THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27

[Davy]

When Jesus returns, in Revelation 19:20, the beast-king and the false prophet will be cast alive into the lake of fire.

Differently, Satan, in Revelation 20:1-3, will be cast into the bottomless pit.

So the coming false-Christ, i.e. the Antichrist, cannot be Satan.

the little horn/prince that shall come/Antichrist/revealed man of sin/beast-king person will be an actual Jew.

That above is irrelevant. Because ONLY Satan and his angels so far have already been judged and sentenced to perdition in the "lake of fire", and that means NO flesh-born man has been sentenced to perish yet, because that Judgment Seat by Jesus Christ does not happen until AFTER His future return per Revelation 20:11-15. So if you think today flesh-born peoples have already been judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire", then you and I do not worship the same God.

What then does that mean who the "false prophet" and "beast" of Revelation 19:20 are?

It means those are only ROLES that Satan himself will play, and that is why those 2 ROLES are destroyed on the day of Christ's coming but Satan himself is not destroyed yet. That word "beast" can refer to either the beast kingdom of ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns of Rev.13:1, or to the beast 'king' idea of Rev.17. In Revelation 13:11 with the "another beast", that is Satan as that one who speaks as a "dragon".


I don't know how you figure that it can't be Satan when God's Word is pointing directly to... Satan by that "dragon" reference. Want another example from God's Word? Here...

Rev 12:17
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
KJV

And this...

Dan 7:20-22
20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
KJV

And this...

Dan 7:25
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
KJV

And this...

Dan 8:24
24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
KJV

They are all pointing to that same "dragon" (Satan) of Revelation 12:9.

 

[Davy]

When Jesus returns, in Revelation 19:20, the beast-king and the false prophet will be cast alive into the lake of fire.

Differently, Satan, in Revelation 20:1-3, will be cast into the bottomless pit.

So the coming false-Christ, i.e. the Antichrist, cannot be Satan.

the little horn/prince that shall come/Antichrist/revealed man of sin/beast-king person will be an actual Jew.

So many people today are tremendously duped by this material world, that they cannot understand about that other dimension of existence God's Word speaks of, nor how those of that other dimension of Spirit can supernaturally affect this world directly, even right in plain sight!

Stupid Hollywood movies have so many brainwashed about that other dimension with their idiotic ghost and ghoul stories that it makes most folks scared to even think about that other dimension of the Heavenly.

Thus they never are able to even fathom how Satan himself could come to our earthly dimension, and appear on earth with the image of man (which he also has), and work those great signs and wonders and miracles that will be so powerful, it will deceive the whole... world (except not Christ's elect).

Even many of my Christian brethren fall into that same category of unbelief, which reveals something else about their true belief of what God's Word teaches. They show they really don't believe all the Biblical witnesses of angels appearing on earth to man, and working wonders in our earthly dimension in their plain sight.

And you are just another one of the many brethren that rejects what God's Word teaches about that, and thus you are well prepared to be deceived by that "dragon" when he arrives here on earth with his angels per the Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture.

Heb 13:2
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
KJV

 

[covenantee]

Thanks for the laugh.

Are you ashamed of your gnosis/gnosticism?

 

[Douggg]

What then does that mean who the "false prophet" and "beast" of Revelation 19:20 are?

It means those are only ROLES that Satan himself will play, and that is why those 2 ROLES are destroyed on the day of Christ's coming but Satan himself is not destroyed yet. That word "beast" can refer to either the beast kingdom of ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns of Rev.13:1, or to the beast 'king' idea of Rev.17. In Revelation 13:11 with the "another beast", that is Satan as that one who speaks as a "dragon".

Davy, Satan can not split himself into being two side by side persons.

The beast-king will be a man.
The false prophet will be a man.

Satan, a fallen angel, will indwell the statue image of the beast-king. When Jesus returns, that statue image will be turned to ashes and Satan exposed for everyone present that day to see. Ezekiel 28:16-19.

The beast-king and the false prophet will be cast into the lake of fire that day.
Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit prison for a thousand years that day.

At the end of the thousand years, Satan will be released for a short time, to deceive the nations one last time to attack Israel. The attack will be quickly ended by God, the attackers destroyed by fire from heaven. Revelation 20:7-10

Satan then will be cast into the lake of fire to join the beast-king and the false prophet will already be.

Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Are you ashamed of your gnosis/gnosticism?

Just because you tried to label me as gnosticist does not mean its true. I am against gnosis/gnosticism. You just can't prove my position wrong biblically, so you decided to call me a gnosis. Weak.

