There is only one true church

[Marvelloustime]

The hyprocrisy of it all , did you say of it all . IS that a so called system within Christendom itself
now leads this people right into the lie that the christain truth is not better than any other religoins truth .
JESUS has BEEN DENIED . because the last time i checked
HE is THE TRUTH , the WAY and the LIFE .
WHO does GOD the FATHER testify of , JESUS the CHRIST
WHO does the SPIRIT testify of < JESUS the CHRIST .
GOD is the TRUTH , HIS SPIRIT IS TRUTH , HIS WORD is TRUTH .
I do not see these other religoins TESTIFY of the dire need TO BELIEVE ON HIM . But the SPIRIT DO , GOD the Father did
JESUS did .
JESUS is the ONLY way to the FATHER . These other religoins DO NOT KNOW the WAY or have the WAY .
SO how on earth can their truth EVEN BE TRUTH , OF GOD , OF THE SPIRIT . and the answer is , ITS NOT .
ALL these other religoins walk in darkness .
What they NEED is JESUS THE CHRIST and they sure aint hearing that message
when main leaders now say Our truth is not better than their truth . THAT cometh of another spirit
that spirit DENIES JESUS is the CHRIST , IT DENIES the truth that one must BELIEVE ON HIM . SO IT AINT coming OFGOD .

@amigo de christo

 

[Behold]

If you believe what Christians have believed and have taught in all generations, then you're built upon the Apostles.

There are those who believe that the "cult of Mary" is the "true" Church.

And then there are the the born again, who understand that the "church" is the "body of Christ" and they are the "Temple of the Holy Spirit".

This is every born again CHRISTian.

The best way to understand this......is... had there been only one person on earth, and Jesus died for them..

A.) They are the CHURCH......they are the "body of Christ".........they are the "temple of the Holy Spirit".

Now, multiply that by BILLIONS, and you have the same "church"...its EACH INDIVIDUAL, who is Born again.

 

[RedFan]

There are those who believe that the "cult of Mary" is the "true" Church.

And then there are the the born again, who understand that the "church" is the "body of Christ" and they are the "Temple of the Holy Spirit".

This is every born again CHRISTian.

The best way to understand this......is... had there been only one person on earth, and Jesus died for them..

A.) They are the CHURCH......they are the "body of Christ".........they are the "temple of the Holy Spirit".

Now, multiply that by BILLIONS, and you have the same "church"...its EACH INDIVIDUAL, who is Born again.

Although I am not Catholic, I can't imagine that Catholics would disagree with most of what you say. (The "cult of Mary" aside, of course.) But they may view "born again" somewhat differently from you.

 

[Behold]

Although I am not Catholic,

If you are going to answer for the "cult of Mary" then you should learn something about the "cult of Mary".

I can't imagine that Catholics would disagree with most of what you say.

They will absolutely disagree, because their theology, is that they are the Church........the collective "cult of mary"... .

See, they teach that for you to be a real CHRISTian, you are supposed to be a CATHOLIC.

That is not the same as "as per each born again believer".....is the CHRISTian.

Also "the cult of mary" teaches that there is no Salvation, unless water baptism is a part of it...

This is their "doctrine of devils" as found in their Satanic bible version the "Douay Rheims", that teaches in John 3.. that you are..

"Born again.......By WATER"....

And that is a Satanic Lie, that is their BIBLE VERSE and their LITERAL Theology.

Whereas the true spiritual birth, has nothing to do with water.....as a person is born again by the SPIRIT of GOD.......not by water, not by works..

So, if you ever find a Real Catholic, they will give you a lesson in Catholicism... whereby they will teach you that without WATER, there is no "born again".

Now, tell that to someone who is born again in a Prison, or on a Death Bed, or in a Country where Christianity is not allowed.
Tell all those Born again Christians......that "no, you needed water baptism, as that is what the "cult of mary" teaches"

And that is of course, a BIg FAT LIE.

But they may view "born again" somewhat differently from you.

No kidding.
You are correct.

 

[Behold]

(The "cult of Mary" aside, of course.)

Im not making this up.....

"Cult of : Mary"..
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[RedFan]

I think Catholics distinguish worshiping Mary from honoring Mary -- and claim to do only the latter. At least that's the party line from the clergy and the intellectuals in the RCC. The rank and file Catholic likely can't tell the difference.

 

[Behold]

I think Catholics distinguish worshiping Mary from honoring Mary -- and claim to do only the latter. At least that's the party line from the clergy and the intellectuals in the RCC. The rank and file Catholic likely can't tell the difference.

Take away Mary and Water Baptism and the Catholic cult dies.

