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BreadOfLife

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This is not bearing false witness.........unless you think that God just threw out his law against graven images. You are the ones who bow before Mary statues, pray to Mary before statues and parade around with her in these stupid Marian processions. Like I said only the saved can truly see. you cant because you arent saved
The Commandment against graven images was the WORSHIP of them as gods.

God Himself commanded Moses to create 2 golden images of Angels to place above the Ark. The people bowed and prostrated themselves before if.

God also commanded Moses to create a Bronze Serpent and place it on a pole, so that when the people gazed upon it – they were healed.

They didn’t WORSHIP either image.
 

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Veneration is not worship, my ignorant friend.

Astronauts and sports figures are venerated.
God is worshipped, Einstein.

Uhhh, "LOL . . .
Yeah it is worship my ignorant friend. God doesnt differentiate. And its also different than the veneration of sports (or whatever) figures. You are truly blind
 

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The Commandment against graven images was the WORSHIP of them as gods.

God Himself commanded Moses to create 2 golden images of Angels to place above the Ark. The people bowed and prostrated themselves before if.

God also commanded Moses to create a Bronze Serpent and place it on a pole, so that when the people gazed upon it – they were healed.

They didn’t WORSHIP either image.
Ecuse me but you do worship your Satanic Queen of heaven as a goddess
 

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Yeah it is worship my ignorant friend. God doesnt differentiate. And its also different than the veneration of sports (or whatever) figures. You are truly blind
He absolutely DOES differentiate.

God doesn’t want us to exalt ourselves.
He rewards his faithful servants with exalting them (Luke 1:52, Luke 14:7-11).

He told the Apostles not to exhalt themselves – but they were venerated by the faithful. The bones of Elisha were venerated and instrumental in bringing a dead man back to life (2 Kings 13:21).

Acts 15:16

As a result, people brought the sick into the streets and laid them on beds and mats so that at least Peter’s shadow might fall on some of them as he passed by.


Did God “curse” these people for venerating Peter?
YOUR
problem is that you are ignorant of Scripture – yet full of judgmental hatred . . .
 

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Spoken like a true follower of your false prophet/founder - Charles Taze Russell, who erroneously state, along with leaders of his cult that -
- 1897 - 'Jesus returned to earth in 1874'
- 1908 - 'Jesus' earthly reign will begin in 1914'
- 1918 - "Millions now living will never die"

RUN firm that cult and return home to Christ’s Church.

Matt. 7:15-16

“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them.
Yes they did err. They had error filled trinity translating to use. Years of study by many men, they uncovered truths and made corrections.
They never did a false prophecy. Here are some false prophecies= God is a trinity---Some go to eternal suffering after death. All the rest go to heaven at death= all false teachings-NEVER corrected.
Yes by there fruit you will know them=love amongst themselves-Thus when told to stand on both sides of wars of hatred killing each other, the real followers of Jesus outright refuse and go to prison or even death first. The ones who throw Jesus away stand on both sides killing each other in hatred, all the while the blind guides tell both sides God is on their side and pray to the same God on both sides=pure hypocrisy. So yes all of creation saw who had fruit at The rev war, the civil war,( ww1, ww2.
I see you are Catholic-- Your blind guides including your Pope allowed young Catholic men to kill for Adolf Hitler, kill young Catholic men standing on the other side.= throwing Jesus away to appease wicked mortal men. Catholicism leaders signed the concordance with Adolf promising to vote him into power as well= pure darkness.
 
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This is not bearing false witness.........unless you think that God just threw out his law against graven images. You are the ones who bow before Mary statues, pray to Mary before statues and parade around with her in these stupid Marian processions. Like I said only the saved can truly see. you cant because you arent saved.

