THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27

[Eternally Grateful]

I think Leviticus 26 is referring to them repenting of having broke the Mt. Sinai covenant. Which they did repent of their transgressions and came out of the Babylonian captivity.

Lev 26 in a nutshell

1. If you obey

26 ‘You shall not make idols for yourselves;
neither a carved image nor a sacred pillar shall you rear up for yourselves;
nor shall you set up an engraved stone in your land, to bow down to it;
for I am the Lord your God.
2 You shall [a]keep My Sabbaths and reverence My sanctuary:
I am the Lord.
3 ‘If you walk in My statutes and keep My commandments, and perform them,
4 then I will give you rain in its season, the land shall yield its produce, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit.
5 Your threshing shall last till the time of vintage, and the vintage shall last till the time of sowing;
you shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely.
6 I will give peace in the land, and you shall lie down, and none will make you afraid;
I will rid the land of evil[b] beasts,
and the sword will not go through your land.
7 You will chase your enemies, and they shall fall by the sword before you.
8 Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight;
your enemies shall fall by the sword before you.
9 ‘For I will look on you favorably and make you fruitful, multiply you and confirm My covenant with you.
10 You shall eat the old harvest, and clear out the old because of the new.
11 I will set My [c]tabernacle among you, and My soul shall not abhor you.
12 I will walk among you and be your God, and you shall be My people.
13 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that you should not be their slaves;
I have broken the bands of your yoke and made you walk upright.

2. If you disobey

14 ‘But if you do not obey Me, and do not observe all these commandments,
15 and if you despise My statutes, or if your soul abhors My judgments, so that you do not perform all My commandments, but break My covenant,
16 I also will do this to you:

18 ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

21 ‘Then, if you walk contrary to Me, and are not willing to obey Me, I will bring on you seven times more plagues, according to your sins.

23 ‘And if by these things you are not reformed by Me, but walk contrary to Me,
24 then I also will walk contrary to you, and I will punish you yet seven times for your sins.

27 ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me,
28 then I also will walk contrary to you in fury;
and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.

the final being what we have discussed

3 But if they repent,...

40 ‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me,
41 and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies;
if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—
42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember;
I will remember the land.
43 The land also shall be left empty by them, and will enjoy its sabbaths while it lies desolate without them;
they will accept their guilt, because they despised My judgments and because their soul abhorred My statutes.
44 Yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, nor shall I abhor them, to utterly destroy them and break My covenant with them;
for I am the Lord their God.
45 But for their sake I will remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God:
I am the Lord.’ ”

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Liar. Obvoiusly you did not read carefully what I asked:

Where did I ask "when" like you falsely accused? Shame on you.

You need to stop judging me or you will be judged with equal measure! We had been talking in terms of when things had happened and you were accusing me of interpreting the Olivet Discourse like preterists do. So, I thought the point of your question was to indicate when those things were occurring to show that I did not believe they were occurring around 70 AD. It didn't even occur to me that those things could be understood in any other way but as literal, physical things, so it didn't sink in to me what you were actually asking.

Don't call me a liar just because I misunderstood what you said! Shame on you for equating a mistake with lying! I'm done with you! I don't need to be judged like this. Go ahead and continue believing falsehood while foolishly spiritualizing many things for no reason if you insist.

 

[Douggg]

Isaiah 66:10-13

• "Rejoice ye with JERUSALEM, and be glad with her, all ye that Love her: Rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:
• That YE may Suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; and ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.
• For thus saith the Lord, behold, I will extend PEACE to her like a River, and the Glory of the gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall Ye Suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dangled upon her knees.
• As one whom His mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem."

That passage in Isaiah 66:10-13, the woman is allegorical, I agree.

But the women in Matthew 24:19, pregnant and/or with young children, is literal as it will be more difficult for them to flee to the safety of the mountains (Matthew 24:16).

Matthew 24:15 and forward are time of the end, end times, as Jesus referred to what Daniel spoke about the abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:11-12, sealed from fulfillment until the time of the end, Daniel 12:9.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

That passage in Isaiah 66:10-13, the woman is allegorical, I agree.

But the women in Matthew 24:19, pregnant and/or with young children, is literal as it will be more difficult for them to flee to the safety of the mountains (Matthew 24:16).

Matthew 24:15 and forward are time of the end, end times, as Jesus referred to what Daniel spoke about the abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:11-12, sealed from fulfillment until the time of the end, Daniel 12:9.

Notice that I asked him how he explains why it would be difficult for pregnant women and nursing mothers to flee to the mountains and he only addressed his spiritual understanding of the nursing mothers while saying nothing about why it would be difficult for pregnant women to flee. And he said nothing about why anyone should pray that their flight would not be in the winter or on the Sabbath. It's clearly referring to literal, physical fleeing, but this guy wants to spiritualize everything he possibly can. Which is kind of the opposite of what you do.

 

[TribulationSigns]

That passage in Isaiah 66:10-13, the woman is allegorical, I agree.

Good for you.

But the women in Matthew 24:19, pregnant and/or with young children, is literal as it will be more difficult for them to flee to the safety of the mountains (Matthew 24:16).

No, according to God's Word, He defines it through the entirety of His teachings. God was not referring to literal stones of a building, a woman with children, housetops, a field, clothes, mountains, or armies.