No other Cult has Mary flying to heaven in her dead body... "Ascension Day"... Festival

No other Cult has "Mary and Jesus together in heaven harvesting Souls"...

If you study the early history of the "cult of Mary", you'll discover that its a simple redirect of the Pagan Goddess "Diana", into Catholicism.

Example...

"queen of heaven" is the Catholic Theology, regarding Mary.. and the "queen of heaven" is one of the titles given by early "pre-Christian" Pagans to "Diana" the Goddess.

also..

"perpetual virgin".. is what the "cult Of Mary: = Claim regarding Mary, and "pre-Christian" Pagans had already given that title to "Diana" the Goddess.

and on and on... and it just gets worse the more you actually do the STUDY, and find out just how much of THAT STUFF, is The Catholic Church.

Also,. is any one so self deceived ... to actually want to pretend that this is "devotion" and not "worship".

What verse in a bible says to pray to a PLASTIC MARY, sitting on a THRONE ?

Thats NOT just devotion.........not at all.

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[amigo de christo]

The Catholic Church alone has the fullness of Christ's teaching. It alone can trace its roots directly back to Christ.

Really, that’s why so many priests and nuns were involved in perverted sexual activities with young boys and girls..I say “ SOME” .thats how divine a church of Christ’s it is.

Oh the “ HYPOCRISY” of it all.

This crock was sold by men years later for power and control .
I challenge all today to examine peter verses any pope that ever ruled . There is a book written
by a catholic who even defends catholocism . he listed the popes .
What i want us to do is compare them popes of the R double C
to peter who they claim was the first pope .
Peter who told cornelious to get up he was but a man . Every pope i have learned about
desired the worship and pre emeince of man . As they had rings on fingers
were decked up , called most HOLY FATHER , MOST HOLY REVERAND .
having men to kneel before them to kiss their ring .
PETER rebuked when men tried to kneel before him . THESE POPES do no such thing .
JESUS told us who to beware of and it seems the RCC didnt get that message .
Beware of men WHO LOVE FLATTERING TITLES , who make BROAD THEIR CLOTHES and etc .
SO , I DO AS JESUS SAID , I BEWARE THEM and refuse to heed such men .
ON another thread i gave my name and title to another . FODSBGGIJC. flea of dog saved by GODS grace in JESUS CHRIST .
I give you and everyone here this challenge . Go and behold any and every single post i have written on this christain site
and you see if i ever have once came in with a title of prophet , priest , preacher or anything .
I have come to POINT to ONE NAME and GLORIFY that one name . I am but a mere wee man
who by the grace of GOD has learned and loved the bible . Though i refuse to cliam i know it all .
But what i do know , EVEN THAT CAME OF GOD . the desire to please him , EVEN that came of GOD .
The desire and love for GOD , EVEN that came of GOD .
Anything good i have came of GOD . And about the only thing i can take credit for
concering my salvation , WELL it didnt come of me , IT CAME OF GOD . The very desires i now have
to point to CHRIST alone , to correct sin and error , EVEN that came of GOD .
SO if you all want to truly know what good came of me , Allow me some parting words , NONE OF IT DID
i was the worst of the worst heading in the wrong direction , blind and in love with sin
AND GOD TOOK MERCY and HE DREW ME , HE CHANGED me . HE leads me . Even now is evil
still present within the flesh , EVEN the desire to fight against it COMETH OF GOD
I can take ZERO credit for my salvation , BUT I SURE KNOW WHO TO POINT TOO and even that came by HIS grace that workes
in me . I see nothing good in me, BUT WHAT GOD has put in me . This lamb has come
by the grace of GOD to point this church age BACK in the right direction sister . and it aint cause i be any better than any of them either .
ITS cause I was called to do so . THERE is no hope in man , BUT THERE BE PLENTY OF HOPE IN GOD and IN HIS CHRIST
and EVERY LOVELY WORD HE EVER SAID . they can keep all titles of men . MY desire
is not to be seen as something great , but rather that GOD BE GLORIFIED and souls be saved .

 

[amigo de christo]

Im not making this up.....

"Cult of : Mary"..
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i was about to type what a joke the man kneels before porcelian .
But there is nothing funny about this . You take a good long look at that man
and scores and tons of others who had adopted that mindset . THEN i want you to weep all night for them poor LOST souls
whom man has trapped under delusion so as man can have the pre emeince and the glory of men .
LOOK at it . take a good long look at this abomination . If mary could speak from heaven
if peter or others could speak from heaven they had warned this group to WORSHIP GOD and not man .
The delusion of all delusions sent to gather the false of christendom and all false religoins
has come to do just that . and it came FROM THIS HARLOTS chambers . TAKE A GOOD long look at it .
Now for power and control that very harlot denies not just in heart but in lips
the very DIRE NEED to have beleived on JESUS the CHRIST as it spouts out to all through interfaith dialgoue
the christain truth is no better than the muslims truth or any other religoins truth . ANTI CHRIST . its all headed
to the LIE . it always was . interfaith is OF THE DEVIL , finding common ground is of the devil
and its gonna merge this people as one under THE DEVIL and its beast . only THEY Too busy thinking its love and of GOD .

