The timing of the battle of Armageddon

[tailgator]

Revelation 20:4-6 is referring to the martyred great tribulation saints who will be resurrected and rule with Christ from Jerusalem.

For the 42 months before Jesus's return, the beast-king will be occupying Jerusalem.

Daniel 7 is talking about the same kingdom and the same saints who inherit the beasts kingdom after it is destroyed.

The kingdom.of heaven is taken from.the beast and given to the saints.


Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.




"they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High"





Daniel 7
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

 

[Douggg]

You said the beast that kills the christians is the Christian kingdom of Rome Italy.
There is no Roman empire and never will again.

No, I did not say that. The beast who rules for 42 months in Revelation 13 is a person, a king, over the end times version of the Roman Empire.

The EU evolved out of the European Economic Community which was founded by the treaty of Rome in 1957.

In Revelation 17:10 are the seven kings of the Roman Empire, of the Julio Claudian blood line.
1. Julius Caesar
2. Augustus Caesar
3. Tiberius
4. Caligula
5. Claudius
6. Nero

7. the end times little horn person - leader over ten kings of the EU
8. the beast-king (formerly the little horn person) - dictator over the EU

 

[tailgator]

Revelation 20:4-6 is referring to the martyred great tribulation saints who will be resurrected and rule with Christ from Jerusalem.

For the 42 months before Jesus's return, the beast-king will be occupying Jerusalem.

The beast king is occupying Jerusalem now.
The second beast has not arrived yet.Aftervthe second beast arrives ,they both have 42 months during which the saints are persecuted in Israel as in Daniel 7.

 

[tailgator]

No, I did not say that. The beast who rules for 42 months in Revelation 13 is a person, a king, over the end times version of the Roman Empire.

The EU evolved out of the European Economic Community which was founded by the treaty of Rome in 1957.

In Revelation 17:10 are the seven kings of the Roman Empire, of the Julio Claudian blood line
1. Julius Caesar
2. Augustus Caesar
3. Tiberius
4. Caligula
5. Claudius
6. Nero

7. the end times little horn person - leader over ten kings of the EU
8. the beast-king (formerly the little horn person) - dictator over the EU

No,Benjamin netanyahu will be reigning during the next few years.During his reign ,everyone in Israel,except for the saints in Israel, will receive a mark in their right hand or forehead.

 

[tailgator]

No, I did not say that. The beast who rules for 42 months in Revelation 13 is a person, a king, over the end times version of the Roman Empire.

The EU evolved out of the European Economic Community which was founded by the treaty of Rome in 1957.

In Revelation 17:10 are the seven kings of the Roman Empire, of the Julio Claudian blood line
1. Julius Caesar
2. Augustus Caesar
3. Tiberius
4. Caligula
5. Claudius
6. Nero

7. the end times little horn person - leader over ten kings of the EU
8. the beast-king (formerly the little horn person) - dictator over the EU

PS
Rome is broke.They have no nuclear weapons and can't pay the bills.If you can,will you help support Rome by making a one time donation of $1:00.

Thank you in advance.

 

[Douggg]

The beast king is occupying Jerusalem now.
The second beast has not arrived yet.Aftervthe second beast arrives ,they both have 42 months during which the saints are persecuted in Israel as in Daniel 7.

The beast-king has not emerged yet to know who he is.

The person goes through five stages...
1. the little horn person - leader over ten EU leaders
2. then as the prince that shall come - following the Gog/Magog event
3. then anointed the King of Israel thought-to-be messiah - becoming the Antichrist
4. then revealed to be the man of sin and not the Jewish messiah after all.
5. then becomes the beast-king - dictator of the EU.

The person is not Benjamin Netanyahu. He does not fit the profile.

 

[Douggg]

No,Benjamin netanyahu will be reigning during the next few years.During his reign ,everyone in Israel,except for the saints in Israel, will receive a mark in their right hand or forehead.

The 7 years, of which the mark will be required in the last 42 months, do not start until after the Gog/Magog event in Ezekiel 39.

 

[Jay Ross]

Then show your timeline diagram of Ezekiel 39 from verse 1 to verse 29.


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I have looked at Ezekiel 38 and 39 and perceive that both chapters span the same timeframe of three ages, so to generate a meaningful diagram that you demand is not possible as it spans over 3,000 years. Really we should go back for another two ages as well.

Now the Armageddon event will happen when the time of the visitation of the iniquities, of the first two ages of the existence of the fathers of the nations upon their children and the children's children has run its determined time of two ages, nominally two ages after which Israel will be redeemed when the fullness with respect to time of the Gentiles has run its full duration to the prophesised end of the time period of 2,300 years is completed. At this time the Gentile kings and the heavenly hosts will be judged and imprisoned together in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years, after which the Bottomless pit will be unlocked for a time, which I believe will be around 24 years when, by the conclusion of this time period, the all the forces of Satan, i.e., Gog and Magog, and his plans will have been overcome and we will see Christ coming on the clouds with all of the heavenly hosts to judge at His second advent.

Now this is not complicated to comprehend but when you understanding is so different to what the scripture foretells, then it will seem to be complicated to you as your mind is already made up that your understanding is the only right understanding to have.

Goodbye Douggg

 

[Douggg]

I have looked at Ezekiel 38 and 39 and perceive that both chapters span the same timeframe of three ages, so to generate a meaningful diagram that you demand is not possible as it spans over 3,000 years. Really we should go back for another two ages as well.

Ezekiel 39 has 7 years in the text following the Gog/Magog event. And also 7 months of Israel burying the dead of Gog's army. There is no 3000 years involved. And the events following Gog/Magog do not fit a post millennial scenario.

Ezekiel 39:9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

Ezekiel 39:12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.

Now this is not complicated to comprehend but when you understanding is so different to what the scripture foretells, then it will seem to be complicated to you as your mind is already made up that your understanding is the only right understanding to have.

Jay, more meaningless chatter. Make a timeline chart of Ezekiel 39:1-29 as I did.

 

[tailgator]

The beast-king has not emerged yet to know who he is.

The person goes through five stages...
1. the little horn person - leader over ten EU leaders
2. then as the prince that shall come - following the Gog/Magog event
3. then anointed the King of Israel thought-to-be messiah - becoming the Antichrist
4. then revealed to be the man of sin and not the Jewish messiah after all.
5. then becomes the beast-king - dictator of the EU.

The person is not Benjamin Netanyahu. He does not fit the profile.

Benjamin Netanyahu says he wants everyone in Israel to be microchipped.
Most likely it will take place next year after Trump is reelected.

 

[tailgator]

The 7 years, of which the mark will be required in the last 42 months, do not start until after the Gog/Magog event in Ezekiel 39.


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Gog does not come against the resurected saints till 1000 years after they are resurected from.their graves in Ezekiel 37..
Ezekiel 37-39 corresponds to revelation 20.
See how your chart is wrong compared to the word of God.

Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.



If you were a servant of Jesus Christ,you would have known these things.But the revelation is not given to you to know and understand.

1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: