THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

[Heart2Soul]

Salvation is assigned a number as well.

What is the number that God assigned to Salvation?

Oh wow, I don't know...tell me

 

[Heart2Soul]

Salutations Heart2Soul
Yes YHWH the Tetragrammaton is an express of His name. God is a loose term for divine entity. In the original Hebrew scriptures it was seldom used because the Hebrew word for God means God and false god and goddess. Now a days people use God as a proper name because they believe Christianity only has one God. Like IN GOD WE TRUST.
Merry Christmass to you and be safe.

Thanks brother Merry Christmas to you as well!

 

[David in NJ]

Oh wow, I don't know...tell me

7

 

[Heart2Soul]

Salvation is assigned a number as well.

What is the number that God assigned to Salvation?

Are you going to tell me...I would guess 3,7,10,12, or13

 

[MatthewG]

NLT. It has become my go to translation. A great balance between readability and academic notes that had great depth of understanding.

My wife just bought Spiritual Journey NLT. Mine is Every Man’s Bible. Highly recommend due to biographies and Man-Women-God sections. Maps are great also.

That is a great translation; I was reading Ruth earlier. I bought a little simple what they call thin line Bible New living translation. From www.Christianbooks.com, maybe 17$ at most or something, I also bought a NKJV Thompson chain to replace my old one with ripped and torn pages off eBay. Thank you for letting me know, it has been a while since I read those scriptures in Hebrews in a long while, Appericate you sharing with me.

 

[MonoBiblical]

That is a great translation; I was reading Ruth earlier. I bought a little simple what they call thin line Bible New living translation. From www.Christianbooks.com, maybe 17$ at most or something, I also bought a NKJV Thompson chain to replace my old one with ripped and torn pages off eBay. Thank you for letting me know, it has been a while since I read those scriptures in Hebrews in a long while, Appericate you sharing with me.

I personally like Greek interlinears, lexicons, and grammars.

 

[David in NJ]

Are you going to tell me...I would guess 3,7,10,12, or13

1 is the Number of - i 'll leave this for you
2 is the number of Marriage
3 is the number of God/Elohim - Genesis , Gospel, Revelation
4 - four corners of the earth - 4 gospels
5 - Grace - also Ministry = Ephesians 4:11
6 is the number of man - Genesis
7 is the number of Salvation - Genesis , Exodus , Gospel
8 is the Number of New Beginnings - Circumcised on the 8th day AND the New Earth - Revelation
9 is the number of Judgment also tribulation as in pregnancy "when her time has come" SEE Romans as well
10 is the Number of PERFECT - TEN Commandments = God's PERFECT Law which resides in Christ
10 is also the number of Tribulation = no one is able to keep the 10 Commandments as Christ did for us
10 - Tribulation - Revelation 10 Kings who receive power with the Beast
11 - i have not researched so you can fill in this spot
12 - Genesis 12 Tribes of Israel , 12 Apostles AND the New Jerusalem - Revelation

When you add 7 + 3 you get 10 = these numbers all pertain to God as shown above
Also when you ad 12 by itself you get 3 which is the number of God = Revelation chapter 21 where 12 becomes 3 and a Marriage made in Heaven.

 

[MatthewG]

Hello @MonoBiblical,

There is a program I use to use called e-sword. It’s a cool program with a lot of free things though some cost money. Vines dictionary is something I use; helps with translation of words. I’m glad you like use other forms. It’s help to go back. I don’t know what exactly a lexicon is though, or what grammars is, if you like to share with me what those are. Now the Greek interlinears is like a Greek side and English side Bible? There was a totally Greek Bible translation on a free book rack at this one church I went too but I left it there cause I can’t read Greek lol.

 

[MonoBiblical]

Hello @MonoBiblical,

There is a program I use to use called e-sword. It’s a cool program with a lot of free things though some cost money. Vines dictionary is something I use; helps with translation of words. I’m glad you like use other forms. It’s help to go back. I don’t know what exactly a lexicon is though, or what grammars is, if you like to share with me what those are. Now the Greek interlinears is like a Greek side and English side Bible? There was a totally Greek Bible translation on a free book rack at this one church I went too but I left it there cause I can’t read Greek lol.

