THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27

[Eternally Grateful]

Do you realize that the New Covenant is an eternal covenant with the Israel of God, Jesus Christ? We, Elect, are under eternal Covenant, which is the New Covenant. The rest within the congregation are merely a representation of the covenant but not truly saved. Many are called, few are chosen.

do you realize the covenant of Dan 9 has absolutely nothing to do with any of this?

No, its in the Bible.



Premillennialism garbage.

Amil garbage.

when you have some actual scripture you want to discuss, let me know,.

until then I will continue to assume what I suspect..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Do you think that the Antichrist must be a Jew ?

He would be a roman As his people destroyed the city in 70Ad

 

[Douggg]

He would be a roman As his people destroyed the city in 70Ad

He will be a Jew coming from the Roman Empire Empire (fourth kingdom, Daniel 7:23-25) manifested in the end times as the EU. He will also be descended from the Julio-Claudians (Revelation 17:10-11).

A Jew, because to become the Antichrist - the king of Israel, perceived messiah - he must be a Jew.

 

[Douggg]

Word of God's response:

God did not divide the Olivet Discourse into different sections of time to fit your flawed doctrine, Douggg!

You, TribulationSigns, are not the Word of God.

The Olivet Discourse is Jesus's response to the comments/questions by the disciples, first as they departed the temple in Matthew 24:1-2, and then after they arrived on the mount of Olives, the disciples questions of when in Matthew 24:3.

Jesus's response was expansive. From when the temple would be destroyed, to the gospel being spread throughout the world, to the end times when He would return, His Second Coming.

Matthew 24:
1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Thus, to analyze and understand the Olivet Discourse, it is necessary place the verses in their appropriate time frames of near term, long term, end times, which I have done in my table.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

He will be a Jew coming from the Roman Empire Empire (fourth kingdom, Daniel 7:23-25) manifested in the end times as the EU. He will also be descended from the Julio-Claudians (Revelation 17:10-11).

A Jew, because to become the Antichrist - the king of Israel, perceived messiah - he must be a Jew.


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He will be a prince of the people who destroy Jerusalem.

Dan 9:
“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall [j]be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.

70 AD.

who is the prince who is to come?

Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”

He confirms a covenant for 7 years
In the middle of this seven years. He places the abomination of desolation in the wing of the temp Or as Jesus called it in Matt 24. the holy place.

 

[Douggg]

He confirms a covenant for 7 years
In the middle of this seven years. He places the abomination of desolation in the wing of the temp Or as Jesus called it in Matt 24. the holy place.

In the kjv, it says "the" covenant. The covenant that Daniel had been praying about his people having broke was the Mt. Sinai covenant.

In Deuteronomy 31:9-31, Moses established a requirement that all future leaders of Israel confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant on a 7 year cycle.

The prince that shall come after becoming the Antichrist, the king of Israel perceived messiah, will confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant for the 7 year cycle by making a big speech from the temple mount that God gave the land of Israel to the children of Israel as theirs forever.



Later, in the middle of the 7 years, after the Antichrist person reveals that he is not the messiah, but the man of sin, and then shortly thereafter the beast-king, the abomination of desolation will be set up in the courtyard of the temple.

Later, that statue image will be indwelt by Satan and people will be required to worship it. When Jesus returns, the statue image will be turned to ashes, exposing Satan there on the temple mount.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

In the kjv, it says "the" covenant. The covenant that Daniel had been praying about his people having broke was the Mt. Sinai covenant.

Yes according to lewv 26. That is not the covenant that is confirmed for 1 week.

In Deuteronomy 31:9-31, Moses established a requirement that all future leaders of Israel confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant on a 7 year cycle.

The prince that shall come after becoming the Antichrist, the king of Israel perceived messiah, will confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant for the 7 year cycle by making a big speech from the temple mount that God gave the land of Israel to the children of Israel as theirs forever.


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Later, in the middle of the 7 years, after the Antichrist person reveals that he is not the messiah, but the man of sin, and then shortly thereafter the beast-king, the abomination of desolation will be set up in the courtyard of the temple.

Later, that statue image will be indwelt by Satan and people will be required to worship it. When Jesus returns, the statue image will be turned to ashes, exposing Satan there on the temple mount.


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lol.. 70 weeks is context.

God is answering Daniels pray by showing that they will be given 70 weeks from this time until the end.


He then tells Daniel what will happen during that time

1. The first 69 weeks are a time when they will be in the land from the command to restore Jerusalem, until messiah the prince.

2. After messiah is cut off, The city and sanctuary will be destroyed and left desolate.

3. In some future time. They will be back in the land, and some covenant will be confirmed with many people (many nations I assume)

4. the covenant will be for one week

5. In the middle of that week, He will put an end to sacrifice by placing an abomination that causes desolation of the holy place.

6. Jesus said after this, which will be seen by everyone. there will be great tribulation such as never has been seen before (matt 24) So great is the time, that if Jesus does not stop it. no flesh will survive (some extinction event will happen)


so my origional comment stands

There has noever been a covenant confirmed by one week

It will be confirmed by the prince who is to come, out of rome

at the end, Christ will return, which also have not happened yet.


so it is yet future

 

[Douggg]

3. In some future time. They will be back in the land, and some covenant will be confirmed with many people (many nations I assume)

I think the with "many" is indicating that Israel will be populous at the time.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

4. the covenant will be for one week

5. In the middle of that week, He will put an end to sacrifice by placing an abomination that causes desolation of the holy place.

If in the middle of the week, the person puts an end to the sacrifice and places the abomination of desolation - he is not confirming the covenant any longer, correct?

So the confirming of the covenant is that of establishing a cycle of one week (7 years). Not the confirming of the covenant continuously for one week (7years) by his actions of adhering to the covenant - which instead he will break the covenant in the middle of the week.

 

[Douggg]

Yes according to lewv 26.

What is "Iewv" ?