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I am not going to say your lying your just ignorant.
Ignorant not stupid, just not knowledgeable.
The KJV was the first Bible to use the new word Jesus,
But not in its first print, it used the Greek word Ἰησοῦς (Iēsoûs) which is not a name but a Greek word that means healer. As did the Bibles before the KJV, the Geneva Bible and the Tyndale Bible.

No one knows were the word Jesus came from, it just appeared in the 17th century.

There are no J’s in the scriptures….look it up a learn….Yeshua, Yob, Yacob, Yoshua, Yericho, Yames. Look it up learn instead making yourself lood stupid.
The one that is in dire need of correction is you-


The Name "Jesus" in the New Testament
The name "Jesus" derives from the Greek Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous), which itself is a transliteration of the Hebrew/Aramaic יֵשׁוּעַ (Yeshua).
The name "Jesus" has been used in Christian scriptures since the Septuagint (LXX) translation of the Old Testament (circa 3rd century BCE) to render the Hebrew name Yeshua (Joshua).

Thus, "Jesus" is not a modern invention nor a word meaning "healer" in its original form.

2. The KJV's Use of the Name "Jesus"

The King James Version (KJV), first published in 1611, did indeed use the name "Jesus" (transliterating Ἰησοῦς into "Jesus") throughout its text. However, it was not the first Bible translation to do so. Both Tyndale's New Testament (1526) and the Geneva Bible (1560) also used the Greek transliteration of Ἰησοῦς as "Jesus." Tyndale, in particular, is credited with much of the language that was later used in the KJV.

3. The Misconception of the Name "Jesus" Meaning "Healer"

The claim that the name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous) means "healer" is incorrect. While the root of the name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous) shares a linguistic connection with the Hebrew word יָשַׁע (yasha, "to save" or "to deliver"), it does not directly translate to "healer." The name "Jesus" means "The Lord is Salvation" or "Yahweh is Salvation." It is a personal name, not a title or a description like "healer."

Matthew 1:21: "She will bear a son, and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins."

This directly ties the name to the concept of salvation.

4. Pre-KJV Translations (Tyndale and Geneva Bible)
Both the Tyndale Bible (1526) and the Geneva Bible (1560) used the Greek name Ἰησοῦς and rendered it as "Jesus."

There is no evidence that these translations used a different name for Jesus. They were important English translations that influenced later versions like the KJV.

Conclusion
The KJV was not the first Bible to use the name "Jesus" (in Greek Ἰησοῦς); earlier English translations, including Tyndale and the Geneva Bible, also used it. Furthermore, Ἰησοῦς does not mean "healer" but is a transliteration of the Hebrew name Yeshua, meaning "The Lord is salvation."

For further reading, you might look at sources such as:

