He executes His judgment on Gog and multitude. But instead of it being about them you want it be about you for some reason

You are a Christian. Can you see the Lords face?
No; we believers have to trust Jesus for our salvation, despite there being no physical proof of His existence. He is hidden from us and only after He Returns, will we see Him face to face.

But before Jesus Returns, many things must happen and the main thing is the clearing and cleansing of all the holy Land. It will be re-occupied by the Christian peoples, as many Prophesies confirm. Ezekiel 34:11-16 I will gather My sheep and settle them in the Land....
Romans 9:24-26.....in the very [same] place as the ancient Israelites were exiled from, there you will be called the sons of the Living God.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You can't remember your own posts, so I'm not about to waste my time remembering them for you.

If you are ging to lie about what I say, don't do it to my face. It simply makes yopu look foolish.

I know what I said and believe and I do not need one who reinterprets Gods Word reinterpreting mine.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

We Christians are the true Israelites of God, the Overcomers for Him.
I have been to Israel, its citizens are from every race and nation, a mixed ethnicity population. None of them can claim pure descent from Jacob.

If you cannot prove you are descended from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, you are not a true Israelite no matter how you wish to twist Gods Word.

I have been to Israel as well. and it matters not a whit if you can identify an Israeli or not. God can and that isa what matters. You ropinion is irrelavent.

It is the theory of a rapture to heaven and a general Jewish redemption, that rewrites the Bible. Those false ideas are never said to happen in the Bible and anyone who believes them, is deceived and deluded.

No, it is teh bible, and only you creating false accusations say a general redemption. I have told you multiple times how many Jews get saved in teh end. I can't help it if you feel teh need to reinterpret my words like you do Gods!

And what I declared about teh redemption of Israel was proven byu Gods word. without mystical reinterpretations as you have to do.

This demonstrates your ignorance of Bible facts.
The House of Israel consists of the ten Northern tribes. The House of Judah [and Benjamin], are the Jews.

Wello I also look ahead as it says in Ezekiel 37 when
god ends teh human seperation of Israel and Judah and god restores all 12 tribes under the name Israel.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No, they are all Christians. The righteous dead of the OT would naturally meet Christ and they would of course accept the Messiah the OT spoke about.

So show from Scripture where the OT saints are called Christians and part of the body of Christ. show where they were Baptized in the Holy spirit. Which is what the bible says is required to become part of the body of Christ.

 

[Keraz]

Isaiah 52:1-2 Awake, Awake Zion, put on your strength! Jerusalem, Holy city, put on your splendid garments, for the heathen and unclean will never again enter you. Arise, captive city- shake off the dust and loosen your bonds.

Isaiah 52:3-6 The Lord says: You were sold, but no price was paid and without payment, you will be redeemed. My people were captives in Assyria and Egypt, but now, what do I find? My people in exile and My name reviled constantly. But on the Day that I save My people, they will know My name and know that it is I, the Lord, who speaks. Here I am!

Isaiah 52:7-9 The bringer of good news announces deliverance, proclaiming to Zion: Your Lord has become King! You who keep watch, raise your voices and shout with joy, for you will see the Lord return to Zion. The Lord has comforted His people and redeemed Jerusalem.

Isaiah 52:10 The Lord has bared His holy arm and all the world will see the deliverance of His people.

Isaiah 52:11-12 Go out, leave Babylon behind, touch nothing unclean – keep pure, you that carry the holy vessels. But you will not flee in urgent haste or leave like fugitives, for the Lord will go before you and He will be your rearguard.

