There is only one true church

[Jude Thaddeus]

Here is your irrefutable evidence #1, of 'Sola Scriptura', DIRECT = from God's Mouth to our ears!!!

Matthew 4:4 = “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”

Whenever Jesus says, "It is written", He is explaining what the Scriptures mean, He does not let the Scriptures speak for themselves. And who is the real sola scripturist Jesus is talking to? SATAN, that's who! THINK, man!!!

Did it ever occur to you to find the OT passage Jesus is referring to? No, you don't do that. it's too much work. Instead, you rip one verse out of context from the OT and pretend you have a case. You don't. I have to do your homework for you. Jesus is citing Deuteronomy 8:3 that does not support the myth of sola scriptura in the least.

And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

If anything, this verse is about the manna from heaven that did not give eternal life, but every word that proceeded out of the mouth of the Lord plainly found in John 6, that you deny in the first place. It's not about not sola scriptura.

66 As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore. 67 So Jesus said to the twelve, “You do not want to go away also, do you?” 68 Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life. 69 We have believed and have come to know that You are the Holy One of God.”

Is Peter wrong??? Are the words of eternal life just all His words in the New Testament, or are the words of eternal life in context of John 6??? Are you going to walk away too???

 

[GodsGrace]

Good food indeed .
but now a friendly reminder
Do many preach the Good Bread that giveth life unto the world
or rather do they preach the dark food which offers false hope unto the world .
Any bread that negates the fact one must repent and believe on JESUS the CHRIST
is food no lamb gonna touch but rather must expose .
Just a friendly reminder to all to be on gaurd against the salesmen of the great sell out
whose boat has sailed the ocean blue . which claims that the other relgions serve the same GOD
the christain does . cause that boat might be mighty and huge and very full of people
and it might appear to be the great and mighty unsinkable ship that brings hope to all
But as the titanic sunk , SO too will this one , ON THE DAY of the RIGHTEOUS LORD
when HE arises closes the DOOR to HIS ARK and all outside begin to wail .

Italy doesn't do much teaching.
It's pretty much an atheist country.

 

[David in NJ]

Whenever Jesus says, "It is written", He is explaining what the Scriptures mean, He does not let the Scriptures speak for themselves. And who is the real sola scripturist Jesus is talking to? SATAN, that's who! THINK, man!!!

Did it ever occur to you to find the OT passage Jesus is referring to? No, you don't do that. it's too much work. Instead, you rip one verse out of context from the OT and pretend you have a case. You don't. I have to do your homework for you. Jesus is citing Deuteronomy 8:3 that does not support the myth of sola scriptura in the least.

And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

If anything, this verse is about the manna from heaven that did not give eternal life, but every word that proceeded out of the mouth of the Lord plainly found in John 6, that you deny in the first place. It's not about not sola scriptura.

66 As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore. 67 So Jesus said to the twelve, “You do not want to go away also, do you?” 68 Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life. 69 We have believed and have come to know that You are the Holy One of God.”

Is Peter wrong??? Are the words of eternal life just all His words in the New Testament, or are the words of eternal life in context of John 6??? Are you going to walk away too???

@Jude Thaddeus says: Whenever Jesus says, "It is written", He is explaining what the Scriptures mean, He does not let the Scriptures speak for themselves.

Do you even understand what you just posted???

You have given the EVIDENCE of the TRUTH of my Posts and you have refuted your own position.

@Jude Thaddeus says: If anything, this verse is about the manna from heaven that did not give eternal life,
but every word that proceeded out of the mouth of the Lord plainly found in John 6, that you deny in the first place. It's not about not sola scriptura.

You have given the EVIDENCE of the TRUTH of my Posts and you have refuted your own position - lol

FYI = Sola Scriptura stands on the TRUTH = "Every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God"

 

[Augustin56]

@Jude Thaddeus says: Whenever Jesus says, "It is written", He is explaining what the Scriptures mean, He does not let the Scriptures speak for themselves.

Do you even understand what you just posted???

You have given the EVIDENCE of the TRUTH of my Posts and you have refuted your own position.

@Jude Thaddeus says: If anything, this verse is about the manna from heaven that did not give eternal life, but every word that proceeded out of the mouth of the Lord plainly found in John 6, that you deny in the first place. It's not about not sola scriptura.