The Preface to the KJV (1611)
Tyndale's New Testament (1526)
The Geneva Bible (1560)
Jesus
iesous (G2424) is a transliteration of the Heb. "Joshua," meaning "Jehovah is salvation," i.e., "is the Savior," "a common name among the Jews, e.g., Exo_17:9; Luk_3:29 (RV); Col_4:11. It was given to the Son of God in Incarnation as His personal name, in obedience to the command of an angel to Joseph, the husband of His Mother, Mary, shortly before He was born, Mat_1:21. By it He is spoken of throughout the Gospel narratives generally, but not without exception, as in Mar_16:19, Mar_16:20; Luk_7:13, and a dozen other places in that Gospel, and a few in John.
"'Jesus Christ' occurs only in Mat_1:1, Mat_1:18; Mat_16:21, marg.; Mar_1:1; Joh_1:17; Joh_17:3. In Acts the name 'Jesus' is found frequently. 'Lord Jesus' is the normal usage, as in Act_8:16; Act_19:5, Act_19:17; see also the reports of the words of Stephen, Act_7:59, of Ananias, Act_9:17, and of Paul, Act_16:31; though both Peter, Act_10:36, and Paul, Act_16:18, also used 'Jesus Christ.'
"In the Epistles of James, Peter, John and Jude, the personal name is not once found alone, but in Rev. eight times (RV), Rev_1:9; Rev_12:17; Rev_14:12; Rev_17:6; Rev_19:10 (twice); Rev_20:4; Rev_22:16.
"In the Epistles of Paul 'Jesus' appears alone just thirteen times, and in the Hebrews eight times; in the latter the title 'Lord' is added once only, at Heb_13:20. In the Epistles of James, Peter, John, and Jude, men who had companied with the Lord in the days of His flesh, 'Jesus Christ' is the invariable order (in the RV) of the Name and Title, for this was the order of their experience; as 'Jesus' they knew Him first, that He was Messiah they learnt finally in His resurrection. But Paul came to know Him first in the glory of heaven, Act_9:1-6, and his experience being thus the reverse of theirs, the reverse order, 'Christ Jesus,' is of frequent occurrence in his letters, but, with the exception of Act_24:24, does not occur elsewhere in the RV.
"In Paul's letters the order is always in harmony with the context. Thus 'Christ Jesus' describes the Exalted One who emptied Himself, Php_2:5, and testifies to His pre-existence; 'Jesus Christ' describes the despised and rejected One Who was afterwards glorified, Php_2:11, and testifies to His resurrection. 'Christ Jesus' suggests His grace, 'Jesus Christ' suggests His glory."*
* From Notes on Thessalonians, by Hogg and Vine, pp. 16, 29.

But now you are sly @Grailhunter --

Consider Iesous, rendered as "Jesus" in English versions up to now. For example the authoritative Greek-English Lexicon of Liddell and Scott, under Ias: the Greek goddess of healing reveals that the name Iaso is Ieso in the Ionic dialect of the Greeks, Iesous being the contracted genitive form.

Names of Jesus

Alpha and Omega (Rev. 1:8) Lion of Judah (Rev. 5:5)

Anointed One (Ps. 2:2) Lord of Lords (Rev. 19:16)

Author of Life (Acts 3:15) Mighty God (Isa. 9:6)

Branch (Zech. 6:12) Nazarene (Matt. 2:23)

Bright and Morning Star (Rev. 22:16) Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6)

Christ (Matt. 1:16) Rabbi (John 1:38)

Daystar ( 2 Pet. 1:19) Root of David (Rev. 5:5)

Everlasting Father (Isa. 9:6) Root of Jesse (Isa. 11:10)

Gate (John 10:9) Son of David (Matt. 15:22)

Good Shepherd (John 10:14) Son of God (Mark 1:1)

Holy and Righteous One (Acts 3:14) Son of Man (Matt. 8:20)

I Am (John 8:58) True Vine (John 15:1)

Immanuel (Isa. 7:14) Wonderful Counselor (Isa. 9:6)

King of Kings (Rev. 19:16) Word (John 1:1)

Lamb (Rev. 5:6-13) Word of God (Rev. 19:13)

Lamb of God (John 1:29)

J.
 

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The Kingdom of God will come at the Second Coming of Jesus.
A Born Again is already in his Kingdom.
The Kingdom of God will come at the Second Coming of Jesus.
His Kingdom is in all the Born Again.

We are his Spirit children.

Born of God, His seed remains in us..

Chosen and predestined to become Born Again.
 

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The Kingdom of God will come at the Second Coming of Jesus.
for now we are connected to it By THE SPIRIT . but you bet its gonna descend on the DAY OF THE LORD upon earth .
So lets examine this heavenly kingdom of GOD wherein is HEAVENLY JERSUALEM
wherein GOD and the LAMB are the temple .
Muhammed will not be there . hims preached a false fat lie .
No other religoin can get ya there or make ya a partaker of it . THEY ALL FALSE .
Even unbelivling jews are in deadly and dire danger ,
THE KEY IS , TIME TO PREACH TO ALL , TO REMIND ALL , WEEPING and wailingawaits
all who DENIED JESUS IS THE CHRIST . but life and life eternal unto all WHO BELIEVED ON HIM .
now reader and all i would like to remind us
that IF THE JESUS WE SO LOVE be another jesus bringing words and beliefs that are contrary
to what was recorded in the bibile that JESUS HIMSELF said , OOPSY that one cant save
Satan and his co workers can preach another jesus and another gospel and do all to make jesus seem
as a minstir of sin and unbelief . BUT WE LAMBS DONT HEED THEM . exactly my friend .
 

