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Aunty Jane

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A Born Again / Saint are joint heirs with Christ.
@Ritajanice if I was to ask you what you believe the “saints” will be doing in heaven as “joint heirs” with Christ, how would you answer?
What does it mean to be a “joint heir”? This is saying that Christ has an inheritance from his Father that is shared with others, but as the scriptures bring out, these are not the only ones who gain an inheritance. What of the ”meek who shall inherit the earth”? That too is an inheritance….so what is the connection between the two? What is the relationship between these two groups of ‘inheritors’?…..ones bound for heaven and the others remaining on earth?

What does Jesus say in the Lord’s Prayer? “Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven”.
What are we taught to pray for? What role does the “Kingdom” play in that picture?
The “saints” knew after Pentecost, exactly what that meant, and where they were going and why.

As one anointed by God’s spirit, how can you be lacking in this basic knowledge? Please help me understand your position.
 

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I don't know what understand about eternal, but God is eternal...He has always existed....our spirits are also eternal because He breathed His Spirit into our body. Jesus before He was born existed with God.. God tells us He knew us before we were even conceived. That can be taken to mean two different interpretations....but the one I stand on is that I existed in God b4 I was conceived.
Did you know our DNA is YHWH in Hebrew...In the Hebrew language each letter is assigned a number...YHWH IS 10-5-6-5....our genetic sequence when building DNA is 10-5-6-5
 
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Better then reading the Greek is having the Author of the Scriptures reveal the TRUTH to you.
Afterall, HE was THERE = from the Beginning

Genesis is the KEY = God knows what HE is doing and never let the doubters creep into your head and temp you to doubt your FATHER's Word.
I just don't buy, "The Word was with God and the Word was a god"
The Word was God.
 

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I just don't buy, "The Word was with God and the Word was a god"
The Word was God.
Since it is impossible for God to lie then it is impossible that God created another god to be worshipped in His Place.

Assemble yourselves and come;
Draw near together,
You who have escaped from the nations.
They have no knowledge,
Who carry the wood of their carved image,
And pray to a god that cannot save.
Tell and bring forth your case;
Yes, let them take counsel together.
Who has declared this from ancient time?
Who has told it from that time?
Have not I, the Lord?
And there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.
“Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other. - Isaiah ch45
 
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@Ritajanice if I was to ask you what you believe the “saints” will be doing in heaven as “joint heirs” with Christ, how would you answer?
What does it mean to be a “joint heir”? This is saying that Christ has an inheritance from his Father that is shared with others, but as the scriptures bring out, these are not the only ones who gain an inheritance. What of the ”meek who shall inherit the earth”? That too is an inheritance….so what is the connection between the two? What is the relationship between these two groups of ‘inheritors’?…..ones bound for heaven and the others remaining on earth?

What does Jesus say in the Lord’s Prayer? “Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven”.
What are we taught to pray for? What role does the “Kingdom” play in that picture?
The “saints” knew after Pentecost, exactly what that meant, and where they were going and why.

As one anointed by God’s spirit, how can you be lacking in this basic knowledge? Please help me understand your position.
Do you dispute that scripture says that we are the adopted sons and daughters of God and joint heirs with Christ...
Galatians 4 (KJV)
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¹ Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
² But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
³ Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
⁴ But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
⁵ To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
⁶ And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
 

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I don't know what understand about eternal, but God is eternal...He has always existed....our spirits are also eternal because He breathed His Spirit into our body.
Correct, He gave you breath - the ability to live and exist no diff to an animal
Jesus before He was born existed with God..
No - He was in the mind of God from the beginning but revealed at the due time as the Bible teaches.
God tells us He knew us before we were even conceived.
Yes, now you are getting it!
That can be taken to mean two different interpretations....but the one I stand on is that I existed in God b4 I was conceived.
Did you know our DNA is YHWH in Hebrew...In the Hebrew language each letter is assigned a number...YHWH IS 10-5-6-5....our genetic sequence when building DNA is 10-5-6-5
Wow, off on some weird numerological tangent.

F2F
 

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@Ritajanice if I was to ask you what you believe the “saints” will be doing in heaven as “joint heirs” with Christ, how would you answer?
What does it mean to be a “joint heir”? This is saying that Christ has an inheritance from his Father that is shared with others, but as the scriptures bring out, these are not the only ones who gain an inheritance. What of the ”meek who shall inherit the earth”? That too is an inheritance….so what is the connection between the two? What is the relationship between these two groups of ‘inheritors’?…..ones bound for heaven and the others remaining on earth?

What does Jesus say in the Lord’s Prayer? “Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven”.
What are we taught to pray for? What role does the “Kingdom” play in that picture?
The “saints” knew after Pentecost, exactly what that meant, and where they were going and why.

