The Resurrection = the Commencement of the millennium

[Zao is life]

It's just a funny thing and nothing more. I truly have no idea what he's talking about with this Medes attacking Babylon in the future thing. I think it's completely ridiculous and deserves to be mocked the way we did by referencing him using a time machine. It can't be taken seriously at all.

I know what he means. He means the Israeli govt whose capital is Jerusalem is "Babylon the Great" of the Revelation (or just "Babylon" for short) which is now being attacked by Iran (Medo-Persia), and "Babylon" is attacking the Philistines who are not even the same nation as the Arab Palestinians of today.

-- and he believes his own human imagination that produces all that is God's Word to him. (but not to us)

 

[tailgator]

God very specifically named the harlot of the Old Testament, calling her "Jerusalem".

God very specifically named the harlot of the New Testament, calling her "Babylon the Great" and saying she is seated on many waters which are peoples, nations, tribes and tongues.

You lie and say God called the harlot's name Jerusalem in the Revelation.

God has not changed His Word - you have.

God says Jerusalem is a harlot.
You say she is not.

Walk through the streets of Jerusalem and you may hear 10 languages in a day.The country of Israel is comprised of immigrants from all nations , tongues and peoples.
They all followed the beast from all parts of the world after the deadly wound was healed.


The nation was founded for people who reject Jesus as Christ.

 

[tailgator]

It's just a funny thing and nothing more. I truly have no idea what he's talking about with this Medes attacking Babylon in the future thing. I think it's completely ridiculous and deserves to be mocked the way we did by referencing him using a time machine. It can't be taken seriously at all.

It's a prophecy about the day of the Lord.
Zao believes the day of the Lord was in 539 BC.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

It's a prophecy about the day of the Lord.
Zao believes the day of the Lord was in 539 BC.

No, it isn't. It's about the end of the ancient Babylonian empire. It's not the day of the Lord referenced in passages like 1 Thess 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12 that describe the destruction of the earth when Christ returns. I know no one can trust anything you say with how you undermine the teachings of Paul and think the two witnesses will end up in the lake of fire and such. You have some really wacky ideas and you can't be taken seriously at all.

 

[tailgator]

No, it isn't. Not the same day of the Lord referenced in passages like 1 Thess 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12 that describe the destruction of the earth. I know no one can trust anything you say with how you undermine the teachings of Paul and think the two witnesses will end up in the lake of fire and such. You have some really wacky ideas and you can't be taken seriously at all.

It's not my words.Isaiahs prophecy is about the day of the Lord when all the sinners are destroyed out of the land.
Zao says the day of the Lord was in 539 BC.
Simple as that.

Isaiah 13
9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.

13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.




Jesus talked about it in the gospel.

 

[Zao is life]

God says Jerusalem is a harlot.
You say she is not.

Walk through the streets of Jerusalem and you may hear 10 languages in a day.The country of Israel is comprised of immigrants from all nations , tongues and peoples.
They all followed the beast from all parts of the world after the deadly wound was healed.


The nation was founded for people who reject Jesus as Christ.

8 O daughter of Babylon, who are to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewards you as you have served us.
9 Happy shall he be, that takes and dashes your little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137

Are you saying those who committed atrocities on 7 Oct 2023 are blessed?

And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. -- Isaiah 13:19

Are the Hebrews or the Jews the Chaldees?

Washington and London and Berlin and Paris and Sydney etc etc are harlots. Because they are supposed to be "Christian" nations or nations founded on Christian principles. Jerusalem of today is no more or less of a harlot than New Delhi and Shanghai.

God calls Babylon the Great located on MANY waters which are peoples, nations, tribes and tongues a harlot.

You say she is not, and claim God speaks to you when you say so, and imply that anyone who disagrees with you is calling God a liar.

You are a false teacher. False prophet. Whatever you regard yourself as. Teacher or prophet, I don't know.

 

[tailgator]

8 O daughter of Babylon, who are to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewards you as you have served us.
9 Happy shall he be, that takes and dashes your little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137

Are you saying those who committed atrocities on 7 Oct 2023 are blessed?

And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. -- Isaiah 13:19

Are the Hebrews or the Jews the Chaldees?

Washington and London and Berlin and Paris and Sydney etc etc are harlots. Because they are supposed to be "Christian" nations or nations founded on Christian principles. Jerusalem of today is no more or less of a harlot than New Delhi and Shanghai.

God calls Babylon the Great located on MANY waters which are peoples, nations, tribes and tongues a harlot.

You say she is not, and claim God speaks to you when you say so, and imply that anyone who disagrees with you is calling God a liar.

You are a false teacher. False prophet. Whatever you regard yourself as. Teacher or prophet, I don't know.