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A Born Again is already in his Kingdom.

His Kingdom is in all the Born Again.

We are his Spirit children.

Born of God, His seed remains in us..

Chosen and predestined to become Born Again.
a born again is seated in the heavenly Kingdom and they too await its arrival upon earth .
SO lets remind the readers of WHO the BORN again are , cause all others will wail ON THE DAY OF THE LORD .
NO BORN AGAIN person calleth JESUS accursed , SO THEY DONT BELIEVE OTHER RELIGOINS
THEY CALL HIM LORD by the SPIRIT . always remember interfaith is of anti christ and is the glue
by which the devil shall merge all as one under what he calls love and he calls GOD to make war against
the saints and against CHRIST . Interfaith is the glue of satan , it is that which is of anti christ
to come and preach unbelief , and belief in a LIE it calleth love but which will DAMN ALL to peridtion .
 

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Whose kingdom?
Just explained whose kingdom.you need to ask God..I can’t help you, if you don’t know what it means to be in his Kingdom that can only come by supernatural divine heart revelation.

You should know that the Holy Spirit is the living messenger.

I can’t testify anything to your spirit only he can do that.

Jesus does not indwell my spirit as you believe he does yours.

No one can say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit...

The Holy Spirit testifies Of Jesus.The Holy Spirit is NOT Jesus.
 
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Just explained whose kingdom.you need to ask God..I can’t help you, if you don’t know what it means to be in his Kingdom that can only come by supernatural divine heart revelation.

You should know that the Holy Spirit is the living messenger.

I can’t testify anything to your spirit only he can do that.

Jesus does not indwell my spirit as you believe he does yours.
What is the Holy Spirit’s message?

John 15:26-27 (KJV) 26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of Me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
 
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What is the Holy Spirit’s message?

John 15:26-27 (KJV) 26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth,
Who is the Spirit Of Truth and where in us does he testify his truth @LatterRain ?
which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of Me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
Oh I know that message well.

Now, as I’m always explaining spiritual matters to you.

You interpret that scripture and what it means in the spirit?
 

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The one that is in dire need of correction is you-


The Name "Jesus" in the New Testament
The name "Jesus" derives from the Greek Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous), which itself is a transliteration of the Hebrew/Aramaic יֵשׁוּעַ (Yeshua).
The name "Jesus" has been used in Christian scriptures since the Septuagint (LXX) translation of the Old Testament (circa 3rd century BCE) to render the Hebrew name Yeshua (Joshua).

Thus, "Jesus" is not a modern invention nor a word meaning "healer" in its original form.

2. The KJV's Use of the Name "Jesus"

The King James Version (KJV), first published in 1611, did indeed use the name "Jesus" (transliterating Ἰησοῦς into "Jesus") throughout its text. However, it was not the first Bible translation to do so. Both Tyndale's New Testament (1526) and the Geneva Bible (1560) also used the Greek transliteration of Ἰησοῦς as "Jesus." Tyndale, in particular, is credited with much of the language that was later used in the KJV.

3. The Misconception of the Name "Jesus" Meaning "Healer"

The claim that the name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous) means "healer" is incorrect. While the root of the name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous) shares a linguistic connection with the Hebrew word יָשַׁע (yasha, "to save" or "to deliver"), it does not directly translate to "healer." The name "Jesus" means "The Lord is Salvation" or "Yahweh is Salvation." It is a personal name, not a title or a description like "healer."

Matthew 1:21: "She will bear a son, and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins."

This directly ties the name to the concept of salvation.