 

[covenantee]

Just because you tried to label me as gnosticist does not mean its true. I am against gnosis/gnosticism. You just can't prove my position wrong biblically, so you decided to call me a gnosis. Weak.

Good.

So then you believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh as both God and man.

What took you so long?

 

[TribulationSigns]

Good.

So then you believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh as both God and man.

What took you so long?

So? I answered. Move on.

 

[Davy]

Davy, Satan can not split himself into being two side by side persons.

Don't know where you got that above weird idea, it certainly is NOT from The Bible.

The beast-king will be a man.
The false prophet will be a man.

Those statements above too are just confusion, because ALL... angels have the image of 'man', as that image of man originates from GOD's Own Image Likeness in the Heavenly, as written in Genesis 1:26-27. So you reveal you don't even know what the very first chapter of The Bible states.

You show you haven't even figured out why the angels in The Old Testament Books of Job and Genesis 6 are called "SONS of God", meaning they have the likeness of 'male' sons.

You simply show how you are not... keeping God's Word, but instead have fallen away to men's theories influenced by Satan and his workers. They are the ones who came up with the false idea that the image of man must always mean one born in the flesh. You need to come out of that.

 

[Douggg]

Don't know where you got that above weird idea, it certainly is NOT from The Bible.

Davy, you had expressed in your post #201 that you think the beast-king and the false prophet are two roles that Satan will present himself as, i.e. two persons.

But those two persons act side by side - not sequential.

So if Satan were to be the beast-king (the Antichrist) person, he could not simultaneously be the false prophet person.

I would agree that Satan will empower both and put ideas into their heads. But Satan will not literally be either beast-king (the Antichrist) nor false prophet.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Davy, you had expressed in your post #201 that you think the beast-king and the false prophet are two roles that Satan will present himself as, i.e. two persons.

But those two persons act side by side - not sequential.

So if Satan were to be the beast-king (the Antichrist) person, he could not simultaneously be the false prophet person.

I would agree that Satan will empower both and put ideas into their heads. But Satan will not literally be either beast-king (the Antichrist) nor false prophet.

Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

He apparently thinks that Satan gives power to himself. It's just complete nonsense.

Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

The dragon, beast and false prophet are presented as 3 different, separate entities but he tries to say they are all the same. He can't be taken seriously about this.

 

[Douggg]

Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Yes, that verse also verifies that there will be three separate individuals.

 

[Davy]

Davy, you had expressed in your post #201 that you think the beast-king and the false prophet are two roles that Satan will present himself as, i.e. two persons.

So now you can't even distinguish the difference between the idea of ROLES, like in a STAGE PLAY, vs. actual PERSONS?

Satan has many titles, but he is still just one... entity, or person. Same thing with his future ROLES as the "false prophet" and the "beast" king.

Satan is who is coming to earth, in plain sight, to play Jesus Christ as a false-Messiah. The majority of the world will believe he will be God, and deceived brethren who listen to Satan's workers that have taken over their pulpits will believe he is Lord Jesus Christ.


Biblical Facts:
Lord Jesus was also declared a Prophet (Deut.18:18; John 1:45).
Lord Jesus is also a KING, actually "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS" (Rev.19:16).
Lord Jesus is declared as The Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6).
So is there more than One Jesus Christ?? NO! of course not!

Satan is also declared as a 'king' (Rev.9:11).
Satan is also declared to be a "prince" (John 12:31; John 16:11; Ephesians 2:2).
Satan has claimed that he will be like The Most High, GOD (Isaiah 14:14).
Satan as the "dragon" the whole world will worship (Rev.13:4).
The "another beast" speaks as the "dragon", which is who scholars link the "false prophet" to.

It don't taken an anvil to hit me on the head to figure that above out, that Satan is coming to mimic the same ROLES that Lord Jesus Christ has per God's Word, and that is as GOD The Son, and KING OF KINGS, and as The Prophet Moses spoke of.


Furthermore, you don't worship the same God that I worship, because God has not yet judged and sentenced ANY flesh-born person to perish in the "lake of fire" yet. Not even Judas Iscariot has been judged to perish yet. ONLY Satan and his angels so far have already been judged and sentenced to perish in the "lake of fire". So that makes it VERY EASY to understand that the "beast" and "false prophet" of Rev.19:20 that go into the "lake of fire" on the day of Christ's future coming, CANNOT mean flesh men, for the Judgment and sentence to perish in the "lake of fire" doesn't happen for flesh-born people until after Christ's "thousand years" reign of Rev.20.

 

[Jay Ross]

Furthermore, you don't worship the same God that I worship, because God has not yet judged and sentenced ANY flesh-born person to perish in the "lake of fire" yet. Not even Judas Iscariot has been judged to perish yet. ONLY Satan and his angels so far have already been judged and sentenced to perish in the "lake of fire".