As one anointed by God’s spirit, how can you be lacking in this basic knowledge? Please help me understand your position.
Well, you could read Romans 11

11:25 For I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: A partial hardening has happened to Israel until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion; he will remove ungodliness from Jacob. 11:27 And this is my covenant with them, when I take away their sins.”
Ro 11:25–27.

Can you see where Pauls mind is? Can you see what he did with OT text? Is this mystery hidden from you still?

F2F
 

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Isn't God like a recognition of rank and His name is YHWH, EL SHADDAI, ADONAI
and it continues because he has a lot of names. Anyway, my understanding is God is what and who He is, YHWH is His name.

Salutations Heart2Soul
Yes YHWH the Tetragrammaton is an express of His name. God is a loose term for divine entity. In the original Hebrew scriptures it was seldom used because the Hebrew word for God means God and false god and goddess. Now a days people use God as a proper name because they believe Christianity only has one God. Like IN GOD WE TRUST.
Merry Christmass to you and be safe.
 
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Well, you could read Romans 11

11:25 For I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: A partial hardening has happened to Israel until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion; he will remove ungodliness from Jacob. 11:27 And this is my covenant with them, when I take away their sins.”
Ro 11:25–27.

Can you see where Pauls mind is? Can you see what he did with OT text? Is this mystery hidden from you still?

F2F
i SEE what Paul did to the text

Question is - do you know why and what he means by it???
 

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@Ritajanice if I was to ask you what you believe the “saints” will be doing in heaven as “joint heirs” with Christ, how would you answer?
What does it mean to be a “joint heir”? This is saying that Christ has an inheritance from his Father that is shared with others, but as the scriptures bring out, these are not the only ones who gain an inheritance. What of the ”meek who shall inherit the earth”? That too is an inheritance….so what is the connection between the two? What is the relationship between these two groups of ‘inheritors’?…..ones bound for heaven and the others remaining on earth?

What does Jesus say in the Lord’s Prayer? “Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven”.
What are we taught to pray for? What role does the “Kingdom” play in that picture?
The “saints” knew after Pentecost, exactly what that meant, and where they were going and why.

As one anointed by God’s spirit, how can you be lacking in this basic knowledge? Please help me understand your position.

Hebrews 6:18 - "it is impossible for God to lie"

Aunty Jane, do you believe this with all your heart, mind and soul???
 

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Correct, He gave you breath - the ability to live and exist no diff to an animal

No - He was in the mind of God from the beginning but revealed at the due time as the Bible teaches.

Yes, now you are getting it!

Wow, off on some weird numerological tangent.

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No I am not...In Hebrew every letter is assigned number. And YHWH Y=10 H=5 W=6 then H again is 5.....

.https://youtube.com/shorts/QiVZUVvPrmc?si=OytqkMuUbXfzvCaA

Did you know YHWH is in the palm of your hand?
 

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HIS very Name recorded upon our hand
 

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No I am not...In Hebrew every letter is assigned number. And YHWH Y=10 H=5 W=6 then H again is 5.....

.https://youtube.com/shorts/QiVZUVvPrmc?si=OytqkMuUbXfzvCaA

Did you know YHWH is in the palm of your hand?
Salvation is assigned a number as well.

What is the number that God assigned to Salvation?
 

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HIS very Name recorded upon our hand.
ABSOLUTELY

In our hand and in our DNA and in the whole Creation

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers.
All things were created through Him and for Him.
And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead,
that in all things He may have the preeminence.
 
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I’m sure I explained this many times. Nothing about the trinity. And try reading the whole chapter to u understand the verse in context.

Long ago God spoke many times and in many ways to our ancestors through the prophets.
2 And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe.
3 The Son radiates God’s own glory and expresses the very character of God, and he sustains everything by the mighty power of his command. When he had cleansed us from our sins, he sat down in the place of honor at the right hand of the majestic God in heaven.
4 This shows that the Son is far greater than the angels, just as the name God gave him is greater than their names.

The Son Is Greater Than the Angels​

5 For God never said to any angel what he said to Jesus:

You are my Son.
Today I have become your Father
.[a]”
God also said,

“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son.”
[b]
6 And when he brought his supreme[c] Son into the world, God said,[d]

Now, getting to ‘o God,’ it an abbreviation for OF God. In no language is the preposition ‘OF’ synonymous with ‘IS.’

Finally, it is God’s throne no matter who sits in it. This is affirmed in Revelation 1:1. The resurrected Jesus, sitting on God’s throne in heaven is STILL not God! God gave Jesus the revelation.
Hello Wrangler,

What translation is this? Just curious; I like writing style.
 

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Hello Wrangler,

What translation is this? Just curious; I like writing style.
NLT. It has become my go to translation. A great balance between readability and academic notes that had great depth of understanding.

My wife just bought Spiritual Journey NLT. Mine is Every Man’s Bible. Highly recommend due to biographies and Man-Women-God sections. Maps are great also.
 
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