The Great Commission,.....the end of the age – Done!

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APAK

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The task is to the end, with respect to time, of the Age of the ages. It is not a spatial requirement that we are to meet, but one of evangelising the people around us until Christ returns to judge all of the people of the earth.
And this task to the 'end' I reckon must be in scripture? To what 'end' Jay? Is it truly the 'end' for today and tomorrow? Or as scripture explicitly says, it began and was completed within the 1st century; evangelism came in power, in formal command, to the then 'known' world, for that previous age. And it was so, Amen! And this 'end' and that age came to a complete and lasting end indeed, in the form of the destruction of Judea and Jerusalem in 70 AD. We lived soon after that time and today and into the foreseeable future, in this last age, before the world is completely 'changed' to another last age event, absent of this so-called commission to evangelize. Today we can and do evangelize by the 'different' lesser power of the same Spirit of God, as the Spirit leads for its purpose..... a different purpose as n the 1st Century...

You might have added in your own thoughts concerning this non-spatial form of evangelism for today and tomorrow. It is never in the same power of the Spirit of God and its/his direction, as in the 1st Century, and you must know this already. There is NO formal 'Church' command to continue later and today, and by a lessened-power of the Spirit to evangelize the world again and again in every generation is vanity, in the vanity and pride of foolish men who desire to make a name for themselves. It is a false and destructive doctrine indeed, and still continue today, to mislead. And to what, end?

Your modern eschatological view has taken hold you and your sense over scripture and Jesus' words regarding this subject, I'm afraid.
 
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Yes...and what has ensued since, is the gentile version of that same type of blindness that overcame Israel, causing both the Jews and the gentiles to have rejected the coming of Messiah when He came.

Even so, the spirit of God is poured out upon all flesh, and the finish of the mystery of God that was to come has now come. These are the times that were to come just before the sounding of the seventh angel. Then comes the end.
Amen! I'm going to buy your book!

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You might have added in your own thoughts

We can understand that if we have taken the gospel to "ends of the earth, spatially, that we have completed the task of taking the Gospel to all of the earth, which is what you have implied in your response. You have also asked if the Gospel message, i.e., evangelism, is also spatial in character, whereas I was not suggesting that at all. If people do not form a personal relationship with God/Christ, then although they may know of God and the "Law" requirements that He has put in place, then Christ's condemnation of them that He never knew them, even though they spoke in tongues, and performed miracles in His Name, etc., is very much in play because they did not establish a personal relationship with God/Christ except for their own gains.

Now when I stated that the great commission to evangelise everybody was to be taken to the end of the Age of the seven ages. If we are not evangelising, then we have turned away from God/Christ and no longer have any relationship with God/Christ.

Now I am not intending to enter into an intellectual discussion with you so if you do not believe that what I posted above is not in line with the word of God, then I am fine with that as that is your problem to sort out and not mine.

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Some history of the deviant, rebellious, Christian religious orders and churches that emerged in the 2nd century AD, and deliberately defied scripture regarding the evangelization of nations of the 1st Century. It was set to take on a new human rebellious religious force of human conquest, using, with God and his scripture on their side, as their excuse, as they made the claim, over the next centuries.

The Roman Catholic church primarily focused on establishing and consolidating its religious-political and economic influence and presence in the Mediterranean world, as it concurrently considered itself as an instrument in God’s hands to prepare all people for the final encounter with the Lord, in Parousia, or His second coming in glory. So, they established their church as the primary means of possessing the Kingdom of God on earth, and with the installation of sinful men or hierarchy of clergy, and even popes as Christ representatives or vicars of Christ on earth.

The RCC developed an extensive evangelist program over the centuries, where the gospel and the RCC of their own Kingdom inheritance, forced many to capitulate to it under the threat of even death.

This type of evangelism went on for over 1600 years. They spread their own Kingdom church on earth and caused so much death and despair in the nations in its wake.

One notable example is the forced conversions of converted Khazarian 'Jews' and Muslims during the Spanish Inquisition, which took place from the 15th to the 17th centuries. During this period, many of these types of Jews and Muslims were forced to convert to Catholicism, often under the threat of persecution or violence. This was particularly true in Spain and Portugal, where the Inquisition was most active.

Another example is the forced conversions of pagans and heretics during the Middle Ages. The Church often used coercion and force to convert people to Catholicism, particularly in areas where the Church was seeking to expand its influence. This was often done through the use of missionaries, who would travel to distant lands and convert people to Catholicism through a combination of persuasion, coercion, and force.

There have also been instances where the Church has used force to convert people to Catholicism in more recent times. For example, during the colonial era, many indigenous peoples were forced to convert to Catholicism by European colonizers. Similarly, during the 19th and 20th centuries, many people were forced to convert to Catholicism in areas where the Church was seeking to expand its influence and political clout.

Other ‘Christian’ movements, such as the Protestant Reformation, emphasized the need for individual spiritual renewal and the spread of Christianity to new regions and cultures. It did however do the same type of coercive measures and methods of evangelism as the RCC used, although in a ‘kinder and more gentle’ way.

Incidentally, the ‘Great Commission’ (GC) term was coined in 17th century and turned the entire view of scripture and Jesus’ words on its head completely. On the heels of the age of discovery, evangelizing missionaries capitalized on their national government’s political-economic and miliary prowess embarking in seagoing adventures on the high seas, as they plundered and invaded other countries, of their precious resources and wealth and destroying many cultures and lifestyles.