You have given the EVIDENCE of the TRUTH of my Posts and you have refuted your own position - lol

 

[David in NJ]

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LOL x1,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000


What is the Church built upon???

 

[David in NJ]

@Augustin56 - What is the Church built upon???

1 Timothy 3:14-16

These things I write to you, though I hope to come to you shortly; but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.

 

[Augustin56]

LOL x1,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000


What is the Church built upon???

Is Peter Really the Foundation of the Church?

ow can the Catholic church teach that Peter is the rock or the foundation of the church when St. Paul teaches in 1 Corinthians 3:11 that there is no other foundation besides Jesus?

www.catholic.com

 

[David in NJ]

Is Peter Really the Foundation of the Church?

ow can the Catholic church teach that Peter is the rock or the foundation of the church when St. Paul teaches in 1 Corinthians 3:11 that there is no other foundation besides Jesus?

www.catholic.com

Listen to the Apostle Peter who says: The Church is NOT built upon Peter.


Every Born-Again Blood Washed Saint knows this.

Now is the time for you to run to Christ and to Him only that you may be SAVED by the SAVIOR who died for your sins.

Listen to the Apostle Peter: Acts ch4

Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Israel: If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man, by what means he has been made well, let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole.
This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

 

[Augustin56]

Listen to the Apostle Peter who says: The Church is NOT built upon Peter.


Every Born-Again Blood Washed Saint knows this.

Now is the time for you to run to Christ and to Him only that you may be SAVED by the SAVIOR who died for your sins.

Listen to the Apostle Peter: Acts ch4

Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Israel: If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man, by what means he has been made well, let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole.
This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

 

[Dan Clarkston]

What is the Church built upon???

Matthew 16:15-18
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Jesus is saying He would build His Church upon revelation knowledge, not on Peter.

There's no record in the NT that the other Apostles though Peter was the lead Apostle or that He was in authority over all other Apostles.

John 16:14
He (Holy Ghost) shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show (reveal) it unto you.

Peter was not any more special than the rest of the Apostles.

At the Council at Jerusalem where all the Apostles had the big meeting to figure out if Christians had to be circumcised or not... the overseer what the Apostle John, not Peter.

If Pete was "the pope" and was in authority over all other Apostles, then he would have presided over the meeting but he did not.

When the disciples argued over who among them would be the greatest (Luke 22:24, Luke 9:46, Mark 9:33), Jesus and the other disciples did not indicate Peter was in authority over the other disciples.

Since catholics forbid their minsters to marry (which is a doctrine of demons, see 1 Timothy 4:3-6) we know Peter could not have been a pope or a minister among catholics because God's Word tells us Peter was married and has a wife (Matt. 8:14-15, Luke 4:38-39)

 

[Augustin56]

Matthew 16:15-18
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Jesus is saying He would build His Church upon revelation knowledge, not on Peter.

There's no record in the NT that the other Apostles though Peter was the lead Apostle or that He was in authority over all other Apostles.

John 16:14
He (Holy Ghost) shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show (reveal) it unto you.

Peter was not any more special than the rest of the Apostles.

At the Council at Jerusalem where all the Apostles had the big meeting to figure out if Christians had to be circumcised or not... the overseer what the Apostle John, not Peter.

If Pete was "the pope" and was in authority over all other Apostles, then he would have presided over the meeting but he did not.

When the disciples argued over who among them would be the greatest (Luke 22:24, Luke 9:46, Mark 9:33), Jesus and the other disciples did not indicate Peter was in authority over the other disciples.

Since catholics forbid their minsters to marry (which is a doctrine of demons, see 1 Timothy 4:3-6) we know Peter could not have been a pope or a minister among catholics because God's Word tells us Peter was married and has a wife (Matt. 8:14-15, Luke 4:38-39)

Scripture describes the Church’s foundation in at least five ways. You can’t pick one and ignore the others.

Paul was not speaking of the universal Church’s foundation. He was referring to how he started the local church at Corinth, of which Christ is the irreplaceable foundation. One can extend this concept to the universal Church, but not without taking into account other things the New Testament has to say.

In 1 Peter 2:6, Isaiah 28:16 is applied to Christ: “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and he who believes in him will not be put to shame.” Here the word for “stone” isn’t petros (the name Jesus gave Peter) but lithos. Further, 1 Peter 2:6 says Jesus is the Church’s “cornerstone” (Greek, akrogōniaios). A cornerstone is only one part of a foundation—the corner part of it.