4. Pre-KJV Translations (Tyndale and Geneva Bible)
Both the Tyndale Bible (1526) and the Geneva Bible (1560) used the Greek name Ἰησοῦς and rendered it as "Jesus."

There is no evidence that these translations used a different name for Jesus. They were important English translations that influenced later versions like the KJV.

Conclusion
The KJV was not the first Bible to use the name "Jesus" (in Greek Ἰησοῦς); earlier English translations, including Tyndale and the Geneva Bible, also used it. Furthermore, Ἰησοῦς does not mean "healer" but is a transliteration of the Hebrew name Yeshua, meaning "The Lord is salvation."

For further reading, you might look at sources such as:

The Preface to the KJV (1611)
Tyndale's New Testament (1526)
The Geneva Bible (1560)
Jesus
iesous (G2424) is a transliteration of the Heb. "Joshua," meaning "Jehovah is salvation," i.e., "is the Savior," "a common name among the Jews, e.g., Exo_17:9; Luk_3:29 (RV); Col_4:11. It was given to the Son of God in Incarnation as His personal name, in obedience to the command of an angel to Joseph, the husband of His Mother, Mary, shortly before He was born, Mat_1:21. By it He is spoken of throughout the Gospel narratives generally, but not without exception, as in Mar_16:19, Mar_16:20; Luk_7:13, and a dozen other places in that Gospel, and a few in John.
"'Jesus Christ' occurs only in Mat_1:1, Mat_1:18; Mat_16:21, marg.; Mar_1:1; Joh_1:17; Joh_17:3. In Acts the name 'Jesus' is found frequently. 'Lord Jesus' is the normal usage, as in Act_8:16; Act_19:5, Act_19:17; see also the reports of the words of Stephen, Act_7:59, of Ananias, Act_9:17, and of Paul, Act_16:31; though both Peter, Act_10:36, and Paul, Act_16:18, also used 'Jesus Christ.'
"In the Epistles of James, Peter, John and Jude, the personal name is not once found alone, but in Rev. eight times (RV), Rev_1:9; Rev_12:17; Rev_14:12; Rev_17:6; Rev_19:10 (twice); Rev_20:4; Rev_22:16.
"In the Epistles of Paul 'Jesus' appears alone just thirteen times, and in the Hebrews eight times; in the latter the title 'Lord' is added once only, at Heb_13:20. In the Epistles of James, Peter, John, and Jude, men who had companied with the Lord in the days of His flesh, 'Jesus Christ' is the invariable order (in the RV) of the Name and Title, for this was the order of their experience; as 'Jesus' they knew Him first, that He was Messiah they learnt finally in His resurrection. But Paul came to know Him first in the glory of heaven, Act_9:1-6, and his experience being thus the reverse of theirs, the reverse order, 'Christ Jesus,' is of frequent occurrence in his letters, but, with the exception of Act_24:24, does not occur elsewhere in the RV.
"In Paul's letters the order is always in harmony with the context. Thus 'Christ Jesus' describes the Exalted One who emptied Himself, Php_2:5, and testifies to His pre-existence; 'Jesus Christ' describes the despised and rejected One Who was afterwards glorified, Php_2:11, and testifies to His resurrection. 'Christ Jesus' suggests His grace, 'Jesus Christ' suggests His glory."*
* From Notes on Thessalonians, by Hogg and Vine, pp. 16, 29.

But now you are sly @Grailhunter --

Consider Iesous, rendered as "Jesus" in English versions up to now. For example the authoritative Greek-English Lexicon of Liddell and Scott, under Ias: the Greek goddess of healing reveals that the name Iaso is Ieso in the Ionic dialect of the Greeks, Iesous being the contracted genitive form.

