Question For JW's

[Wrangler]

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NRSVACE
Of David. A Psalm. The Lord says to my lord, ‘Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.’
NRSVCE
Of David. A Psalm. The Lord says to my lord, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.”
NRSVUE
Of David. A Psalm. The Lord says to my lord, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.”
OJB
(Of Dovid. Mizmor). Hashem said unto Adoni [i.e., Moshiach Adoneinu; Malachi 3:1], Sit thou at My right hand, until I make thine enemies a footstool for thy feet.
RSV
A Psalm of David. The Lord says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool.”
RSVCE
A Psalm of David. The Lord says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool.”
TLV
A psalm of David. Adonai declares to my Lord: “Sit at My right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”
VOICE
A song of David. The Eternal said to my lord, “Sit here at My right hand, in the place of honor and power, And I will gather your enemies together, lead them in on hands and knees; you will rest your feet on their backs.”
WEB
A Psalm by David. Yahweh says to my Lord, “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool for your feet.”
WYC
The psalm of David. The Lord said to my Lord; Sit thou on my right side. Till I put thine enemies a stool of thy feet. (The song of David. The Lord said to my lord, Sit thou at my right hand; until I make thy enemies into thy footstool.)
YLT
A Psalm of David. The affirmation of Jehovah to my Lord: `Sit at My right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.'

 

[Keiw]

Everything you said Jack is right on.

Not if you know what Jesus taught. Those who dont would agree with Jack.

 

[Keiw]

No Scripture? Of course not. Even the NWT says you're wrong!

The nwt teaches man became a living soul, not has a living soul just like Barney said.

 

[Keiw]

Amen! Father, Son and Holy Spirit! God the Creator.

Says Kingdom Hall?

Kingdom Hall doctrine is not "undeniable facts". No Scripture? No surprise.

That is Israelite( Jewish) facts of true God worship history. I never learned that in a kingdom hall. But they would teach it because its undeniable fact. Every trinity scholar on earth knows its fact.
The new catholic encyclopedia-1967-Vol XIV-Page 299--- The formulation, one God in three persons was not established, certainly not assimilated into christian life and its profession of faith prior until the end of the 4th century. Among the apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.( of God being a trinity)--see my post is undeniable fact.
Most assuredly why Jesus teaches-John 17:1-6,26-- Verse 3- This means eternal life, their knowing you(Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus--Verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) Verse 26= YHWH(Jehovah)-- 2 major truths there--The Father is the only true God and he did not come to earth he sent another, named Jesus as a mortal.
I haven't met a trinitarian yet that will believe Jesus over errors. That is sad.

 

[Jack]

You mean after all the complaints about the NWT translation, you don't have a preferred translation? How sad for you.

KJ21
The Lord said unto my Lord, “Sit Thou at My right hand, until I make Thine enemies Thy footstool.”
ASV
A Psalm of David. Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
AMP
A Psalm of David. The Lord (Father) says to my Lord (the Messiah, His Son), “Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet [subjugating them into complete submission].”
AMPC
The Lord (God) says to my Lord (the Messiah), Sit at My right hand, until I make Your adversaries Your footstool.
BRG
A Psalm of David. The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
CSB
A psalm of David. This is the declaration of the Lord to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.”
CEB
What the Lord says to my master: “Sit right beside me until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet!”
CJB
A psalm of David: Adonai says to my Lord, “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.”
CEV
(A psalm by David.) The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at my right side, until I make your enemies into a footstool for you.”
DARBY
Psalm of David. Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I put thine enemies [as] footstool of thy feet.
DRA
I will praise thee, O Lord, with my whole heart; in the council of the just: and in the congregation.
ERV
A praise song of David. The Lord said to my lord, “Sit at my right side, while I put your enemies under your control.”
EHV
The decree of the Lord to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool under your feet.”
ESV
A Psalm of David. The Lord says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.”
ESVUK
A Psalm of David. The Lord says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.”
EXB
A psalm of David. ·The Lord said [L Utterance/Oracle of the Lord] to my Lord, “Sit at my right ·side [L hand] until I put your enemies under your ·control [L feet; Matt. 22:44; 26:64; Mark 12:36; 16:19; Luke 20:42–44; 22:59; Acts 2:34–35; Rom. 8:34; 1 Cor. 15:25; Eph. 1:20; Col. 3:1; Heb. 1:3, 13; 8:1; 10:12–13; 12:2].”

Why would I complain about the NWT that says JW's are wrong?

 

[Jack]

The nwt teaches man became a living soul, not has a living soul just like Barney said.

NWT also says Jesus is God and Hell fire is "forever and ever".

 

[Jack]

That is Israelite( Jewish) facts of true God worship history. I never learned that in a kingdom hall. But they would teach it because its undeniable fact. Every trinity scholar on earth knows its fact.
The new catholic encyclopedia-1967-Vol XIV-Page 299--- The formulation, one God in three persons was not established, certainly not assimilated into christian life and its profession of faith prior until the end of the 4th century. Among the apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.( of God being a trinity)--see my post is undeniable fact.
Most assuredly why Jesus teaches-John 17:1-6,26-- Verse 3- This means eternal life, their knowing you(Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus--Verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) Verse 26= YHWH(Jehovah)-- 2 major truths there--The Father is the only true God and he did not come to earth he sent another, named Jesus as a mortal.
I haven't met a trinitarian yet that will believe Jesus over errors. That is sad.