E-sword is awesome. I like theWord.gr muchly too.

 

[David in NJ]

Are you going to tell me...I would guess 3,7,10,12, or13

Post 2,543

Salvation is the Number 7

Post 2,547 has been edited

 

[RLT63]

Hello @MonoBiblical,

There is a program I use to use called e-sword. It’s a cool program with a lot of free things though some cost money. Vines dictionary is something I use; helps with translation of words. I’m glad you like use other forms. It’s help to go back. I don’t know what exactly a lexicon is though, or what grammars is, if you like to share with me what those are. Now the Greek interlinears is like a Greek side and English side Bible? There was a totally Greek Bible translation on a free book rack at this one church I went too but I left it there cause I can’t read Greek lol.

Matthew,
Blue Letter Bible gives you all the versions and if you click tools it gives you each word, the Strong's number and the Greek word
(Or Hebrew for OT)

 

[MonoBiblical]

@MatthewG Whatever you do, don't overspend on LOGOS or Accordance. They are for scientific papers.

 

[MatthewG]

Matthew,
Blue Letter Bible gives you all the versions and if you click tools it gives you each word, the Strong's number and the Greek word
(Or Hebrew for OT)

Good to see you Rlt, thank you those mentions. I don’t know what it is about the touch the hand on a book and flipping pages. My eyes at 33 are going bad; maybe next year I’ll get eye examination. Appreciate those thoughtful notions.

@MatthewG Whatever you do, don't overspend on LOGOS or Accordance. They are for scientific papers.

Okay, I’ll keep that in mind. Mono. I believe I have all I’ll need now. With my Thompson chain and NLT, and vines dictionary; I might start using e-sword again.

Appreciate yall. I’m gonna try to get some rest work in the morning so good night.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Since it is impossible for God to lie then it is impossible that God created another god to be worshipped in His Place.

Exactly…..there are no other “gods” but the Father, yet Christendom worships one God who is three different individuals…..one is prayed to by one other, but no one is told to worship or pray to the Holy Spirit.…..one is addressed as “Father” by one other, but not the third. The third is never called “God”….so because God cannot lie, the trinity must be false.…nothing adds up. 1+1+1=3.

You have three parts of one God who don’t know what the other parts know….(Matt 24: 36)
You have Jesus praying to the Father but not to the holy spirit, so where is the equality? The Father prays to no one.….nor does the Holy Spirit.

Nowhere is the son called “ho theos” because he is not Yahweh. He only ever said he was “God’s son”, even before being born as a human…..he was always “the only begotten son” of his Father.

You have been shown numerous times that “theos” without the definite article is “a god”….. a “divine one” or even “a human with divine authorization”….human judges are called “theos”, by Yahweh himself, (John 10:31-33) yet you pretend these verses do not exist.

Assemble yourselves and come;
Draw near together,
You who have escaped from the nations.
They have no knowledge,
Who carry the wood of their carved image,
And pray to a god that cannot save.
Tell and bring forth your case;
Yes, let them take counsel together.
Who has declared this from ancient time?
Who has told it from that time?
Have not I, the Lord?
And there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.
“Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other. - Isaiah ch45

Read without the trinitarians lens, where is it saying that the son is God?
”For I am God and there is no other”….who was the only God known by the nation of Israel? (Deut 6:4)
“Is it not I the Lord”….who is “the Lord“ in that verse? Look it up in the Jewish Tanakh and see that it is YHWH….יְהֹוָה֙….the God of Israel which makes him the God of Jesus and every Jewish Bible writer.

Not once is Jesus ever called Yahweh. There is no other God but Yahweh….so erroneously calling Jesus Yahweh is a lie. Yahweh is our “God and savior” because the one who sends the savior is also a savior….it simply means a ‘deliverer’ or ‘rescuer’. (Judges 3:9)

If someone dispatches a rescue craft to save people on a sinking ship, is the rescue vessel the only savior or is the dispatcher also a key player in the rescue? Take off the trinitarian glasses….and see that it does not exist in reality…only in suggestion. Suggestions are not facts.