8 O daughter of Babylon, who are to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewards you as you have served us.
9 Happy shall he be, that takes and dashes your little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137


I didn't say anything about anyone being blessed and nor does David in this verse.

It does not say they are blessed.It says they are happy.Its like after the two witnesses are killed.There is a celebration throughout Jerusalem and the middle east over their deaths.Thee is also celebration at that time over the death of the king of Babylon.Its just a joyous location for the people who the two witnesses and the king of Babylon have been tormenting.


Isaiah 14
6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.


Revelation 11
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.



David,Isaiah nor revelation says that anyone of these people are blessed.It only says it's a merry time for celebration after the two witnesses and the king of Babylon are killed.



The celebration will be short lived because of what the United States does in response but they will celebrate for a few days.

 

[tailgator]

8 O daughter of Babylon, who are to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewards you as you have served us.
9 Happy shall he be, that takes and dashes your little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137

Are you saying those who committed atrocities on 7 Oct 2023 are blessed?

And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. -- Isaiah 13:19

Are the Hebrews or the Jews the Chaldees?

Washington and London and Berlin and Paris and Sydney etc etc are harlots. Because they are supposed to be "Christian" nations or nations founded on Christian principles. Jerusalem of today is no more or less of a harlot than New Delhi and Shanghai.

God calls Babylon the Great located on MANY waters which are peoples, nations, tribes and tongues a harlot.

You say she is not, and claim God speaks to you when you say so, and imply that anyone who disagrees with you is calling God a liar.

You are a false teacher. False prophet. Whatever you regard yourself as. Teacher or prophet, I don't know.

Even the people in Gaza will rejoice when the king of Babylon and the two witnesses die.As I said,the celebration will be short lived because a few days later all of them are dissolved.They melt and are consumed.

Jesus's reign in the millinial kingdom begins in verse 32 below.3.5 days after the two witnesses are killed.On the same day palestinia is dissolved.

Isaiah 14

29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.

30 And the firstborn of the poor shall feed, and the needy shall lie down in safety: and I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.

31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.

32 What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the Lord hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.

 

[Zao is life]

Walk through the streets of Jerusalem and you may hear 10 languages in a day.The country of Israel is comprised of immigrants from all nations , tongues and peoples.
They all followed the beast from all parts of the world after the deadly wound was healed.
The nation was founded for people who reject Jesus as Christ.

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. -- Revelation 13:3

The deadly wound you are talking about is one of the heads of the beast.

Who is the beast?

God gives you a clue, but you do not recognize it because you have chosen to identify a different beast:

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion.

Daniel 7
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

They had all come and gone by the time John received the Revelation. The fourth beast is this one:

The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the abyss, and go into perdition Revelation 17:8.

None of them are talking about Jerusalem, of whom God promised that though He will not leave them unpunished, yet He will destroy the nations and the evil of all the nations that come against her.

And to all those inhabitants of the whole world who cannot tell the difference between evil and good, and darkness and light God says,

"Woe to those who pull evil along using cords of deception and destruction, who pull sin as with cart ropes." (Isaiah 5:18). "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who turn darkness into light and light into darkness, who turn bitter into sweet and sweet into bitter." -- Isaiah 5:20

"Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!" -- Isaiah 5:21.

 

[tailgator]

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. -- Revelation 13:3

The deadly wound you are talking about is one of the heads of the beast.

Who is the beast?

God gives you a clue, but you do not recognize it because you have chosen to identify a different beast:

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion.

Daniel 7
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

They had all come and gone by the time John received the Revelation. The fourth beast is this one:

The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the abyss, and go into perdition Revelation 17:8.

None of them are talking about Jerusalem, of whom God promised that though He will not leave them unpunished, yet He will destroy the nations and the evil of all the nations that come against her.

And to all those inhabitants of the whole world who cannot tell the difference between evil and good, and darkness and light God says,

"Woe to those who pull evil along using cords of deception and destruction, who pull sin as with cart ropes." (Isaiah 5:18). "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who turn darkness into light and light into darkness, who turn bitter into sweet and sweet into bitter." -- Isaiah 5:20

"Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!" -- Isaiah 5:21.

Let me ask you a question.Its a very simple question that anyone who has read the gospel can answer.


Who tried to kill Jesus as soon as he was born?


I don't want an opinion.I wants the facts as stated in the gospel.
Who tried to have Jesus killed as soon as he was born,?What's the man's name?

 

[Zao is life]

Who tried to kill Jesus as soon as he was born?

Who tried to have Jesus killed as soon as he was born,?What's the man's name?

Here are the facts as stated in the Bible:

He is not a man and does not have a name, but is called Satan, the adversary and the dragon.