And I haven't met a JW yet who doesn't twist the Hell out of our Bible.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

No Scripture? Of course not. Even the NWT says you're wrong!

The New World translation says at Genesis 2:7, "And Jehovah God went on to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living person."
So for anyone to say that God didn't form a flesh and blood human body from the dust of the ground, that would be an untruth and I'm not going to listen to such a person. Also if anyone says that God didn't blow the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body, that also would be an untruth and I'm not going to listen to that person either. The scriptures show us that God did form, from the dust of the ground, a flesh and blood human body and the scriptures also show us, that God did blow the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body. So it was that flesh and blood human body that God blew the breath of life(spirit) into, that became a living soul or living person. I'm not going to ignore any of this just because so many others choose to.

 

[Jack]

The New World translation says at Genesis 2:7, "And Jehovah God went on to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living person."
So for anyone to say that God didn't form a flesh and blood human body from the dust of the ground, that would be an untruth and I'm not going to listen to such a person. Also if anyone says that God didn't blow the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body, that also would be an untruth and I'm not going to listen to that person either. The scriptures show us that God did form, from the dust of the ground, a flesh and blood human body and the scriptures also show us, that God did blow the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body. So it was that flesh and blood human body that God blew the breath of life(spirit) into, that became a living soul or living person. I'm not going to ignore any of this just because so many others choose to.

Have you ever read the NWT? It clearly says JW's are WRONG!

 

[theefaith]

Can you please explain this Barean thing for me?

 

[DavidB]

How so?

I'm just reading the passage. That's what it says.

I mean, just anyone can fling out that accusation.

Much love!

Only the indoctrinated can claim “I am” means eternal.

 

[marks]

Only the indoctrinated can claim “I am” means eternal.

OK. If you say so.

Of course, I haven't said that. Would you like to reply to what I did say? Or just leave it at the ad hominem?

Much love!

 

[theefaith]

Only the indoctrinated can claim “I am” means eternal.

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

this means eternal!

 

[Webers_Home]

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The nwt teaches man became a living soul, not has a living soul just like Barney said.

According to Lev 26:11, Lev 26:30, Judg 10:16, Isa 42:1, Jer 32:41, and
Zech 11:8, God has a soul. Is it a living soul or a dead soul?
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[Keiw]

NWT also says Jesus is God and Hell fire is "forever and ever".

The nwt calls Jesus-a god small g--that is not calling one The God, small g means-has godlike qualities. Satan is called god small g at 2 Cor 4:4--he is not being called The God. Jesus was clear--Those who entered the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction. Gods love, mercy and justice make a literal eternal suffering an impossible truth. A false truth taught by blind guides, showing God as a sadist. It was symbolic. A single teaching about it proves that--A place where the worm( maggot) dieth not---No worm or maggot could survive an hour in a literal hot firey place.

 

[Keiw]

And I haven't met a JW yet who doesn't twist the Hell out of our Bible.

Catholicism translating is in your bible. Their own translating exposes them as false religion, its why the protestants ran to start with. Jesus was never with that religion, his adversary is. And every branch using her twisted translating to fit false council teachings. The NWT fixed the errors, not only that. The only translators on earth who had the love and respect for God and his will to put his name back where he willed it to be, nearly 7000 places. Condemned by the blind guides using altered translations done by satans will to mislead. It was by satans will Gods name was removed to mislead, and it does.

 

[Keiw]

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According to Lev 26:11, Lev 26:30, Judg 10:16, Isa 42:1, Jer 32:41, and
Zech 11:8, God has a soul. Is it a living soul or a dead soul?
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The Hebrew word for soul translates-breath.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Have you ever read the NWT? It clearly says JW's are WRONG!

The very fact you made this reply shows that you will outright lie about the truth that's in the scriptures and you will lie about people.

 

[Keiw]

Have you ever read the NWT? It clearly says JW's are WRONG!

I have studied religions, the history of true God worship history, And the teachings of Jesus since 1961--Jesus teachings in every translation on earth prove the JW,s are correct. As does true God worship history. You should study those teachings, you are being mislead.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Webers_Home said,


According to Lev 26:11, Lev 26:30, Judg 10:16, Isa 42:1, Jer 32:41, and
Zech 11:8, God has a soul. Is it a living soul or a dead soul?
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The words used in the scriptures for soul are, the Hebrew word nephesh, and the Greek word psykhe. When examining the way these Hebrew and Greek words are used in the scriptures, it becomes clear that they basically refer to (1) persons, (2) animals, or (3) the life that a person or an animal has. (Genesis 1:20; 2:7; Numbers 31:28; 1 Peter 3:20).

When it comes to the scriptures you mentioned above referring to God saying, "my soul", this is the scriptures using the expression "my soul" like when the scriptures uses such expressions that the True God has, eyes, hands, etc. Just because the True God uses such expresses as having eyes and hands doesn't mean God has eyes and hands like man has eyes and hands. God is a spirit, and no human has ever seen God. So just as the True God relates himself to humans when using such expressions as having eyes, and hands, When God uses such a expression as, "my soul" it just means, "myself" or "my person" because God is a person and as the scriptures show us, one of the meanings of the word soul is person.