Oh Davy, your statement quoted above does not reflect what Isaiah wrote in Isaiah 24:21-22 which will play out at the end of the sixth age/beginning of the seventh age when the Kings of the earth are drawn to assemble at Armageddon to be judged and the heavenly hosts are judged in heaven at the same time, and together they will be gathered together and imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit for a period of many days, i.e. for 1,000 years, to await the time of their punishment in the Lake of Fire.

The end of the sixth age will occur in our future in around 20 years' time from now.

This timeframe is pointed to in Mathhew 24:31 when promptly understood.

Shalom

Please note that the signs of the drawing of the kings of the earth to Armageddon to be judged is described in Revelation 16:12-16 with the signs and wonders performed by the three frog like spirits already having been seen around all of the earth by all of the people who sat in front of their TVs in their homes etc. back in 2001.

 

[Douggg]

So that makes it VERY EASY to understand that the "beast" and "false prophet" of Rev.19:20 that go into the "lake of fire" on the day of Christ's future coming, CANNOT mean flesh men, for the Judgment and sentence to perish in the "lake of fire" doesn't happen for flesh-born people until after Christ's "thousand years" reign of Rev.20.

Davy, in the text of Revelation 19:19-Revelation 20:15 is...

Revelation 19:19 - the beast-king and false prophet will be cast alive into the lake of fire.
Revelation 20:1-3 - Satan will then be cast into the bottomless pit prison.
Revelation 20:6 - Jesus will then rule here on earth a thousand years.
Revelation 20:7 - Satan, after the thousand years, will then be released from the bottomless pit prison.
Revelation 20:8 - Satan will then deceive the nations one last time to attack Israel and Jerusalem.
Revelation 20:9 - God destroys the attackers by fire from heaven.
Revelation 20:10 - Satan will then be cast into the lake of fire where the beast-king and false prophet already are (having been cast there a thousand years earlier).
Revelation 20 11-15 - then, the events associated with the great white throne judgment will take place.

 

[Jay Ross]

Davy, in the text of Revelation 19:19-Revelation 20:15 is...

Revelation 19:19 - the beast-king and false prophet will be cast alive into the lake of fire.
Revelation 20:1-3 - Satan will then be cast into the bottomless pit prison.
Revelation 20:6 - Jesus will then rule here on earth a thousand years.
Revelation 20:7 - Satan, after the thousand years, will then be released from the bottomless pit prison.
Revelation 20:8 - Satan will then deceive the nations one last time to attack Israel and Jerusalem.
Revelation 20:9 - God destroys the attackers by fire from heaven.
Revelation 20:10 - Satan will then be cast into the lake of fire where the beast-king and false prophet already are (having been cast there a thousand years earlier).
Revelation 20 11-15 - then, the events associated with the great white throne judgment will take place.

The timeline of Revelation 19 and 20 have the same referenced starting point, Isaiah 24:21-22 and Daniel 7:11-14 tells us that after the beasts of Daniel 7:1-12 are judged and allowed to live for a season, i.e. for 1,000 years, Christ is given dominion over all of the peoples of the earth such that they should worship Him as well as the Everlasting Kingdom which will be established at the time of the many kings referenced in the Statue prophecy of Daniel 2. Understanding that all of the judged heavenly hosts, i.e. Satan, the beast and the Little Horn/False Prophet, are imprisoned at the same time when God will honour His covenant of Peace with the Israelites by removing the beasts from the face of the earth, including Satan by imprisoning them in the Bottomless Pit.

Then after the 1,000-year season, the Bottomless pit will be unlocked and the Little While period of, IMHO, 24 years will begin, and we will see the deeds of them, i.e. the imprisoned kings of the earth, the Beast, the False Prophet and Satan, marching towards Jerusalem as they flow from the Bottomless pit all over the face of the earth challenging the beliefs of the Saints. Now at the end of Revelation 19 we see that the Beast and the False Prophet are captured by Christ and immediately dispatched into the Lake of fire, which is then followed, shortly after, by Satan being Captured and also being dispatched into the Lake of Fire where the beast and the False Prophet where dispatched into.

Douggg, in your zeal to bolster your private theories about the end time you have made the Book of Revelation to be linear in character, whereas some of the Book of Revelation is linear while the other portions of the Book of Revelation are parallel events that will occur.

As such, your commentary and diagrams are a pointless distraction from what is recorded in the Scriptures. Your "wisdom" is lost in wanting to be relevant as a person on this forum.

Goodbye Douggg, may your soul find true peace in the truth of the Word of God.