Veganism

[BarneyFife]

I'm not sure if it is a response to the OP, but I'm asking why restoration of the original diet (if Marriage is restored to the original, and the animals, themselves, will be restored to their original diet--if Messiah is a restorer of things to their original states) is optional.

It's really only optional relative to a believer's viewpoint and experience.

The main principles involved are the ethical treatment of animals, glorifying God in our bodies, and the duty to God as stewards of the human machinery—which is tied to the sanctity and preservation of human life.

Believers from different backgrounds are bound to be all over the map on this.

If you're familiar with Nat Geo's Dan Beuttner and the Blue Zones, you'll know that one of them are the Seventh-day Adventists that live in Loma Linda, California who are, actually the only BZ group that isn't losing their longevity edge in the wake of the healthcare failings of the last 10 years or so. They claim that their total lifestyle, including little or no animal products in their diet, is what keeps them alive and active up to a hundred years or more, and it's hard to refute their claims.

Mainstream science is getting on board with this, and it won't be long until all the major health authorities are compelled to change their official position to reflect the overwhelming evidence. Some already have. I won't name them here as it just seems to provide a place to slap a bullseye for information assasins.

I just heard today that the US government is considering changing the labeling of foods to classify items as "healthy" relative to their reduction of sodium, sugar, and saturated fat.

 

[BarneyFife]

Where did the Lord say eating meat was not healthy?

If that's all one is doing like those doing the carnivore diet, then that would be excessive and not healthy

On the other hand, those not eating any meat at all that is excessive as well and not healthy.

In fact, vegans have to take supplements due to not eating meat in order to not be deficient in certain nourishment that comes from eating meat.

Tell that to the hundreds of millions of poor people of the world who have little or no access to animal food products nor supplemental Vitamin E and B12. They get it naturally—which largely Caucasian Americans can do more easily since they can get E more efficiently from sunlight and can afford a better quality of food such as legumes that feed the microbiome that produces B12 in the gut.

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[GracePeace]

Tell that to the hundreds of millions of poor people of the world who have little or no access to animal food products nor supplemental Vitamin E and B12. They get it naturally—which largely Caucasian Americans can do more easily since they can get E more efficiently from sunlight and can afford a better quality of food such as legumes that feed the microbiome that produces B12 in the gut.

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Dr. Gabriel Cousens says the B12 created in the gut does you no good unless you eat your poop (like rodents, which do not suffer from a B12 deficiency), and, so, it behooves us to find a more palatable source. lol

 

[BarneyFife]

As in those that don't eat healthy... the Lord sends to hell? View attachment 59695

Some folks have larger, more nuanced concerns that can't be reduced to an all-or-nothing logical fallacy.

Love sometimes compels people to do/be the best they can for Jesus rather than keep their eyes open for loopholes to justify their carnal desires.

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[GracePeace]

It's really only optional relative to a believer's viewpoint and experience.

The main principles involved are the ethical treatment of animals, glorifying God in our bodies, and the duty to God as stewards of the human machinery—which is tied to the sanctity and preservation of human life.

Believers from different backgrounds are bound to be all over the map on this.

If you're familiar with Nat Geo's Dan Beuttner and the Blue Zones, you'll know that one of them are the Seventh-day Adventists that live in Loma Linda, California who are, actually the only BZ group that isn't losing their longevity edge in the wake of the healthcare failings of the last 10 years or so. They claim that their total lifestyle, including little or no animal products in their diet, is what keeps them alive and active up to a hundred years or more, and it's hard to refute their claims.

Mainstream science is getting on board with this, and it won't be long until all the major health authorities are compelled to change their official position to reflect the overwhelming evidence. Some already have. I won't name them here as it just seems to provide a place to slap a bullseye for information assasins.

I just heard today that the US government is considering changing the labeling of foods to classify items as "healthy" relative to their reduction of sodium, sugar, and saturated fat.

Yup, SDAs represent a Blue Zone.
Nutritionfacts.org discusses the verified benefits of vegetarianism, but guys like Dr. Cousens go all the way with raw veganism.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Forbidding the eating of meat is doctrines of demons... the tares enjoy this sort of thing.

1 Timothy 4:1-5
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

 

[BarneyFife]

Forbidding the eating of meat is doctrines of demons... the tares enjoy this sort of thing.

No one is forbidding anyone to do anything. There's nothing for demons or tares to enjoy here.

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