There is only one true church

[BreadOfLife]

Luke 22 is about the Lords evening meal--Verses 29-30 assure its a covenant only to those who will sit on thrones. Only part of that little flock were present that night and partook.

WRONG.

Luke 22:29-30 is about a promise Jesus makes to His Apostles – His inner circle. This pertains t TJEM.

The Eucharist as a sacrament is NOT for an exclusive few but for ALL who follow and obey Christ.
John 6:53-57
Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. WHOEVER eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. WHOEVER eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.

This is why Paul wrote the following to the Corinthian congregation – and NOIT just a select few:
1 Cor. 11: 23-26
FOR I RECEIVED FROM THE LORD WHAT I ALSO PASSED ON TO YOU: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For WHENEVER YOU eat this bread and drink this cup, YOU proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

YOU have chosen to pervert His sacred words in typical pharisaical fashion have changed them to apply to a select few . . .

 

[Marymog]

I speak Gods truth. I have studied the bible over and over, religions, religious history, the teachings of Jesus, since 1961. How about you? There is 0 doubt in all creation, in every translation on earth the teachings of Jesus back my teachers all the way.

Who are your teachers?

I found a passage in Scripture that The Church speaks Gods Truth (1 Timothy 3:15). Is there a passage in Scripture that says YOU speak Gods truth?

I also found a passage that warns me of men like you; 2 Peter 3:16.

Mary

 

[Rxlx]

If you believe what Christians have believed and have taught in all generations, then you're built upon the Apostles. But if you're particular faith..what you think is so important to say, is something that only began to be said in 500 AD or in 1000 AD or in 1500 AD or in 1959 AD..whatever you're in, as good as it might be, is inadequate and is something less than the church of Christ. It isn't Apostolic. There is one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and that church has been teaching the gospel and preaching the Christian faith for 2000 years. It is evangelical, but not Protestant. It is Orthodox, but not Jewish. It is Catholic, but not Roman. It is not non-denominational, it is pre-denominational. It has been believed, taught, preserved, defended, and died for. It is the Faith that has established the universe. Proclaiming the Truth since 34 AD. The Church began on the day of Pentecost after Christ's resurrection.

But all catholics are told to worship idols of Ishtar of Babylon with baby Tammuz and try speak to the dead...
The TRUE CHURCH did begin at Pentecost - but it was Protestant in thought, word and deed - not Babylonian paganism rewrapped.

 

[Rxlx]

If you believe what Christians have believed and have taught in all generations, then you're built upon the Apostles. But if you're particular faith..what you think is so important to say, is something that only began to be said in 500 AD or in 1000 AD or in 1500 AD or in 1959 AD..whatever you're in, as good as it might be, is inadequate and is something less than the church of Christ. It isn't Apostolic. There is one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and that church has been teaching the gospel and preaching the Christian faith for 2000 years. It is evangelical, but not Protestant. It is Orthodox, but not Jewish. It is Catholic, but not Roman. It is not non-denominational, it is pre-denominational. It has been believed, taught, preserved, defended, and died for. It is the Faith that has established the universe. Proclaiming the Truth since 34 AD. The Church began on the day of Pentecost after Christ's resurrection.

I have to ask why pagans are allowed to post lies and false teachings on a CHRISTIANITY BOARD? Surely they should go post on a board dedicated to Lucifer...

 

[RedFan]

It is YOU who keeps stating that Paul used the word, “graphé” in 2 Thess. 2:15.

Show me where I said that even once.

 

[Rxlx]

Show me where I said that even once.

You posted it.

 

[RedFan]

You posted it.

Show me where.

 

[Johann]

Show me where I said that even once.

Romans 4:3 – "For what does the Scripture (γραφή) say? 'Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.'" (NKJV)

Romans 9:17 – "For the Scripture (γραφή) says to the Pharaoh, 'For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.'" (NKJV)

Romans 10:11 – "For the Scripture (γραφή) says, 'Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.'" (NKJV)

1 Timothy 5:18 – "For the Scripture (γραφή) says, 'You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain,' and, 'The laborer is worthy of his wages.'" (NKJV)

Galatians 3:8 – "And the Scripture (γραφή), foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, 'In you all the nations shall be blessed.'" (NKJV)

Much more--
J.