 

[RLT63]

Exactly…..there are no other “gods” but the Father, yet Christendom worships one God who is three different individuals…..one is prayed to by one other, but no one is told to worship or pray to the Holy Spirit.…..one is addressed as “Father” by one other, but not the third. The third is never called “God”….so because God cannot lie, the trinity must be false.…nothing adds up. 1+1+1=3.

You have three parts of one God who don’t know what the other parts know….(Matt 24: 36)
You have Jesus praying to the Father but not to the holy spirit, so where is the equality? The Father prays to no one.….nor does the Holy Spirit.

Nowhere is the son called “ho theos” because he is not Yahweh. He only ever said he was “God’s son”, even before being born as a human…..he was always “the only begotten son” of his Father.

You have been shown numerous times that “theos” without the definite article is “a god”….. a “divine one” or even “a human with divine authorization”….human judges are called “theos”, by Yahweh himself, (John 10:31-33) yet you pretend these verses do not exist.

Read without the trinitarians lens, where is it saying that the son is God?
”For I am God and there is no other”….who was the only God known by the nation of Israel? (Deut 6:4)
“Is it not I the Lord”….who is “the Lord“ in that verse? Look it up in the Jewish Tanakh and see that it is YHWH….יְהֹוָה֙….the God of Israel which makes him the God of Jesus and every Jewish Bible writer.

Not once is Jesus ever called Yahweh. There is no other God but Yahweh….so erroneously calling Jesus Yahweh is a lie. Yahweh is our “God and savior” because the one who sends the savior is also a savior….it simply means a ‘deliverer’ or ‘rescuer’. (Judges 3:9)

If someone dispatches a rescue craft to save people on a sinking ship, is the rescue vessel the only savior or is the dispatcher also a key player in the rescue? Take off the trinitarian glasses….and see that it does not exist in reality…only in suggestion. Suggestions are not facts.

So what happened? Did Strong's Concordance conspire to leave Ho Theos out of John 1:1 and just put Theos?

English
Strong's
Inflected,
Root &
Transliterated
In
g1722
PREP
Ἐν ἐνen
the beginning
PHRASE
g746
N-DSF
ἀρχῇ ἀρχήarchē
was
g2258
V-IXI-3S
ἦν ἦνēn
the
g3588
T-NSM
ὁ ὁho
Word,
g3056
N-NSM
λόγος λόγοςlogos
and
g2532
CONJ
καὶ καίkai
the
g3588
T-NSM
ὁ ὁho
Word
g3056
N-NSM
λόγος λόγοςlogos
was
g2258
V-IXI-3S
ἦν ἦνēn
with
g4314
PREP
πρὸς πρόςpros
God,
g2316
N-ASM
θεόν θεόςtheos
and
g2532
CONJ
καὶ καίkai
the
g3588
T-NSM
ὁ ὁho
Word
g3056
N-NSM
λόγος λόγοςlogos
was
g2258
V-IXI-3S
ἦν ἦνēn
God.
g2316
N-NSM
θεὸς θεόςtheos

MORPHOLOGICAL GNT​

1:1 ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγοςἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁλόγος

 

[face2face]

i SEE what Paul did to the text

Question is - do you know why and what he means by it???

Depends if you can see what Paul did to the text, if you can't then how can you understand how all Israel (natural) will be saved?

 

[MonoBiblical]

Why is the Islamic/Muslim standard of monotheism prevails? There are no gods except Allah. Yet the angels are called gods, and the wicked ones will die like men.

 

[MonoBiblical]

So what happened? Did Strong's Concordance conspire to leave Ho Theos out of John 1:1 and just put Theos?

Strong's, if I am correct, doesn't concord the Greek article.

 

[RLT63]

Strong's, if I am correct, doesn't concord the Greek article.

I posted it above, both words for God are identical.
See post#2555
So is there a conspiracy at BLB?

 

[MonoBiblical]

I posted it above, both words for God are identical.
See post#2555

Yes, one is a subject, and the other is an object.