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The fourth kingdom in Daniel 7 is the Roman Empire. In the end times, when the prophecy about little horn person will take place, the EU has manifested itself as the Roman Empire of the end times.
In Revelation 11, John was given a rod and told to measure the temple. And (take notice of, implied) of them that worship within.
The papacy has not fulfilled 2Thessalonians2:4. That prophecy is still future, to be fulfilled during the time of the Antichrist.
All conjecture, and none of it biblical. It's imaginary to fit the futuristic paradigm, a paradigm invented by Jesuits to hide the papacy from view.
That the papacy is the little horn/Antichrist is all conjecture as well.
I can prove it from scripture and history. After all, prophecy, in order to be affirmed, must have an historical parallel where all the details of the prophecy are fulfilled. Futurists have nothing. It borders on clairvoyance. Historicism has history, written in blood in many places across the pages of time. History cannot be denied. To deny it is to deny prophecy. To deny prophecy is to deny God. Say the word, and i will meticulously go over every single criteria required to identify the papal power as the only possible candidate. Say the word, because i will not bother if you don't want to go through with it to the end. It's a long and detailed study. There's a lot of information. But if you will only entertain your own ideas above anything else, I will not waste the effort.
Then prove the 2300 days (not years) long vision of the little horn stopping the daily sacrifice and committing the transgression of desolation at the time of the end - applies to the pope.
The gap between the fall of pagan Rome and the presumed emergence of some furore individual antichrist is absolutely a Jesuit invention. It hides the papacy in that gap. You say the antichrist in the future will enter a literal temple in Jerusalem. 2Thess2:4 makes that a lie, rather than a confirmation. Paul said the man of sin would enter the temple of God. To believe God has anything to do with the current plans to rebuild a temple borders on rank blasphemy. The prophecy is about the temple of God. Not some satanic counterfeit that denies God and His Son. That is antichrist. Antichrist appears in the church. The church is the NT temple of God. The RCC is not the NT church, it entered the church as an interloper and false apostate claims to rights and prerogatives that belong only to God, such as the power to forgive sin, the power to create the Creator, the authority to change God's laws, just as Daniel said would happen, and taking titles that belong only to God, and claiming to speak for God, and claiming to be the ruler of a universal kingdom, all blasphemy, all Antichrist, all claiming to be God. You and others on these forums need to wake up. You have been deceived and lulled to sleep. Open your eyes and see.
What a muddle and confusion of understanding. I am not jumping from one "gotcha" cherry picked interpretation to another. As i said, I can offer you a Bible study. A systematic linked theology that reveals all the actors in their right sequence, and at the right time. I'm not jumping from the middle to the end, them back to the start, then to 3/4 way through am imaginary timeline that doesn't exist. That's not a Bible study. For example. Where does the bible say that the antichrist would stop the sacrifices in a literal temple?
The 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy is NOT the long vision! You must have read that somewhere and accepted it. This specific prophecy was answered to Daniel directly by God, not Gabriel - it was that important and personal, AND, even Gabriel did not have the answer to it. Because it belongs to Jesus only. This time element is known, or should be known as the “mareh” vision. It is a specific term for a short term, APPEARANCE type vision. The long term vision is known as the “chazon” vision. This vision covers the period from 457 BC to His second coming. The “mareh” vision refers to the 2300 days, AND, it fits WITHIN the 70 weeks of years prophecy, which is also WITHIN the “Chazon” vision.
These are verses right out of the kjv bible, Daniel 8, about the little horn. Explain how the pope/papacy fulfills theses verses.
You mis-read what I wrote and what the text says. There is not a long vision nor a short vision. The issue was how long - in terms of duration - would the vision be concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, before the temple is cleansed. The answer that Gabriel gave was 2300 days.
First of all, if you know this sanctuary spoken of in Daniel is in the Christian Era, why invent a sanctuary when there's one in the scriptures already spoken of?
It does not say anything about an era in those verses in Daniel 8. Only that the little horn's activities takes place at the time of the end.
I agree with CTK. Your charts and the one here is a fine example, are imaginary and having no biblical foundation. You take one scripture or of context and place it wherever you like. That is not how understanding prophecy works.
The little horn's activities though did not only take place at the time of the end. They began when he arose out of the Pagan Roman beast in 538AD, immediately after the demise, the uprooting, or the fall of the 3rd nation, the Ostrogoths. He continued to be active throughout history until his seemingly mortal head wound in 1798. That wound began to be healed in 1928. It is now almost fully healed with all the world almost wondering after the beast. But because you don't understand m note looked at any of that, it doesn't make sense. So I repeat my offer. A true sustenance study starting at Daniel 2, them 7,8, Revelation 13. That ought to be enough to excite you. And I promise it will. Historical evidence of prophetic fulfillment is far more impactful than charts on how you think stuff might go down.
You mean the popes activities did not take place at the time of the end. Therefore the popes/papacy are not the little horn nor the Antichrist.
See Dougg, you will not open yourself for anything other that what you have been telling yourself for those 50 years.God and study the two different Hebrew words for vision in Daniel... And there is absolutely no 7 year tribualtion ... enough!