Matthew 24:15 and forward are time of the end, end times, as Jesus referred to what Daniel spoke about the abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:11-12, sealed from fulfillment until the time of the end, Daniel 12:9.

The entire Olivet Discourse focuses on the fall of the New Testament congregation, where the abomination of desolation stands. It has nothing to do with a physical temple in a physical city, nor with actual women, children, armies, or mountains. Such a perspective is rooted in a carnal mindset rather than a spiritual understanding. Similar to the disciples, who initially thought Christ was referring to the destruction of the Jewish temple in the early verses of the Olivet Discourse before they were enlightened by the Holy Spirit. You can't cherry-pick some verses out of context in the middle of a whole chapter, so you can apply it to the Jewish temple in 70AD, and the rest to the church. Total absurd.

Selah.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Notice that I asked him how he explains why it would be difficult for pregnant women and nursing mothers to flee to the mountains and he only addressed his spiritual understanding of the nursing mothers while saying nothing about why it would be difficult for pregnant women to flee.

Sigh! I just explained it to you... for a thousandth of times. Likewise, is it hard for you to understand why Christ warned us to pray that we flee when it will NOT be in winter or on the Sabbath. Do you even know what winter is? It's a time when the harvest (time of salvation through sealing of Elect) has passed. And the Sabbath? That's a time when people no longer work in the kingdom of God. Seriously, think harder and pray for Christ's wisdom. I did not make it up. God told us. For example:

Like the Sabbath in Matthew 24, it also symbolizes a time when salvation has ended on earth and there can be no more work in the field. There is no more fruits of the field to harvest. It is the time when no man can work to bring an increase.

Song of Solomon 2:11

• "For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;"

Here God is illustrating that the rain of the winter storms is past. The time of privation and hardship is gone, and with summer comes flowers and new life. But winter preceding it is illustrated as tempest, storm, trouble, a time when life is dorment. That's why I believe Matthew 24 warns, "pray our flight be not in winter."

Jeremiah 8:20

• "The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved."

This is what is being talked about. A period when time has run out for man to be delivered or saved. Pray that man's flight from Judea is not at a time when salvation has ended and no man can work. Because if we are not saved then (Reelation 7:3), we will be under judgement and wrath of God. Selah!

Look...both you and @Douggg...you've got yourself into another blatant contradiction. Do as you suggested we do. Check the Parallel passages.

Mark 13:18-18

• "But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
• And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter.
• For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be."

So we have undeniable proof that the time of the Sabbath flight, the time of the Winter, the time of the women with child, is "IN THOSE DAYS," of the [thlipsis] (translated affliction here), which you clearly admitted in Matthew 24 was at the second advent. You see, as my grandmother often said, "your arms are to short to box with God." You come up with contradiction after contradiction for one reason. What you are saying is not true, period.

The verse 5-9 all speak of the same event. Matthew 24:9 even confirms this unequivocally by saying "THEN" [tote] or "at that time" they shall deliver you up to be in [thlipsis] or affliction, and shall kill you, and ye shall be hated of all nations for Christ's name's sake. Perhaps you should stop and do some serious study and think before you write, because your posts are becoming more irrational the more scripture is quoted. If Matthew 24:9 refers to the Church and the end time period, then the verses leading up to verse 9 also refer to that period. But to arbitrarily bifurcate these scriptures into separate eras without any Biblical warrant whatsoever cannot be justified!. Not considering what is plainly written there in Matthew.

Matthew 24:5

• "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."

This obviously was not about 70AD. There was no rise of false prophets and christs before that, since Satan just cast into bottomless pit at the Cross so Christ could BUILD THE CHURCH! The Great Commssion barely started! The false Christs' and the deception in the Church is concurrent with the Apostles and all believers in the NT being hated, and many being deceived, and they being afflicted for Christ's sake. Christ is talking to the Church here, not the unbelieving Jews of Israel! Verses 5-9 are all one period. To say less is ridiculous. So where are the verses that mention the tribulation of the Jews in AD 70 anyway?!

And he said nothing about why anyone should pray that their flight would not be in the winter or on the Sabbath.

Oh please! Again, you have a short memory. I have explained this many times in the past on other threads. You just deny it or receive it so you can hold on to a flawed carnal interpretation based on a few passages out of context.

It's clearly referring to literal, physical fleeing

With the Lord as my witness, the answer is NOPE!

, but this guy wants to spiritualize everything he possibly can.

I did not spiritualize everything! I testified how God spiritualizes His Word by comparing Scripture with Scripture.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I did not spiritualize everything! I testified how God spiritualizes His Word by comparing Scripture with Scripture.

Your lack of reading comprehension skills shines through yet again. I said you spiritualize everything you possibly can, not literally everything. Even you can occasionally discern when things should be taken in a literal, physical sense and can't possibly be understood in a spiritual sense instead.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Your lack of reading comprehension skills shines through yet again. I said you spiritualize everything you possibly can, not literally everything. Even you can occasionally discern when things should be taken in a literal, physical sense and can't possibly be understood in a spiritual sense instead!

Haha, I see you completely overlooked my entire post and only took issue with the last sentence regarding "spiritualize." Is that the best you got?? You weren't listening or accepting the truth in Mark 13 that counters your position. Well, that's unfortunate for you. Go ahead and play in the sandbox of the Middle East, building and destroying Jerusalem alongside Premillennialists, Preterists, and some Amillennialists, believing God has prophesied the Olivet Discourse about 70AD literally.