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amigo de christo

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Many folks argue over things they dont fully know but let us rather take heed to what JESUS said to his own
desciples when they asked him a certain question .
LORD will you at this Time RESTORE the KINGDOM back to ISRAEL .
And JESUS said its not FOR YOU to KNOW the times nor the seasons the Father has placed in his own power .
PREACH THE GOSPEL . My advice is we better start focusing on THAT and on all sound doctrine by which
the church can grow . WHEN the TIME COMES , THEN WE SHALL KNOW even as we are known .
TILL THEN , TILL JESUS COMES , my advice is focus on biblical truth , that JESUS and all holy doctrine
by which the church shall grow .
 

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And, thanks for your kind and encouraging words of great discussion.
My pleasure.
I have a lot of respect, and appreciation, for anyone that has done their homework.
Oftentimes that is MORE important to me than their conclusions.
(I know... I know... "Danger, Will Robinson!")

If I think someone needs to give something more consideration, I will challenge their thinking.
In that situation my favorite reply is is: "What do you make of this?" Followed by a scripture to consider.
Less concerned about convincing than looking at every facet. See Luke 10:26

Anyway, great to have some back and forth with you, brother.
I hope not to infuriate you later. It's my spiritual gift. - LOL
 
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Many folks argue over things they dont fully know but let us rather take heed to what JESUS said to his own
desciples when they asked him a certain question .
LORD will you at this Time RESTORE the KINGDOM back to ISRAEL .
And JESUS said its not FOR YOU to KNOW the times nor the seasons the Father has placed in his own power .
PREACH THE GOSPEL . My advice is we better start focusing on THAT and on all sound doctrine by which
the church can grow . WHEN the TIME COMES , THEN WE SHALL KNOW even as we are known .
TILL THEN , TILL JESUS COMES , my advice is focus on biblical truth , that JESUS and all holy doctrine
by which the church shall grow .
I'd say, don't toss out the WHAT simply because we don't know WHEN.
 
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my favorite reply is is: "What do you make of this?" Followed by a scripture to consider.
Less concerned about convincing than looking at every facet.
I'd say, don't toss out the WHAT simply because we don't know WHEN.
And, in my case, I don't want to Overlook the who, how, where, and WHY! Amen?
 

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Wouldn't that make him a cosmic tyrant?
Jesus told us that the enemy has come to kill and to steal and to DESTROY.
But he came to bring life.

Colossians 1:19-20
For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Revelation 19:13-15KJV
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
 
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I'd say, don't toss out the WHAT simply because we don't know WHEN.
I would say what JESUS DID . ITS NOT FOR YOU to KNOW
Focus on teaching ALL HIS teachings , focus on sound doctrine . Souls are perishing daily
and churches are falling faster than ever . WE have our own battle which is to contend for the true faith ,
WHILE THERE still be time to do so .
 
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Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Revelation 19:13-15KJV
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Oh, I see. Bible versus Bible. Is that the game we are playing here? (who wins?)

I see your two and raise you three. (you in?) - LOL

Acts 3:21 NIV
Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 11:32
For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

Titus 2:11 ESV
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

1 Timothy 4:10
That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.
 

St. SteVen

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ha-ha 'LOST in space' :Broadly:

Can't wait for my Departure, WHEN I will be "Be FOUND In space' With JESUS!!! :innocent:
I had a dream the other night that I went to heaven. (that's how I know it was a dream) - LOL
Anyway, they put me to work right away. I was at a BBQ grill flipping burgers. (say what?)
To my amazement Jesus walked up to my grill with his plate. I asked nervously, "How do you like it?"
He looked at me with a slightly puzzled look and replied, "Well done, my good and faithful servant."

Hope that's not irreverent.
 
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I had a dream the other night that I went to heaven. (that's how I know it was a dream) - LOL
Anyway, they put me to work right away. I was at a BBQ grill flipping burgers. (say what?)
To my amazement Jesus walked up to my grill with his plate. I asked nervously, "How do you like it?"
He looked at me with a slightly puzzled look and replied, "Well done, my good and faithful servant."

Hope that's not irreverent.

That's grrrrrreat!
 
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I would say what JESUS DID . ITS NOT FOR YOU to KNOW
Focus on teaching ALL HIS teachings , focus on sound doctrine . Souls are perishing daily
and churches are falling faster than ever . WE have our own battle which is to contend for the true faith ,
WHILE THERE still be time to do so .
Contend for "the true faith"?
How are such things measured?
There is no consensus.

Anyway, I don't believe in a forever burning hell. Everyone is already saved. IMHO
That doesn't mean a direct flight to heaven. Religious people will need some fine-tuning.

Matthew 21:31 NIV
... Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.
 

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Oh, I see. Bible versus Bible. Is that the game we are playing here? (who wins?)

I see your two and raise you three. (you in?) - LOL

Acts 3:21 NIV
Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 11:32
For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

Titus 2:11 ESV
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

1 Timothy 4:10
That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.
1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance
on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV

3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
 
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1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
Looks like I won. (assuming I understand the rules of this game)
You needed at least five. And you posted one that supports my view instead.

Your deal. 1/0 - LOL
 

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1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance
on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV

3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
I see your seven and raise you two. Fold, or play?

Acts 3:21 NIV
Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 11:32
For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

Titus 2:11 ESV
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

1 Timothy 4:10
That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.

1 John 4:14 NIV
And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

Romans 5:15-16
But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! 16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.

Romans 5:18-19 NIV
Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people,
so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people.
19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners,
so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.