Isaiah 52:13 My servant will achieve success, He will be honoured and exalted.
Isaiah 52:14 The time was when many despised you, My people, just as My servant [Jesus] is despised and rejected. So He will cover many nations and what they were not told, they will then understand.
Reference: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged

V 1-6 Jerusalem; cleansed and made holy by the terrible Day of the Lord’s wrath, the Sixth Seal devastation of the Middle East. His people, Christian Israelites, redeemed and protected. Isaiah 51:11 Note: captives in Assyria, refers to the ten Northern tribes, but we know from the N.T. that true believers from every nation and language are deemed to be Israelite’s. Romans 9:6-9 & 24-26

V 7-9 ‘You who keep watch, will see the Lord return to Zion’ This proves that His holy people are there, in the Land, before the Return of Jesus. Revelation 13:7

V 10 The Lord has bared His holy arm, Shown His strength, on His Day of wrath and vengeance. Isaiah 63:1-6, Jeremiah 12:14, Deut. 32:40-42
V 11-12 His people – leave your homes, the Lord will guide you. [in the same way as He did for ancient Israel] Do not bring anything that will defile you. You will travel to the Promised Land in style and march with joy and thanksgiving. Isaiah 30:29, Jeremiah 31:8-9, Isaiah 40:29-31
You that carry the Holy vessels…..You people who keep the faith, fulfill your destiny. The Temple will be rebuilt, the Ark and all the Temple treasures will be placed in it. Ezekiel 43:1-12, Zechariah 6:15, Isaiah 60:7

V 13-14 Those peoples who have not received the Gospel will be told the truth.

 

[Keraz]

Deuteronomy 32:36-42 The Lord will judge His people and have compassion on His servants, for He will see that their strength has gone, all are affected. He will say: where are your false gods, those false idols in which you trusted? Let them be your protection! See now that I, the Lord, am HE – beside Me there is no other God. I hold the power of life and death. I swear: as I live forever that I will sharpen My flashing sword and set My hand to judgement to punish My enemies, then My vengeance will fall upon My foes. I shall make My arrows drunk with blood, My sword will devour flesh, the blood of the slain and the captives along with the enemy leaders.

Deuteronomy 32:43 Rejoice with His people, you nations, for the Lord will avenge the blood of His servants. He will take vengeance on His enemies and punish all those who hate Him and will cleanse His peoples Land. Jeremiah 12:14. Zephaniah 1:14-18

Deuteronomy 33:1-5 This is the blessing that Moses pronounced on the Israelites before his death. The Lord came from Sinai, He appeared and shone out from the South. With Him were multitudes of His holy people, streaming along at His right hand. Truly, He loves His people and blesses His holy ones. They receive instruction, the Law that Moses gave us, as our possession for all Israel. Then, when all the tribal leaders assembled, a leader arose in the Land.
Reference: Revised English Bible. Some verses abridged.

The Lord will judge his people and have compassion on His servants. His servants; who are now every faithful Christian; people from every race, nation and language. 1 Peter 4:12, Romans 9:24-26,

their strength has gone – Isaiah 17:4-6 & 9 On that Day Israel [now the Christian peoples] will lose their strength and prosperity. On that day, strong cities will be abandoned, like those of your enemies of old that were deserted at the Israelites approach. Cities will be uninhabitable – no food, power or water.

those false idols in which you trusted – people today put their faith in materialism, atheism or a ‘rapture’ escape out of the test all must face. Micah 5:10-15

My vengeance will fall upon My foes – The great and terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, prophesied over 100 times in the Bible. It is the next action of the Lord on earth, which results in the ‘cleansing of the Land’. By the means of His ‘flashing sword ‘, an explosion of the suns surface. Isaiah 30:26a, Malachi 4:1,

the enemy leaders – As the enemy leaders prepare their weapons, Psalms 7:12-16, Isaiah 21:2 – Elam & Media = Iran, ‘they are swept away by a whirlwind ‘. Habakkuk 3:14, Psalms 83, Jeremiah 49:35-37

The Lord appears to His people – The Lord’s Right Hand, that is Jesus, Psalms 110, will lead ‘the multitude of His people’, from every tribe, race, nation and language, Revelation 7:9, into all of the Holy Land in the same way as He did for the ancient Israelites. 1 Corinthians 10:4, Jeremiah 31:8-9, Isaiah 49:8-11

they receive instruction – True prophets and priests will teach them the right Laws and the correct ordinances. Isaiah 66:21, Malachi 2:7

Then a leader arose – Proof that all this happens before the Return of Jesus for His Millennium reign. Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11, Ezekiel 40 to 48