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IronMaiden

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I’d heard of Jesus at school..but, it was the Holy Spirit who testified to my spirit who he was.
The Spirit also testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children.Jesus is not the Holy Spirit...,
What did the Holy Spirit testify to you about Jesus?
 

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…for the Bible tells me so. sml
The Bible can’t give you rebirth I’m afraid.,that’s why we must be Born Of The Spirit.= by supernatural divine heart revelation.

Spirit gives birth to spirit..our spirit is reborn...our spirit becomes Alive when it’s been reborn.
 
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NOPE

Your trust in human intellect is letting you down - big time!!!
Yes, F2F is right.

Read Judges 16:23 in Hebrew.
Elohim is applied to the Philistine’s god Dagon. They thought their god was “the best, superlative, the most excellent.” Hence, the plural form of god was used.
 

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I’d heard of Jesus at school..but, it was the Holy Spirit who testified to my spirit who he was.
The Spirit also testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children.Jesus is not the Holy Spirit...,
As a Theologian I have a serious thing with the correct names of the Gods and biblical characters.
And there is a scripture that says that there is only one name that can be called upon for salvation.

And why not call the Gods and biblical characters by there real names. Some of the history about their "known" names have come forward is interesting. You take Mary for instance....Her real name is Miriam. Miriam can be spelled in English and pronounced in English why not use her real name. Why did it go to Mary?

Miriam was punished for objecting to Moses’ wife. Miriam's name means rebellion and those translating the scriptures did not like the mother of Yeshua having a name that meant rebellion so it went from Miriam to Maria to Mary.
 
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Ritajanice

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As a Theologian I have a serious thing with the correct name of the Gods and biblical characters.
And there is a scripture that says that there is only one name that can be called upon for salvation.

And why not call the Gods and biblical characters by there real names. Some of the history about their "known" names have come forward is interesting. You take Mary for instance....Her real name is Miriam. Miriam can be spelled in English and pronounced in English why not use her real name. Why did it go to Mary?

Miriam was punished for objecting to Moses’ wife. Miriam name means rebellion and those translating the scriptures did not like the mother of Yeshua having a name that meant rebellion so it went from Miriam to Maria to Mary.
Thank you for your own summary,I’m not a theologian like you.

I can only understand being Born Again..I have a very simple living faith...the Spirit reveals scripture and matters of the heart to me..I can only learn from him.

33yrs ago I was Born Again, I’ve still so much to learn, I have a wonderful teacher/helper...who indwells my spirit.and he ain’t Jesus..LOL
 
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Thank you for your own summary,I’m not a theologian like you.

I can only understand being Born Again..I have a very simple living faith...the Spirit reveals scripture and matters of the heart to me..I can only learn from him.

33yrs ago I was Born Again, I’ve still so much to learn, I have a wonderful teacher/helper...who indwells my spirit.and he ain’t Jesus..LOL

The wonderful thing is you do not have to be educated to be saved.
Look at the first Christians….no Bibles….most could not read or write….learnt from word of mouth…..People did not get Bibles in their hands until a little before the 16th century.

Education is about human correctness and understanding. Good for teaching and knowing when people are spreading BS but it does not impress Christ just that He recognizes devotion.
 
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Like I said, No one knows where the word Jesus came from, it just appeared in the 17th century.
Origins in Hebrew and Greek:
The name "Jesus" originates from the Hebrew name Yeshua (יֵשׁוּעַ), a variant of Yehoshua (Joshua), meaning "Yahweh is salvation." This name was transliterated into Greek as Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous) during the translation of the Hebrew scriptures into Greek (the Septuagint) and was the form used in the New Testament writings. The transliteration process involved adapting the name into the Greek language, which lacked certain sounds present in Hebrew
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Historical Usage:
The Greek form Iēsous was carried into Latin as Iesus, which appeared in the Vulgate (Latin Bible translation by Jerome in the 4th century). From Latin, the name evolved into various forms in different languages. The English "Jesus" became standardized in the 16th–17th centuries when the letter "J" began to be distinguished from "I" in print. Prior to that, early English Bibles like the Tyndale Bible and the Geneva Bible used "Iesus"
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Etymological Path:
The development of "Jesus" follows a clear linguistic path:

Hebrew Yeshua → Greek Iēsous → Latin Iesus → Early Modern English Iesus → Modern English Jesus.
This journey reflects transliteration and orthographic changes rather than a sudden invention of the name
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Biblical Evidence:
The New Testament texts, written in Greek, consistently use Iēsous. For example, Matthew 1:21 states, "You shall call his name Jesus (Ἰησοῦς), for he will save his people from their sins." This demonstrates the use of this Greek form of the name during the time of Christ and in early Christian writings
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In summary, the name "Jesus" is a result of transliteration and linguistic evolution, not an invention of the 17th century.

Your claim that it "appeared out of nowhere" is unfounded and dismisses documented historical and linguistic developments.

. Flavius Josephus (A.D. 37-100),
the great Jewish historian of the times, was born shortly after the death of Jesus, and wrote about him in a famous (and famously disputed) passage known as the Testimonium Flavianum (“The Testimony of Flavius Josephus”). It’s disputed because most scholars believe that later Christian interpolators doctored the text to make it appear that Josephus was attributing more to Jesus than what, in all likelihood, Josephus actually had done. Since Josephus was not a Christian, it’s hardly plausible that he composed these disputed sections. Fortunately, it’s pretty easy to spot what likely didn’t come from Josephus’s own hand (indicated below by brackets):

About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man [if indeed one ought to call him a man], for he was one who wrought surprising feats and was a teacher of such people who accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. [He was the Messiah.]

When Pilate, upon hearing him accused by men of the highest standing amongst us, had condemned him to be crucified, those who had in the first place come to love him did not give up their affection for him. [On the third day, he appeared to them restored to life, for the prophets of God had prophesied these and countless other marvelous things about him.] And the tribe of Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared (The Antiquities of the Jewish People 18.3.3).

If we delete the dubious portions of this passage, we still have solid evidence that Josephus wrote about Jesus as a historical figure. Josephus also corroborates much of what we know from Jesus’ biographies, the Gospels: namely, that Jesus was known as a miracle worker and convincing teacher and was condemned to death by the Jerusalem priesthood (“men of the highest standing”).

Josephus mentions Jesus again later on when discussing the death of James, the relative of Jesus who became the bishop of Jerusalem. This latter passage is relatively undisputed in terms of its authenticity:

Possessed of such a character, Ananus [the high priest] thought that he had a favorable opportunity because Festus was dead and Albinus was still on the way (Festus and Albinus were Roman governors.). And so he convened the judges of the Sanhedrin and brought before them a man named James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ, and certain others (The Antiquities of the Jewish People 20.9.1).

What we have here are three ancient, non-Christian writers who confirm the existence of Jesus. And in the case of Pliny and Tacitus, we have two “hostile witnesses” who are not at all sympathetic to the claims of Christ or his followers. There are other ancient, non-Christian writers who also corroborate the existence of Jesus.

Whats your problem @Grailhunter?

J.
 

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The wonderful thing is you do not have to be educated to be saved.
Look at the first Christians….no Bibles….most could not read or write….learnt from word of mouth…..People did not get Bibles in their hands until a little before the 16th century.

Education is about human correctness and understanding. Good for teaching and knowing when people are spreading BS but it does not impress Christ just that He recognizes devotion.
Amen!!
 
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