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You have the bible, If to you, what is alive,His word which is Spirit is no less than that of the pages of a book, than that is your choosing to reduce God to wood. You know what Idols are made of.
It grieves any believer to hear some one denigrating God's word.

Your idol is your imagination and delusions which you exalt above Gods clear revelation and history. God could have given us His views and opinions but this would not work. It needed to be a perfect gift expressed in a human flawed way, so both grace, love and law could be seen side by side.

This is it's authority and strength, vast and yet specific, alive and yet accessible. God bless you

Thank you for also highlighting the importance of scripture in our life in Him. Hallelujah for the struggles of Paul and David, it brings hope and blessing to all. His words are life to our souls, Amen
 
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It grieves any believer to hear some one denigrating God's word.
Yes this forum is filled with people doing just that, taking that what is spirit and making it less than wood. Making the creator of all things less than mens words written in a book, taking that what is life and making it dead, as Jesus put it in your bible,

Joh_5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

For to do that, you would have to give up your idol.
 

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It grieves any believer to hear some one denigrating God's word.

Your idol is your imagination and delusions which you exalt above Gods clear revelation and history. God could have given us His views and opinions but this would not work. It needed to be a perfect gift expressed in a human flawed way, so both grace, love and law could be seen side by side.

This is it's authority and strength, vast and yet specific, alive and yet accessible. God bless you

Thank you for also highlighting the importance of scripture in our life in Him. Hallelujah for the struggles of Paul and David, it brings hope and blessing to all. His words are life to our souls, Amen
This is it's authority and strength, vast and yet specific, alive and yet accessible. God bless you

Thank you for also highlighting the importance of scripture in our life in Him. Hallelujah for the struggles of Paul and David, it brings hope and blessing to all. His words are life to our souls, Amen

Can you imagine me giving up Christ , or God or the Holy Spirit for a book, oh the devil would be delighted. Can you imagine replacing your wife with a paperback, how do you think she might feel.
 

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Can you imagine me giving up Christ , or God or the Holy Spirit for a book, oh the devil would be delighted. Can you imagine replacing your wife with a paperback, how do you think she might feel.

Is it your revelation that is telling you to ignore scripture? Then your revelation is not of God.
The Jonestown massacre started with a pastor Jones claimed himself to be God, and the skygod to be imaginary. He spoke in a very persuasive way and hundreds died. Funnily he lied so continuously it appears his intention was to mix marxism with religion and create a transformative new faith with himself at the centre.

"By the early 1970s, Jones began deriding Christianity as "fly away religion," rejecting the Bible as being a tool to oppress women and non-whites, and denouncing a "Sky God" who was no God at all.[16] He wrote a booklet titled "The Letter Killeth," criticizing the King James Bible.[44] Jones also began preaching that he was the reincarnation of Gandhi, Father Divine, Jesus, Gautama Buddha, and Vladimir Lenin. "
Jim Jones - Wikipedia

There is a reason we listen to scripture and its foundations, so false teachers, liars, charlatans do not take us captive with their dreams of other worlds and do not stay true to Christ and the cross. God bless you

God describes this very process of false prophets

1 The word of the LORD came to me:
2 "Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who are now prophesying. Say to those who prophesy out of their own imagination: 'Hear the word of the LORD!
3 This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing!
4 Your prophets, O Israel, are like jackals among ruins.
5 You have not gone up to the breaks in the wall to repair it for the house of Israel so that it will stand firm in the battle on the day of the LORD.
6 Their visions are false and their divinations a lie. They say, "The LORD declares," when the LORD has not sent them; yet they expect their words to be fulfilled.
7 Have you not seen false visions and uttered lying divinations when you say, "The LORD declares," though I have not spoken?
8 "'Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because of your false words and lying visions, I am against you, declares the Sovereign LORD.
9 My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of the house of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD.
Ezek 13:1-9

Jim Jones comment which is identical to the one being spoken here

He had slammed the Bible on the table yelling "I've got to destroy this paper idol!"
 
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God describes this very process of false prophets
Well leave you to your idol. Ill just enjoy the risen Living Jesus, and God. Go worship your Idol see if it speaks to you.

Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
Joh 5:41 I receive not honour from men.

How can they give you the honour Jesus when they made the bible greater than you.

Mar_7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

Do it your way,
 

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Well leave you to your idol. Ill just enjoy the risen Living Jesus, and God. Go worship your Idol see if it speaks to you.

Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
Joh 5:41 I receive not honour from men.

How can they give you the honour Jesus when they made the bible greater than you.

Mar_7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

Do it your way,

I wish I could understand your logic, but then I would have to experience the visions etc you have, which obviously I cannot.
And this is always the problem with a faith based on personal ecstatic experience. Each individual has their own, it cannot be shared. So if the Lord gave me an experience, I would forever be comparing my experience to others.

I could not even say we went to the same place or saw the same things. One thing you take for granted when going to see the grand canyon, you can stand there with someone else and point to what is before you, take pictures etc.

So with the best will in the world unless the experience comes back with something to share, it will always be just individual.
Ironically I cannot even say this is of God or not, except throwing out scripture 100% decries it as not of God.

God bless you
 
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