 

[amigo de christo]

I think Catholics distinguish worshiping Mary from honoring Mary -- and claim to do only the latter. At least that's the party line from the clergy and the intellectuals in the RCC. The rank and file Catholic likely can't tell the difference.

if our honor dishonors GOD then it is no honor this lamb will do .
If our love trods under foot HIS words , then our love is of the world and darkness .
IF we do all to please man and to pander to man , THEN WE ARE NOT the servant of CHRIST .
rather odd i see a love , a tolerance , an etc that sure seems all about pandering to man to please man
to gain man , to gain numbers . that love will never lead them to GOD but rather it has led them all
to the upmost rebellion against God . cause i sure dont seem to see much
love for the TRUTH coming from these who sure seem to love and hug on just about anything and its errors they dont correct .
They holler love all day
they holler tolerance all day
But what has this love and tolerance they holler all day led them against . TRUTH , THE WORDS OF GOD in said bible
and any and all who use them words to correct the very sin they so love .

 

[Behold]

Really, that’s why so many priests and nuns were involved in perverted sexual activities with young boys and girls..I say “ SOME” .thats how divine a church of Christ’s it is.

The "cult of Mary" creates Male pedophiles.
This is why the history of this Cult, is LIVID with "gay priests" and "cover ups" by Popes, Bishops, for a very long time.

How does the "cult of Mary" create Male Sex Offenders, they call "Priests"/ ??

Simple... they force them to repress their God Given Sexual Urges, for LIFE< by not allowing them to Marry a Woman and have normal sexual relations.

And even the NT, says that Peter had a WIFE........as those are PAUL's words.., yet this CULT of MARY, denies marriage regarding their Priests, and these men, many, find outlets for this cult enforced sexual repression, and that is why so many Priests are child molesters.
They are created to be this by a "doctrine of devils".. that is a Catholic RULE regarding their Priests.

Paul teaches that "forbidding to MARRY", is a "doctrine of DEVILS".. and that is just one more found in the "cult of Mary".

 

[Marvelloustime]

if our honor dishonors GOD then it is no honor this lamb will do .
If our love trods under foot HIS words , then our love is of the world and darkness .
IF we do all to please man and to pander to man , THEN WE ARE NOT the servant of CHRIST .
rather odd i see a love , a tolerance , an etc that sure seems all about pandering to man to please man
to gain man , to gain numbers . that love will never lead them to GOD but rather it has led them all
to the upmost rebellion against God . cause i sure dont seem to see much
love for the TRUTH coming from these who sure seem to love and hug on just about anything and its errors they dont correct .
They holler love all day
they holler tolerance all day
But what has this love and tolerance they holler all day led them against . TRUTH , THE WORDS OF GOD in said bible
and any and all who use them words to correct the very sin they so love .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

The "cult of Mary" creates Male pedophiles.
This is why the history of this Cult, is LIVID with "gay priests" and "cover ups" by Popes, Bishops, for a very long time.

How does the "cult of Mary" create Male Sex Offenders, they call "Priests"/ ??

Simple... they force them to repress their God Given Sexual Urges, for LIFE< by not allowing them to Marry a Woman and have normal sexual relations.

And even the NT, says that Peter had a WIFE........as those are PAUL's words.., yet this CULT of MARY, denies marriage regarding their Priests, and these men, many, find outlets for this cult enforced sexual repression, and that is why so many Priests are child molesters.
They are created to be this by a "doctrine of devils".. that is a Catholic RULE regarding their Priests.

Paul teaches that "forbidding to MARRY", is a "doctrine of DEVILS".. and that is just one more found in the "cult of Mary".

suckle not of the teet of interfaith and heed not the cry
to find common ground . That which is of anti christ has come to gather the tribes as one
under a lie that leadeth to perdition .

 

[RedFan]

Paul teaches that "forbidding to MARRY", is a "doctrine of DEVILS"..

Let me push back just a bit. When I look at 1 Tim. 4:1-3, I see Paul ranting against an ascetic cult which would denounce the appetites of the flesh and forbid its members to marry. Obviously Catholics are not forbidden to marry. If Catholic men choose to be priests, which is their free choice, they must refrain from marriage -- but that is not what Paul was condemning in 1 Tim. 4:1-3. We know this because he actually commended the individual free choice of celibacy in 1 Cor 7:1-2, 7-10. And 1 Cor 7:32-34 is where the Catholic doctrine of priestly celibacy is rooted.