This is not bearing false witness.........unless you think that God just threw out his law against graven images. You are the ones who bow before Mary statues, pray to Mary before statues and parade around with her in these stupid Marian processions. Like I said only the saved can truly see. you cant because you arent saved
How do you know who is saved or not saved are what authority do you have to judge who is saved and who is not saved? You are not Jesus Christ and even your Bible states that it is not up to humans to judge others. As far as graven images, if you read the rest of it, it states not to create them and worship the image itself as a God. In the Catholic Church, the statues of Mary and the saints as well as pictures of them are to honor them just like there are statues of our Founding Fathers in the United States in honor of them. Mount Rushmore is one example of honor and recognition to the first four presidents of the United States. It is also the exact same thing as recognizing someone who is Valedictorian or Neil Armstrong as being the first man on the moon. We pray for Mary and the Saints to pray to God for us and intercede for us. It is only sinful if you make a statue and believe the statue itself is a God with divine powers, in which we Catholics DO NOT do. As for me, I believe what Martin Luther and John Calvin preached during the Reformation in the 1500s is heresy and is something that I completely reject as false teachings. Not to mention, there is a statue at Christ of the Ozarks in Eureka Springs, Arkansas of Jesus Christ himself. The first commandment already prohibits worshiping idol so the second commandment is thou shalt not take the Lord thy God's Name in vain.. The Nineth commandment of thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife and tenth commandment of thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods is two separate commandments because someone's wife is a separate person and not property. As far as the question, "Am I saved" is concerned, this is something you have to take up with God and pray to God about and get the answer from God himself.
 
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Ecuse me but you do worship your Satanic Queen of heaven as a goddess
Completely not true Christina. Catholics, and some of your Protestant brethren, honor Mary for whom she is; The mother of God who is full of grace and blessed among women (Luke 1). We do not worship her and to call her the "Satanic queen of heaven" is concerning.

Do you honor her?
 

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Veneration is not worship, same as saying, the devil is not satan
According to the Webster’s dictionary

veneration​

noun

ven·er·a·tion ˌve-nə-ˈrā-shən

Synonyms of veneration
1
: respect or awe inspired by the dignity, wisdom, dedication, or talent of a person

2
: the act of venerating

3
: the condition of one that is venerated

We venerate those who are and were in the military that served our country and fought for our freedom as well as our fallen soldiers. Veneration is NOT worship.
 
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According to the Webster’s dictionary

veneration​

noun

ven·er·a·tion ˌve-nə-ˈrā-shən

Synonyms of veneration
1
: respect or awe inspired by the dignity, wisdom, dedication, or talent of a person

2
: the act of venerating

3
: the condition of one that is venerated

We venerate those who are and were in the military that served our country and fought for our freedom. Veneration is NOT worship.
Don't play games with semantics for you full well know that you pray to these statues and to Mary and the rosary beads and many that other evil things come from the Vatican.
And do not try to say 'no' for i was conceived and born and raised FULL TIME Roman Catholic.
i have many many RCC relatives who pray to dumb idols that have feet but cannot move, they have a mouth but cannot speak and they have eyes that cannot see = "so is everyone who bows to these idols"

Venerating a living person who laid done his/her life for our freedom is called 'heroic' and we acknowledge their heroism.
But we NEVER elevate that person to pray to them.
If you do you are not walking in The Faith of the Son of God.

RCC idolators praying to a dumb dead statue

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Yes they did err. They had error filled trinity translating to use. Years of study by many men, they uncovered truths and made corrections.
They never did a false prophecy. Here are some false prophecies= God is a trinity---Some go to eternal suffering after death. All the rest go to heaven at death= all false teachings-NEVER corrected.
Yes by there fruit you will know them=love amongst themselves-Thus when told to stand on both sides of wars of hatred killing each other, the real followers of Jesus outright refuse and go to prison or even death first. The ones who throw Jesus away stand on both sides killing each other in hatred, all the while the blind guides tell both sides God is on their side and pray to the same God on both sides=pure hypocrisy. So yes all of creation saw who had fruit at The rev war, the civil war,( ww1, ww2.
I see you are Catholic-- Your blind guides including your Pope allowed young Catholic men to kill for Adolf Hitler, kill young Catholic men standing on the other side.= throwing Jesus away to appease wicked mortal men. Catholicism leaders signed the concordance with Adolf promising to vote him into power as well= pure darkness.
So, your founder spewed false prophecy. It only takes ONE false prophecy to make a false Prophet. Charles Taze Russell was a false prophet who started a false religion.

As for ending slavery with the Civil War and defeating the evil of Hitler’s Nazi terror during WWII – these noble causes were blessed by God.

If the opposing side was praying to God for their evil cause – THEY were the hypocrites. God does NOT ordain evil.
 

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Don't play games with semantics for you full well know that you pray to these statues and to Mary and the rosary beads and many that other evil things come from the Vatican.
And do not try to say 'no' for i was conceived and born and raised FULL TIME Roman Catholic.
i have many many RCC relatives who pray to dumb idols that have feet but cannot move, they have a mouth but cannot speak and they have eyes that cannot see = "so is everyone who bows to these idols"

Venerating a living person who laid done his/her life for our freedom is called 'heroic' and we acknowledge their heroism.
But we NEVER elevate that person to pray to them.
If you do you are not walking in The Faith of the Son of God.

