Hey... how well do you understand Satan? Your sloppy study of Scriptures or no study of Scripture at all because your doctrine is inconsistent and contradictory at every turn, like you did with 70AD.
First, the Old Serpent
symbolizes the unclean spirit of man! Not a created being in heaven as good angel to begin with.
This is why the Serpent in the Garden was called wily or subtil (
cunning, crafty). Sin starts in the deep recesses of the mind through the spirit eyes of justification and rationalization.
2nd Corinthians 11:3
- "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, SO your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."
For example, "
SO," or [
houto] "in-this manner" the mind is corrupted. In other words, that's the way it is corrupted! The serpent worked
within Eve's mind. It wasn't an angelic being, it was
her own spirit in lust that fells into corruption and
leads her (
and us)
astray (Look up in James chapter 1 yourself!). Moreover see in this passage that the Apostle equates the Serpent's beguiling or deceiving Eve to
corruption of the mind from simplicity. Same scenario we see again the corruption beginning in the mind's eye and leading to sin. Consistently, we see the same portrait of the working of sin. The carnal lust Eve had came from the corruption in her mind so that mankind lost that virgin purity through their own lust. Not through a fallen angel from heaven, her own mind was corrupted by her own lust!
You need to understand that we ALL "were" evil spirits, because everyone that denies or disobeys Christ, God's Word is telling us every plainly and unambiguously are. A spirit of disobedience is NOT a good spirit, it's a evil, satanic spirit. When the world becomes more and more evil, it is because the population is increasing but there are less and less people who believe in God. Today it's at
epidemic proportions, keeping in mind that not everyone who says Lord, Lord, truly have the Lord ruling over them, right? Very few are. You
know them by the fruits or works, which are either moved of the spirit of Christ or the Devil.
1st John 4:3
- "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."
These spirits that deny Christ are PEOPLE, not fallen from the sky devils or angelic beings. Ask yourself, who is God talking about here calling them "spirits"? Are they the fallen angelic beings from heaven or is it simply people on earth who deny the resurrection of Christ and having their spirit of disobedience? Humm?
Says the guy who thinks Jesus was talking to a symbol of evil called the devil or Satan while alone in the desert for 40 days and 40 nights.
Matthew 4:1 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3 The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.” 4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”
Mat 4:1
(1) Then was Jesus
led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be
tempted (H5254) of the devil.
The word we keep calling "tempted" is actually the word, TESTED. Jesus was not tempted to sin as we understand the word "tempted" to mean that's had feelings and wanted to sin, that would be sin in THOUGHT and Christ NEVER desired to sin. Christ was tested by Spirit Satan, and yet without sin. In other words, He passed the test by not sinning in THOUGHT (tempted), word or deed. Look up the Word translated tempted yourself. It means tested or tried.
Heb 4:15
For we have not an
high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities (tempted); but was
in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
See, Christ was tried in all points as we are, and yet being tried or tested, and unlike us,
he did not sin. Again, the word means tried or tested. It's the same word we see here.
Heb 11:17
"By faith Abraham,
when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,"
That word tried is the same word. Abraham wasn't tempted, he was tested by God. Same word, same meaning. No one can tempt God with sin, and neither did Satan! He was tested and he passed the test.
For example, Jesus warned that looking at a woman with lust is the sin of adultery already in the heart. Or if someone hates someone, he is guilty of murder in heart. It is all in OUR MIND where the iniquity is. The sin is already there before you even act it. Unlike Jesus Christ, he was tested, and He passed! This is how He could be our sin bearer!
Christ was not trying to show us that he was having a one-on-one conversation with a spiritual created being called Satan, who once was in heaven as you learned in Sunday School.
I wonder how a symbol of evil can be tormented in the lake of fire for eternity (Rev 20:11). I wonder how everlasting fire was prepared for a symbol of evil and his angels (Matt 25:41)?
You need to have zero discernment to not recognize that Satan is a fallen angel and the leader of all fallen angels (Rev 12:9, Matthew 25:41).
I do have discernment on this.
Mat 25:41-46
(41) Then shall
he say also unto them on the left hand,
Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire,
prepared for the devil and his angels:
(42) For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
(43) I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
(44) Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
(45) Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
(46) And
these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Obviously there are some that Christ didn't come to save, and that are cursed, and are destined for everlasting fire. God has prepared a place for those who are cursed from the beginning. Who are "them"? The rest of humanity who have not been saved and have the spirit of disobedience (Satan). The word "angels" is "messengers". Human messengers. That includes all those whose father is the devil and do their father's will. That is their spirit whom they serve. They all together will be cast into everlasting fire that was prepared for them... on the last day.
Hey, Michael, TribSigns doesn't believe Satan is a real evil spirit being who is the leader of all of the other fallen angels.
Archangel Michael is identified with Jesus Christ and serves as the chief Messenger. Revelation 12 does not depict a battle between angels with feathered wings and a red demonic army from Satan. Instead, it symbolizes the spiritual conflict between Jesus Christ and His human messengers (believers), as well as those human messengers influenced by the Spirit of Satan, like the Pharisees and Scribes, within the context of the Kingdom of Heaven, which represents the congregation. In this instance, it refers to the Old Testament congregation of Israel. It is important to note that the messengers with Spirit of Satan no longer have a place in the Kingdom of Heaven BECAUSE they have rejected christ and lost the kingdom representative, remember? Their Old Covenant of Israel fell, in three days, Christ rebuilt it, now filling it with human messengers who will carry out His Will after being born again. This is the ministry of Two Witnesses!