Baron Justinian von Welz, a 17th-century Lutheran nobleman, is believed to have coined the term “Great Commission” and argued that the words in Matthew 28 meant that all Christians were required to spread the faith, not just Jesus’ closest disciples and those present on the Day of Pentecost. This suggests that Welz viewed the Great Commission as an ongoing commandment for all Christians, rather than a one-time event. And this is dead wrong! It is one thing to share the gospel with someone for their salvation, and it’s another to mimic and attempt to replicate in a selfish way, what was performed in the 1st century for a deliberate design purpose of God.

Additionally, Hudson Taylor, an Englishman who founded the China Inland Mission in 1866, is believed to have used the idea of the Great Commission to justify Christian missionary efforts. Taylor’s quote, “The Great Commission is not an option to be considered, but it is a command to be obeyed,” implies that he viewed the Great Commission as a continuous obligation for Christians to spread the faith.

Today, in the 21st century, the reason for evangelism beside its nearly conjured up 2000 year standing extra-scriptural view that the world still needs evangelized with the gospel, has lost its appeal and purpose in true meaning. So has this so-called ‘great commission’ finally ended?

Is there still a sense of urgency for spreading the gospels to every nation, again, and again for every generation, as many sense the ‘return’ of Christ, very soon? I think this is futile, in attempt to please God through our own collective human efforts. The Spirit of holiness, within us, each and every believer, act as an instrument of God’s purpose that causes each one, personally, to lead others to the gospel and salvation, and not through our own collective national, community or denominational will and pride.

When Christ ‘returns’ it will be in might and for destruction, as it is the time of harvesting his elect out of this earth into immortality, into the kingdom of his Father. There shall be no special rewards for any self-induced efforts in order to please God, through false non-spirit driven methods and works. These works will surely be 'burned up.'

‘Churches’ need to re-evaluate their scripture-based missions again, and if they are truly led by the Spirit or rather themselves, for other selfish benefits and not for the true work of Christ. And the great commission ended, with that particular age, of the words spoken by Christ, after he said 'it is finished.' Done now, for over 2000 years.

I like your take on that.

I think it was in the Thomas Gospel wherein Jesus said the kingdom of God is spread out across the whole world. People just can't see it.
 
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Even so, the spirit of God is poured out upon all flesh, and the finish of the mystery of God that was to come has now come. These are the times that were to come just before the sounding of the seventh angel. Then comes the end.
End of what? End of civilization? The end of the human race? The end of the earth?
Civilizations come and go. The earth will vaporize when the sun goes nova in about 13 billion years from now. We have a modern day fear based Hitler who would rather have a nuclear holocaust than lose his power. I quote,
"What is the world without Russia." Is that the end you refer to?
I believe in the Second Coming, just like you. I don't believe the spirit of God is a spirit of fear. This "end time" obsession isn't healthy. Fear of the Church, fear of the Pope, fear of priests, fear of persecution, real or imagined. Fear of authentic miracles of God, dismissed by some as the work of Satan, fear caused by "book of Revelation" charlatans and self proclaimed experts. Fear of institutions, fear of absurd conspiracy theories. Fear of war. Fear of the seventh angel. Fear, fear, fear.
We are not afraid. God is in control. He doesn't rescind His promises to protect His Church from error.
 
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Here’s why John Paul II said “Do not be afraid”​


Christians should not be afraid of any storm that may buffet them, for they have their hope in Jesus Christ, who came to save the world from darkness.

For St. John Paul II, nothing should take away our hope in the Lord. When we know that God is in control, and that he is love, our fears disappear.

Peoples and nations of the entire world need to hear these words. Their conscience needs to grow in the certainty that Someone exists who holds in His hands the destiny of this passing world … And this Someone is Love.
God is love, and if we truly understand that, we no longer have fear of the “present world situation,” even if it grows darker.

God is love and he is in control.
read more here, don't be afraid
 

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End of what? End of civilization? The end of the human race? The end of the earth?
Civilizations come and go. The earth will vaporize when the sun goes nova in about 13 billion years from now. We have a modern day fear based Hitler who would rather have a nuclear holocaust than lose his power. I quote,
"What is the world without Russia." Is that the end you refer to?
I believe in the Second Coming, just like you. I don't believe the spirit of God is a spirit of fear. This "end time" obsession isn't healthy. Fear of the Church, fear of the Pope, fear of priests, fear of persecution, real or imagined. Fear of authentic miracles of God, dismissed by some as the work of Satan, fear caused by "book of Revelation" charlatans and self proclaimed experts. Fear of institutions, fear of absurd conspiracy theories. Fear of war. Fear of the seventh angel. Fear, fear, fear.
We are not afraid. God is in control. He doesn't rescind His promises to protect His Church from error.

We have no need to fear the end, but many do. But I was not meaning to threaten or cause undue fear, only to note the time.

The end that I was referring to is biblical. Which is the end and finish of revelations from God (as He declared to His servants the prophets), and the end of time as we know it. Revelation 10
 
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You have tied the preaching of the gospel to all the 'known' world, by the disciples and their many thousands of converts in the 1st century, to a future timeline

You are ignoring the timeline and the events thereof in the scripture I cited.

You are tied up in some false doctrine that won’t allow you to reconsider.