RCC idolators praying to a dumb dead statue

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Once again – the Commandment is against serving the idol and worshipping them.

We NEITHER serve NOR worship statues of Mary or any other saint. We ask Mary to intercede on our behalf as the Bible commands members of the Body of Christ to do so. (James 5:16,
Rom. 15:30-32, 2 Thess. 3:1).

If you spent as much time studying the Bible as you do spreading falsehoods about the Catholic Church - you might be able to have an intelligent discussion . . .
 
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Once again – the Commandment is against serving the idol and worshipping them.

We NEITHER serve NOR worship statues of Mary or any other saint. We ask Mary to intercede on our behalf as the Bible commands members of the Body of Christ to do so. (James 5:16,
Rom. 15:30-32, 2 Thess. 3:1).

If you spent as much time studying the Bible as you do spreading falsehoods about the Catholic Church - you might be able to have an intelligent discussion . . .
a picture says a thousand words = lying is a sin

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So, your founder spewed false prophecy. It only takes ONE false prophecy to make a false Prophet. Charles Taze Russell was a false prophet who started a false religion.

As for ending slavery with the Civil War and defeating the evil of Hitler’s Nazi terror during WWII – these noble causes were blessed by God.

If the opposing side was praying to God for their evil cause – THEY were the hypocrites. God does NOT ordain evil.
Actually he erred by trying to put a date on a real prophecy that was foretold by God.
If the leaders of Jesus' religion told the young men not to kill for a sicko power mad murderer=Adolf Hitler-He wouldn't have had enough armies to attack anyone. Oh they did=The Jw,s refused to stand on both sides and went to prison and into the concentration camps and refused to kill each other by standing up for Jesus no matter what men thought. All the while the ones that threw Jesus away and stood on both sides killing each other in hatred showed the world they do not know Jesus. And their clergy's lied to both sides and told them God was on their side, all the while showing all creation one of the biggest hypocrisy's ever witnessed when they prayed to the same God on both sides. (1John 3:10-12--no slaughtering of ones brothers,
No follower of Christ would make a brother created by the same God a slave to begin with. Only ones in darkness did, mislead by blind guides. There should have been no war over that atrocity if they listened to Jesus, but they don't.
 

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a picture says a thousand words = lying is a sin

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Ummm, NOT when being looked at by an ignorant person . . .

There's another old saying -
"Don't judge a book by its cover."
Tell me, Einstein - are these people "worhipping" odols?

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Ummm, NOT when being looked at by an ignorant person . . .

There's another old saying -
"Don't judge a book by its cover."
Tell me, Einstein - are these people "worhipping" odols?

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REALLY !!!

How horrible of you to use these pictures of relatives kneeling in sorrow to their deceased relatives/friends.

These pictures and motives has NOTHING to do with your RCC idolatry.
 

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Actually he erred by trying to put a date on a real prophecy that was foretold by God.
If the leaders of Jesus' religion told the young men not to kill for a sicko power mad murderer=Adolf Hitler-He wouldn't have had enough armies to attack anyone. Oh they did=The Jw,s refused to stand on both sides and went to prison and into the concentration camps and refused to kill each other by standing up for Jesus no matter what men thought. All the while the ones that threw Jesus away and stood on both sides killing each other in hatred showed the world they do not know Jesus. And their clergy's lied to both sides and told them God was on their side, all the while showing all creation one of the biggest hypocrisy's ever witnessed when they prayed to the same God on both sides. (1John 3:10-12--no slaughtering of ones brothers,
Matt. 22:23-25
At that time if anyone says to you,Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time.

Luke 22:36
He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.


Those who went to prison rather than fight the evil of the Nazis were cowardsnot noble men. They disobeyed God. There were some who would not fight but helped out in every other way they could by being medics and working in supply and other areas of the war effort.

Rom. 13:1-7

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad.


If YOU can’t figure out whose side God was on during WWII – your confusion goes a LOT deeper than just being part of the
Watchtower cult . . .
No follower of Christ would make a brother created by the same God a slave to begin with. Only ones in darkness did, mislead by blind guides. There should have been no war over that atrocity if they listened to Jesus, but they don't.
WHO said anything about slavery??

Stick
to the topic, Einstein . . .
 
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