Ephesians 2:20 says the household of God is “built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone.” The prophets here are likely prophets of the New Testament age, as made clear by the other two references to them in the epistle (Eph. 3:5, 4:11). Together with the apostles, they form the Church’s foundation in this passage, with Christ as the cornerstone. The fact that Paul wrote this passage and 1 Corinthians, shows there is no contradiction in his mind between Christ being the foundation in one sense and others being the foundation in another.

1 Corinthians 3:11 says ‘For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ’ Paul was not speaking of the universal Church’s foundation. He was referring to how he started the local church at Corinth, of which Christ is the irreplaceable foundation. One can extend this concept to the universal Church, but not without taking into account other things the New Testament has to say.

In Revelation 21:14, the New Jerusalem is said to have twelve foundations with the names of the twelve apostles written on them. Note that the Twelve were a select group who had followed Jesus during his ministry (Acts 1:21–26); not even Paul and Barnabas, who also were apostles (Acts 14:14), were members of the Twelve.

Finally, in Matthew 16:18 Jesus says: “And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.”

We thus see that Scripture does not depict the foundation of the Church just one way, and what Jesus says to Peter must be given its due. The Church is not saying that Peter is the foundation of Jesus’s church here on earth apart from Jesus, it’s only in and through Jesus.” Just like, we’re not the light of the world apart from Jesus but only in as much as we’re in Jesus. We’re living stones only in as much as we’re in Christ.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Well we know for sure that catholic doctrine is not found in scripture such as mary worship, purgatory, forbidding to marry, the brown scapular and the rosary etc.

When you leave club earth and go south... you'll see.
Some folks just gotta learn the hard way I guess. Sad.

 

[amigo de christo]

You don't know?
Some persons believe Jesus is not God.
I think I read that we cannot discuss that on this Forum (not sure).
But, to be honest, I'm grateful that we can't.
Anyone that puts CHRISTIAN next to his name.
MUST necessarily believe that Jesus is God.
Any other belief is not Christian.

oh i know my friend . i know .
But would you like to hear something just as scary .
Many people that rightly do beleive JESUS to be GOD
are still following another jesus and another god . THAT IS DEADLY my friend .
Satan sure do like the worship and to be seen as GOD .
PS , he sure can use the name of JESUS too .
Satan dont care WHAT YOU call HIM , so long as you follow him .
Many call him budda , hindu , muslim , even many within the realm of christendom call him jesus .
HE DONT CARE , HE DONT MIND . So long as YOU follow NOT THE TRUE JESUS CHRIST THE TRUE GOD . .
That is a fact my friend . A fact .

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Yeah, many of the big time well known preachers / churches are all on board with the ecumenical movement claiming one can find salvation is all religions and not just thru Jesus

That's the first clue they are speaking in behalf of the devil.

 

[amigo de christo]

Italy doesn't do much teaching.
It's pretty much an atheist country.

This might shock you but a harlot sits in that area .
but her influence is all over this world . no nation is less guilty of heeding her call or more guilty of heeding her all than another one is .
This Harlot will centralize the world and its religoins IN JERUSALEM .
but you can bet it wont be under GOD . we better all watch out . presidents are under her sway
kings and leaders of nations , both great and small are under her sway .
They heed her lets be one unity call . Men have long done her work
and have infiltrated every religoin known to man to UNIFY them , even the athiest
heed her , they do so by her love version . the relgiions heed her by her love version too but they use the name OF GOD to do so .
THIS WORLD , this all inclusive world heeds her call .
Satan is one slick and highly subtile creature . He is full of wisdom . He can decieve .
ONLY IN JESUS THE CHRIST will we not BE decieved . that is a fact .
Man and all that was created , IS NOT infallible , it can fall , it can fail , it can speak truths and lies
BUT GOD HE IS INFALLIBLE , THE SON IS INFALLIBLE , HIS WORD and HIS WORDS are INFALLIBLE .
SO allow me another round of weeping and pleading , EVERYONE GET IN THE BIBLE and learn for you .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah, many of the big time well known preachers / churches are all on board with the ecumenical movement claiming one can find salvation is all religions and not just thru Jesus