 

[RedFan]

Romans 4:3 – "For what does the Scripture (γραφή) say? 'Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.'" (NKJV)

Romans 9:17 – "For the Scripture (γραφή) says to the Pharaoh, 'For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.'" (NKJV)

Romans 10:11 – "For the Scripture (γραφή) says, 'Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.'" (NKJV)

1 Timothy 5:18 – "For the Scripture (γραφή) says, 'You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain,' and, 'The laborer is worthy of his wages.'" (NKJV)

Galatians 3:8 – "And the Scripture (γραφή), foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, 'In you all the nations shall be blessed.'" (NKJV)

Much more--
J.

I've been falsely accused multiple times of claiming that γραφή appears in 2 Thess. 2:15. I'd like one of my accusers to prove it.

 

[Johann]

I've been falsely accused multiple times of claiming that γραφή appears in 2 Thess. 2:15. I'd like one of my accusers to prove it.

Well-

2Th 2:15 So Ἄρα then, οὖν, brothers, ἀδελφοί, stand firm στήκετε, and καὶ hold fast κρατεῖτε to the τὰς traditions παραδόσεις that ἃς you were taught, ἐδιδάχθητε whether εἴτε by διὰ word, λόγου or εἴτε by δι’ letter ἐπιστολῆς from us. ἡμῶν.

You can show them WHERE the word graphe IS used @RedFan.
Johann.

 

[Keiw]

WRONG.

Luke 22:29-30 is about a promise Jesus makes to His Apostles – His inner circle. This pertains t TJEM.

The Eucharist as a sacrament is NOT for an exclusive few but for ALL who follow and obey Christ.
John 6:53-57
Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. WHOEVER eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. WHOEVER eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.

This is why Paul wrote the following to the Corinthian congregation – and NOIT just a select few:
1 Cor. 11: 23-26
FOR I RECEIVED FROM THE LORD WHAT I ALSO PASSED ON TO YOU: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For WHENEVER YOU eat this bread and drink this cup, YOU proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

YOU have chosen to pervert His sacred words in typical pharisaical fashion have changed them to apply to a select few . . .

The apostles are apart of the little flock, they will sit on thrones. The little flock is numbered=144,000( Rev 14:3)these are bought from the earth to rule as kings and priests alongside Jesus on thrones( Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6)= the anointed bride of Christ.
The great crowd(Rev 7:9) no man can number are the other sheep( John 10:16) they are not of that (fold( those who sit on thrones)

Its a major sin for the great crowd to partake.
Paul wrote to those of the little flock concerning partaking. He warned some are not worthy= the great crowd.

 

[Keiw]

Who are your teachers?

I found a passage in Scripture that The Church speaks Gods Truth (1 Timothy 3:15). Is there a passage in Scripture that says YOU speak Gods truth?

I also found a passage that warns me of men like you; 2 Peter 3:16.

Mary

Jesus is with the JW religion. Its why we are hated just as he said we would be= no part of this world = rejected, different, unaccepted= no pagan filled holiday celebrations, no voting for corrupt politicians. Refuse to stand on both sides of wars of hatred killing our own brothers in Christ for corrupt politicians. No drunkeness, drug addiction, fornication, adultery, homosexuality etc, etc.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Show me where I said that even once.

From YOUR post #827:
“2 Tim. 3:16, where Paul DOES mention graphē (= Scripture).”

From YOUR post #847:
“The ONLY thing I have been concerned with here -- and the thing you just can't seem to focus on, no matter how hard I try to focus you -- is the meaning of "graphe" in 2 Tim. 3:16. “

I've been falsely accused multiple times of claiming that γραφή appears in 2 Thess. 2:15. I'd like one of my accusers to prove it.

I haven't "falsely accused" you of anything.
YOU are a liiar . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

The apostles are apart of the little flock, they will sit on thrones. The little flock is numbered=144,000( Rev 14:3)these are bought from the earth to rule as kings and priests alongside Jesus on thrones( Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6)= the anointed bride of Christ.
The great crowd(Rev 7:9) no man can number are the other sheep( John 10:16) they are not of that (fold( those who sit on thrones)

Its a major sin for the great crowd to partake.
Paul wrote to those of the little flock concerning partaking. He warned some are not worthy= the great crowd.