"And the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born".

 

[Zao is life]

Let me ask you a question.Its a very simple question that anyone who has read the gospel can answer.


Who tried to kill Jesus as soon as he was born?


I don't want an opinion.I wants the facts as stated in the gospel.
Who tried to have Jesus killed as soon as he was born,?What's the man's name?

I answered your question in Post #171

Now answer these questions:

Since you mentioned the gospel implying that the one who does not know the answer (which I quoted in Post #171) does not know the gospel,

Who had the sin, according to Paul in 3:23, and who is the most guilty according to Romans 5:12?

Who is excluded according to Romans 3:24?

 

[Zao is life]

Let me ask you a question.Its a very simple question that anyone who has read the gospel can answer.


Who tried to kill Jesus as soon as he was born?


I don't want an opinion.I wants the facts as stated in the gospel.
Who tried to have Jesus killed as soon as he was born,?What's the man's name?

I answered your question,

Now answer the questions I asked in return, and also answer the biblical facts mentioned in this post which you completely avoided by asking a question:

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. -- Revelation 13:3

The deadly wound you are talking about is one of the heads of the beast.

Who is the beast?

God gives you a clue, but you do not recognize it because you have chosen to identify a different beast:

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion.

Daniel 7
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

They had all come and gone by the time John received the Revelation. The fourth beast is this one:

The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the abyss, and go into perdition Revelation 17:8.

None of them are talking about Jerusalem, of whom God promised that though He will not leave them unpunished, yet He will destroy the nations and the evil of all the nations that come against her.

And to all those inhabitants of the whole world who cannot tell the difference between evil and good, and darkness and light God says,

"Woe to those who pull evil along using cords of deception and destruction, who pull sin as with cart ropes." (Isaiah 5:18). "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who turn darkness into light and light into darkness, who turn bitter into sweet and sweet into bitter." -- Isaiah 5:20

"Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!" -- Isaiah 5:21.

 

[tailgator]

Here are the facts as stated in the Bible:

He is not a man and does not have a name, but is called Satan, the adversary and the dragon.

"And the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born".

Wrong.
The mans name was Herod.He was king of Judea.
I even told you it was in the gospel .Do you not even read the gospel?

"Herod will seek the young child to destroy him."



Mathew 2
13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.

14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:

15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.

16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men.

 

[tailgator]

I answered your question,

Now answer the questions I asked in return, and also answer the biblical facts mentioned in this post which you completely avoided by asking a question:

You didn't answer the question.You did t know the answer.
The answer is Herod,king of the Jews.

As soon as the two witnesses arrive in Herods kingdom,the woman will have to flee into the wilderness for 1260 days while they occupy Judea.

 

[Zao is life]

Wrong.
The mans name was Herod.He was king of Judea.
I even told you it was in the gospel .Do you not even read the gospel?

"Herod will seek the young child to destroy him."



Mathew 2
13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.

14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:

15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.

16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men.

His actions cannot be ascribed to the Jews, but only to Rome because he was not a legitimate Jewish king, having seized the throne illegitimately, was not even ethnically Jewish, and was not accepted by the Jews. Nor was his allegiance to God and to Israel but to Ceasar and to Rome. He was the Roman puppet-king dressed up by Rome to look like a king of the Jews. But the Jews were not fooled by it.

Anyway you have just said that scripture is wrong because I quoted scripture telling us who attempted to have Jesus killed when he was born and you said it (scripture) is wrong, and besides that, your ideas about the two witnesses is beyond the pale.

You are so far removed from a proper understanding of the scriptures that it's not worth talking to you about this anymore. Not sure if you even understand the gospel or if you believe a different gospel to the one announced by Christ and delivered by His apostles. Hopefully you do.​

 

[Zao is life]

You didn't answer the question.You did t know the answer.
The answer is Herod,king of the Jews.

As soon as the two witnesses arrive in Herods kingdom,the woman will have to flee into the wilderness for 1260 days while they occupy Judea.

I answered the question and it's notable how you have failed to answer the questions I asked you, or to answer the fact that I showed where Revelation shows your theories up for what they are - concocted in your own mind.

Your attempts at controlling the discussion have failed because after giving you enough rope to prove what a false teacher you are and how bizarre your interpretations of scripture are, I'm done with talking to you after this post.

Here are the questions you have failed to answer or cannot answer:

Who had the sin, according to Paul in 3:23, and who is the most guilty according to Romans 5:12?

Who is excluded according to Romans 3:24?

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. -- Revelation 13:3

The deadly wound you are talking about is one of the heads of the beast.

Who is the beast?