 

[Keiw]

Once again, completely not true but thank you for your opinion.

You did not answer my question: Do you honor her?

Curious Mary

Christina L is correct--Mary was a sinner like all mortals, thus paid the wages of sin= death.

 

[Keiw]

Let me push back just a bit. When I look at 1 Tim. 4:1-3, I see Paul ranting against an ascetic cult which would denounce the appetites of the flesh and forbid its members to marry. Obviously Catholics are not forbidden to marry. If Catholic men choose to be priests, which is their free choice, they must refrain from marriage -- but that is not what Paul was condemning in 1 Tim. 4:1-3. We know this because he actually commended the individual free choice of celibacy in 1 Cor 7:1-2, 7-10. And 1 Cor 7:32-34 is where the Catholic doctrine of priestly celibacy is rooted.

Peter was married, They claim he was the ist pope( thats untrue) thus not allowing marriage by the ones taking the lead is against Gods will.

 

[RedFan]

Peter was married, They claim he was the ist pope( thats untrue) thus not allowing marriage by the ones taking the lead is against Gods will.

Yup, he was married. Yup, the RCC thinks he was the first Pope. The RCC instituted the clergy celibacy rule much later. But I see no inconsistency between Peter's marital status and the ban on married priests instituted centuries later.

And I can't accept your conclusion that "thus not allowing marriage by the ones taking the lead is against Gods will." I don't know God's will on marriage of clergy. What I do know is that your word "thus" -- implying that the latter follows logically from the former -- doesn't fit here. God could will it either way consistently with the Petrine-vs-priest matrimonial inconsistency -- if it is one (I just explained why I think it isn't).

 

[Keiw]

Yup, he was married. Yup, the RCC thinks he was the first Pope. The RCC instituted the clergy celibacy rule much later. But I see no inconsistency between Peter's marital status and the ban on married priests instituted centuries later.

And I can't accept your conclusion that "thus not allowing marriage by the ones taking the lead is against Gods will." I don't know God's will on marriage of clergy. What I do know is that your word "thus" -- implying that the latter follows logically from the former -- doesn't fit here. God could will it either way consistently with the Petrine-vs-priest matrimonial inconsistency -- if it is one (I just explained why I think it isn't).

Jesus would never do a thing vs his Fathers will. Jesus chose Peter a married man to be one who takes the lead( spiritual teacher)--Other apostles were most likely married as well. Catholicism screwed it all up=2Thess 2:3

 

[BreadOfLife]

Catholicism created the trinity God in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople. When they added the holy spirit to a godhead for the very first time. It does not exist--Isaiah 44:6= I am YHWH(Jehovah) beside-ME( not we) there is no other God.

Apparently, you don’t understand the purpose of Councils.
Allow me to educate you . . .

Church Councils are usually convened to address questions or controversies with regard to doctrines. When a doctrine comes into question, a Council is convened to define – no invent it. This was true for the very FIRST Council in Jerusalem in Acts 15 when they addressed the Judaizer controversy and all of the subsequent Councils.

The Council of Ephesus in 431 definiens the doctrine of the Hypostatic Union. The Councils of Rome (381), Hippo (392) and Carthage (397) answered the question of the Canon of Scripture.


As for your blasphemy that the Holy Spirit isn’t God – the Bible disagrees with you ., . .

Acts 5:3-4
But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the HOLY SPIRIT and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? "While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to GOD."

The Father is God
Eph. 4:6, Psalm 68:5, Mal. 2:10, 2 Cor. 1:3-4, John 3:16, John 8:41, 1 Thess. 3:13

The Son is God
Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 9:6, Matt. 4:7, John 1:1, John 1:3, John 8:58, John 10:30, John 14:9, John 20:28, 2 Corinthians 4:4, Phil. 2:6, Col. 2:9, 1 Tim. 3:16, Heb. 1:8, Titus 2:13

The Holy Spirit is God
John 14:16-18, Luke 12:10, 2 Cor. 3:17, 2 Cor. 13:5, John 14:23, Acts 5:3-4

 

[BreadOfLife]

Without getting into the forbidden topic, Trinitarians are the only ones who say that Christianity is Trinitarian.

There are many Christian non-Trinitarian groups: Christadelphians, Unitarians, "Oneness" Pentecostals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and others.

No - those would be quasi-Christian groups.

Christianity is Trinitarian by definition and has been so from the beginning. . . .