And you have YET to show a SUNGLE verse that “forbid” the Eucharist to ANY member of the Body of Christ.

 

[Keiw]

And you have YET to show a SUNGLE verse that “forbid” the Eucharist to ANY member of the Body of Christ.

Luke 22:29-30= a covenant made to those who will sit on thrones.

 

[RedFan]

From YOUR post #827:
“2 Tim. 3:16, where Paul DOES mention graphē (= Scripture).”

From YOUR post #847:
“The ONLY thing I have been concerned with here -- and the thing you just can't seem to focus on, no matter how hard I try to focus you -- is the meaning of "graphe" in 2 Tim. 3:16. “

I haven't "falsely accused" you of anything.
YOU are a liiar . . .

Well, you cannot read. I asked you to show me where I said that Paul used the word “graphé” in 2 Thess. 2:15. And instead, you show me where I said Paul mentioned the word in 2 Tim. 3:16. What's wrong with your eyesight?

 

[Brakelite]

There are several very clear identifying characteristics of the final church that is to be harvested from the earth at the second coming. They are the true bride. The ones who want and have accepted the invitation to the marriage, and are made white by the blood of the Lamb. They aren't engaged in the deceptions being carried out by Babylon the Great, that harlot and global apostate church that is in union with and having unlawful relations with the kings and queens of the world. This final church is described as the remnant. They are final example of the original Apostolic church. A smaller comparatively insignificant church financially and politically than Babylon, but is global like her, and also that keeps the commandments of God and has the faith of Jesus. They are preaching an end time message described as the everlasting gospel. This gospel message teaches that the judgement has already begun, and that man should return to worshipping the Creator. It would seem that evolution by this time is a majority opinion.
They proclaim that Babylon is fallen from her former right relationship with Jesus, by then a global conglomerate of fallen churches, Catholic and protestant, as well as religions that have surrendered their independence to the harlot. Yet God has a people in Babylon, and they are called out of her to join the faithful remnant, who are not aligned with the political powers of this world, but their trust is in the Lord their God, and their hope is in His promises that the true gospel is the real power of God unto salvation.
The doctrines of Babylon, adopted also by fallen protestant churches who are her daughters, are diametrically opposed to those of the remnant, and because their trust is in government, their doctrines are enforced through legislation, worship according to their particular mindset, and various penalties threatened as coercion, leading up to the death penalty.
About those doctrines. It seems that Babylon is set in contrast, twice, with the remnant that keeps the commandments. The remnant also exercise the faith of Jesus, and have the testimony of Jesus, which the angel tells us is the spirit of prophecy. That angel also mentions to John that there is a prophet in the true church. (Rev. 19:10) The doctrines of the remnant, in contrast to the majority church, also teaches that the dead are asleep/ rest, as confirmed in the angel's instruction to John in Revelation 14:13. Also, the mark of the beast, placed in the forehead or hand of the wicked, is in contrast to the seal of God, His name, written in the forehead of the remnant. Both have made conscientious decisions and both are reflected in their worship. In fact, the whole controversy of these last days is centered around worship.
All the above, and more, can be cleaned from Revelation chapters 13 and 14.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Well, you cannot read. I asked you to show me where I said that Paul used the word “graphé” in 2 Thess. 2:15. And instead, you show me where I said Paul mentioned the word in 2 Tim. 3:16. What's wrong with your eyesight?

Like I said before – you’re either a really BAD communicatory – or you’re just NOT that bright. “Graphé” NEVER appears in 2 Thess. 2:15. I don’t even know why you brought it up in the first place.

Bottom line here:
The Holy Spirit speaking through Paul’s pe declared that the Oral Tradition taught ny the Apostles is of EQUAL standing with their written letters.

For some reason – YOU have a problem with that . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Luke 22:29-30= a covenant made to those who will sit on thrones.

Yup.

Now, show me where ANY verse says that ONLY a select few can receive the Eucharist. – and I’ll show you where it is recommended for ALL . . .

 

[RedFan]

Like I said before – you’re either a really BAD communicatory – or you’re just NOT that bright. “Graphé” NEVER appears in 2 Thess. 2:15. I don’t even know why you brought it up in the first place.

I never said that graphé appears in 2 Tess. 2:15, although you accused me of saying so several times. And called me a liar when I denied it! Who is the liar here?