The Coming Rapture

[Spiritual Israelite]

Wow
I don't see how anyone can take you seriously.
Just pathetic

Great response. Just as productive as the rest of your useless responses.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yep
Blew his mind.
All he could do was personal attack.

Humorous actually.

So, you don't think you have to explain how the elect will be gathered from up in the earth's atmosphere rather than from the surface of the earth? You can just make a ridiculous claim like that without any explanation for what it means? Are you afraid to show that that means?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No, that teaches one body while scripture says there are two. Not one verse teaches the saved will return to their old bodies. Paul is clear a new body exists right now in heaven.

It says the dead in Christ will be resurrected and changed. What exactly will be resurrected and changed if not their old bodies? No, Paul does NOT clearly indicate that there is a new body right now in heaven. That's nonsense. No one is going to heaven when Jesus returns. We're meeting Him in the air.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Totally incorrect. Acts 1 is talking about when Jesus sets His feet on the mount of Olives. That is not the rapture.

How are you coming to this conclusion exactly?

 

[rebuilder 454]

How are you coming to this conclusion exactly?

I think like manner is the rapture. Not the second coming

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I think like manner is the rapture. Not the second coming

I agree that it's the rapture, but the rapture happens at the second coming. They are not two different events.

We all agree that the following passage is about the rapture. It specifically mentions it as being related directly to the second coming.

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.