Names of Jesus

Alpha and Omega (Rev. 1:8) Lion of Judah (Rev. 5:5)

Anointed One (Ps. 2:2) Lord of Lords (Rev. 19:16)

Author of Life (Acts 3:15) Mighty God (Isa. 9:6)

Branch (Zech. 6:12) Nazarene (Matt. 2:23)

Bright and Morning Star (Rev. 22:16) Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6)

Christ (Matt. 1:16) Rabbi (John 1:38)

Daystar ( 2 Pet. 1:19) Root of David (Rev. 5:5)

Everlasting Father (Isa. 9:6) Root of Jesse (Isa. 11:10)

Gate (John 10:9) Son of David (Matt. 15:22)

Good Shepherd (John 10:14) Son of God (Mark 1:1)

Holy and Righteous One (Acts 3:14) Son of Man (Matt. 8:20)

I Am (John 8:58) True Vine (John 15:1)

Immanuel (Isa. 7:14) Wonderful Counselor (Isa. 9:6)

King of Kings (Rev. 19:16) Word (John 1:1)

Lamb (Rev. 5:6-13) Word of God (Rev. 19:13)

Lamb of God (John 1:29)

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The blind leading the blind
Brother if you want peace of mind from all of those commentaries and other people’s work he posts...plus he bears no fruit of the Spirit, put him on ignore ..most of his posts imo are unedifying.lets offer him up in prayer.
 

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Just explained whose kingdom.you need to ask God..I can’t help you, if you don’t know what it means to be in his Kingdom that can only come by supernatural divine heart revelation.

You should know that the Holy Spirit is the living messenger.

I can’t testify anything to your spirit only he can do that.

Jesus does not indwell my spirit as you believe he does yours.

No one can say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit...

The Holy Spirit testifies Of Jesus.The Holy Spirit is NOT Jesus.
Who is Jesus? Do you not know?

Isaiah 40:21 (KJV) Have you not known? have you not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?
Isaiah 40:25-26 (NKJV) 25 “To whom then will you liken Me, Or [to whom] shall I be equal?” says the Holy One. 26 Lift up your eyes on high, And see who has created these [things,] Who brings out their host by number; He calls them all by name, By the greatness of His might And the strength of [His] power; Not one is missing. Isaiah 40:28 (NKJV) Have you not known? Have you not heard? The everlasting God, the LORD, The Creator of the ends of the earth, Neither faints nor is weary. His understanding is unsearchable.
 
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Who is Jesus? Do you not know?
Isaiah 40:21 (KJV) Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?
Isaiah 40:25-26 (NKJV) 25 “To whom then will you liken Me, Or [to whom] shall I be equal?” says the Holy One. 26 Lift up your eyes on high, And see who has created these [things,] Who brings out their host by number; He calls them all by name, By the greatness of His might And the strength of [His] power; Not one is missing. Isaiah 40:28 (NKJV) Have you not known? Have you not heard? The everlasting God, the LORD, The Creator of the ends of the earth, Neither faints nor is weary. His understanding is unsearchable.
Yes I know who Jesus is..like I tried to explain only the Holy Spirit can testify to our spirit who Jesus is.

Do you know who the Holy Spirit is?

How do you know Jesus?

Where is your living testimony ?
 

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Brother if you want peace of mind from all of those commentaries and other people’s work he posts...plus he bears no fruit of the Spirit, put him on ignore ..most of his posts imo are unedifying.
Thanks a bunch.
I kind of expected that sort thing when I started posting on this thread....no harm, no foul.
The thing is I am a fully educated Theologian, formal education in 5 countries....most of my life.
Some of these misconceptions come from faulty reference material.
Like I said, No one knows where the word Jesus came from, it just appeared in the 17th century.
And most are not quick witted enough to ask themselves......We did not know christ's name until the 17th century????!!!!
 
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Thanks a bunch.
I kind of expected that sort thing when I started this thread....no harm, no foul.
The thing is I am a fully educated Theologian, formal education in 5 countries....most of my life.
Some of these misconceptions come from faulty reference material.
Like I said, No one knows where the word Jesus came from, it just appeared in the 17th century.
And most are not quick witted enough to ask themselves......We did not know christ's name until the 17th century????!!!!
I’d heard of Jesus at school..but, it was the Holy Spirit who testified to my spirit who he was.
The Spirit also testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children.Jesus is not the Holy Spirit...,
 
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