That's the first clue they are speaking in behalf of the devil. View attachment 48647

You wanna hear the scariest part of all . THEY do say JESUS IS THE SAVOIR . But YA AINT GOTTA BELIEVE ON HIM .
you see they beleive in what is known as INCLUSIVISM . it will say a solid truth
like JESUS IS THE SAVOIR of the world
its just folks aint gotta believe HE is the CHRIST . what a whopper of a lie but notice it makes a statement that is true .
JESUS IS the SAVOIR of the WORLD
But that SAVOIR DID SAY YE MUST BELIEVE . they leave the latter part out .
THIS IS A HOAX . its meant to simply gather the relgioins as one . its a hoax .
I expose them and do so daily . But my friend , THEY are MANY now .
and while their beleifs about doctrine are not the same
THEIR false love is . You see more and more now believe doctrine dont matter
what one believes dont really matter , just love , just love it says . RATHER ODD
caus that sure DONT SOUND like the LOVE OF GOD
nor do it LOVE GOD OR HIS CHRIST . IT DENIES HIM .
You see here is a real simple example that BELIEF and what one beleives DO MATTER .
GO back to the garden .
Adam and his lovely wife both beleived GOD when HE had said
YE cannot eat of the tree in the midst of the garden for in the day Ye eat thereof YE DIE .
Now enter the serpent .
Has GOD really said . and he wooed her into BELIEVING what HE said rather than what GOD said .
JUST LIKE THEY DO TODAY .
DID JESUS really say ye will be damned if ye believe not , NAY nay sayes the serpent
for God is love . WHICH ONE YOU GONNA BELEIVE . JESUS or the serpent .
AS FOR ME ITS JESUS . I BELIEVE WHAT HE SAYS and not what men try and say that rather contradict it .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah, many of the big time well known preachers / churches are all on board with the ecumenical movement claiming one can find salvation is all religions and not just thru Jesus

That's the first clue they are speaking in behalf of the devil. View attachment 48647

a number so high that i cannot count it are on board with this ecuminical lie .
both the small and the great
the politicians on both sides
the poltiicains of the nations
the churches within christendom
as well as the FALSE relgoins .
THE HO has infiltrated every realm known to man . do not marvel
her father is very full of wisdom . Please note that father was not captilized cause hims the devil who feeds her .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah, many of the big time well known preachers / churches are all on board with the ecumenical movement claiming one can find salvation is all religions and not just thru Jesus

That's the first clue they are speaking in behalf of the devil. View attachment 48647

This lamb dont eat the dainties of her wicked table either . i wont sip from her unity cup
that is full of fornications . i suggest no one does . her chambers lead to hell and death
and all who enter into her have made a covenant with death and shall face the second death
at their end . that might seem quite direct and grave , but by gollly someone has to do it .
We got too many womenized men and masuline women who lead this people and they lead them
RIGHT TO THE PERDITOIN of ungodly men . and worse this people love to have it so .
But what will they do in the end .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah, many of the big time well known preachers / churches are all on board with the ecumenical movement claiming one can find salvation is all religions and not just thru Jesus

That's the first clue they are speaking in behalf of the devil. View attachment 48647

A MAJOR CLUE INDEED my friend .
NO man by the SPIRIT calleth JESUS accursed . YOU RIGHT MY FRIEND .
Now allow me a scenario and i hope you heed it and like it too .
Visualize this my friend .
I am called to go to the HARLOTS den .
now as i stand before her chambers
i am presented with two choices .
On the right hand i have the choice to choose to heed her call of unity
and a massive , massive treasure chest filled full of the worlds finest gold if i so choose her call .
Now on the other hand i have this , A TEN MAN fireing squad if i choose not to heed her call .
And now a word .
MAY my last words be heard saying , SHOOT RIGHT AND TRUE for i desire a quick death and not to suffer .
LET than SINK IN . I AM FULLY PERSAUDED i will have NO PART in the WHORES UNITY CALL . no matter THE COST .
IT BE JESUS THE CHRIST FOR ME and in the BIBLE i shall stay . .

 

[amigo de christo]

What o what will this world do to men like me . who just wont bend the knee and conform .
IT MATTERS NOT . GOD IS MY HELPER and i shall not fear what man can do to me .