God gives you a clue, but you do not recognize it because you have chosen to identify a different beast:

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion.

Daniel 7
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

They had all come and gone by the time John received the Revelation. The fourth beast is this one:

The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the abyss, and go into perdition Revelation 17:8.

None of them are talking about Jerusalem, of whom God promised that though He will not leave them unpunished, yet He will destroy the nations and the evil of all the nations that come against her.

And to all those inhabitants of the whole world who cannot tell the difference between evil and good, and darkness and light God says,

"Woe to those who pull evil along using cords of deception and destruction, who pull sin as with cart ropes." (Isaiah 5:18). "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who turn darkness into light and light into darkness, who turn bitter into sweet and sweet into bitter." -- Isaiah 5:20

"Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!" -- Isaiah 5:21.

 

[tailgator]

His actions cannot be ascribed to the Jews, but only to Rome because he was not a legitimate Jewish king, having seized the throne illegitimately, was not even ethnically Jewish, and was not accepted by the Jews. Nor was his allegiance to God and to Israel but to Ceasar and to Rome. He was the Roman puppet-king dressed up by Rome to look like a king of the Jews. But the Jews were not fooled by it.

Anyway you have just said that scripture is wrong because I quoted scripture telling us who attempted to have Jesus killed when he was born and you said it (scripture) is wrong, and besides that, your ideas about the two witnesses is beyond the pale.

You are so far removed from a proper understanding of the scriptures that it's not worth talking to you about this anymore. Not sure if you even understand the gospel or if you believe a different gospel to the one announced by Christ and delivered by His apostles. Hopefully you do.​

Rome did not try to kill Jesus
Herod tried to kill Jesus because Herod was king of the Jews and didn't want to loose his throne.

The wise men were looking for the newborn king of Israel.King if the Jews
mot keep me of Rome

As for Herod,he was a Jew.
He was just as Jewish as just about anyone in Israel today.Amdvyiu say Herods actions can not be ascribed to a Jew .Herod was a Jew.
Lol

 

[tailgator]

His actions cannot be ascribed to the Jews, but only to Rome because he was not a legitimate Jewish king, having seized the throne illegitimately, was not even ethnically Jewish, and was not accepted by the Jews. Nor was his allegiance to God and to Israel but to Ceasar and to Rome. He was the Roman puppet-king dressed up by Rome to look like a king of the Jews. But the Jews were not fooled by it.

Anyway you have just said that scripture is wrong because I quoted scripture telling us who attempted to have Jesus killed when he was born and you said it (scripture) is wrong, and besides that, your ideas about the two witnesses is beyond the pale.

You are so far removed from a proper understanding of the scriptures that it's not worth talking to you about this anymore. Not sure if you even understand the gospel or if you believe a different gospel to the one announced by Christ and delivered by His apostles. Hopefully you do.​

And false
I didn't say the scripture was wrong
I said yuh are wrong.
I asked what's the man's name who tried to kill Jesus and you said he didn't have a name which is a lie.
The man's name is Herod and he was king of the Jews.And you blame Rome for something a wild beast man named Herod did.Shame on you.

 

[tailgator]

I answered the question and it's notable how you have failed to answer the questions I asked you, or to answer the fact that I showed where Revelation shows your theories up for what they are - concocted in your own mind.

Your attempts at controlling the discussion have failed because after giving you enough rope to prove what a false teacher you are and how bizarre your interpretations of scripture are, I'm done with talking to you after this post.

Here are the questions you have failed to answer or cannot answer:

Who had the sin, according to Paul in 3:23, and who is the most guilty according to Romans 5:12?

Who is excluded according to Romans 3:24?

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. -- Revelation 13:3

The deadly wound you are talking about is one of the heads of the beast.

Who is the beast?

God gives you a clue, but you do not recognize it because you have chosen to identify a different beast:

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion.

Daniel 7
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

They had all come and gone by the time John received the Revelation. The fourth beast is this one:

The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the abyss, and go into perdition Revelation 17:8.

None of them are talking about Jerusalem, of whom God promised that though He will not leave them unpunished, yet He will destroy the nations and the evil of all the nations that come against her.

And to all those inhabitants of the whole world who cannot tell the difference between evil and good, and darkness and light God says,

"Woe to those who pull evil along using cords of deception and destruction, who pull sin as with cart ropes." (Isaiah 5:18). "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who turn darkness into light and light into darkness, who turn bitter into sweet and sweet into bitter." -- Isaiah 5:20

"Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!" -- Isaiah 5:21.

You would blame anyone but the beast.
You blame Rome because the Jewish beast Herod tried to kill Jesus.Shame on you.


You would blame Italy for everything Benjamin netanyahu does in the bible.