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“Seventy weeks are determined = It is impossible for this to be in the Future and the Gospel confirms this.For your people and for your holy city, = Gospel = HE came to His own = the Jewish people and Jerusalem where HE died & Rose
KJV..."Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city," We know that we are speaking of Israel and the Holy City is Jerusalem. The idiom of a "week" of years was used during this time because God required the land "sabbath for the Land" to be fallow (not sown) one year out of every 7 years. Failure to comply with these commandments resulted in 70 years of servitude to Babylon. This servitude began in 606 BC. Daniel was already aware the 70 years of servitude was almost up. So this prophecy of 490 years was beyond this date:

To finish the transgression, = Gospel = John 19:28-30
"to finish the transgression," (violations of Law) of the Jewish people, Has this happen Yet! No for it is still future. Simply look at Israel today.

To make an end of sins, = Gospel = John 3:10-17 = Luke 22:20 = Hebrews 9:28 , 2 Corinthians 5:21
"and to make an end of sins," Has this happened YET....No for it is still future! Simply look at Israel

today.

"and to make reconciliation for iniquity," Has this happened Yet! Yes, with Jesus Christ on the Cross.




To bring in everlasting righteousness, = Gospel = Matt 6:33 , Rom 10:6 , 2 Peter 1:1 , Rom 5:21 , 2 Cor 5:21 and More
"and to bring in everlasting righteousness," Has this happened yet! No, for it is still future




To seal up vision and prophecy, = Book of Revelation COMPLETES ALL Vision & Prophecy
"and to seal up the vision and prophecy," Has this happened yet! Yes, This book was sealed up for many years and it was and still is banned from reading by anyone practicing( Judaism unless one is a Rabbi.

"And to anoint the Most Holy. = fulfilled when CHRIST Ascended = Hebrews 9:11-15
"and to anoint the most Holy." What were they going to anoint Him as...Messiah and King, His ascension put Him at the right hand of GOD but did not anoint Him yet.




So we see that this prophecy is for Israel only. While Jesus has paid the price for the transgressions/sin Neither of these two has stopped as it reads. As we will see in the next verse, the weeks of years are broken down for us to consider. one week (7 weeks + 60 weeks + 2 weeks of years)

“Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command
To restore and build Jerusalem
Until Messiah the Prince,
There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; = 69 weeks
The street shall be built again, and the wall,
Even in troublesome times.
**The biggest problem with the prophecy above is when it happened and why an addendum stating “The street shall be built again and the wall….even in troublesome times.
This prophecy was fulfilled in March 14, 445 BC...If this is a sticking point we discuss this by itself. Yet, it did happen and to the exact day that Jesus rode through Jerusalem walls: April 6, 32 AD.

“And after the sixty-two weeks(plus 7) =After the 69th Week
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; = Mid 70th Week
** Lets examine the verse 26. “And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”
Yes, 69 weeks (173,880 days) was the time from His (Jesus) entrance into Jerusalem. Notice:”And after” the Messiah shall be cut off. Jesus came to Jerusalem on the 10th of Nisan and was crucified on the 14th of Nisan. This is the Passover Holiday. It had nothing to do with the 70th week.
Notice the next part of the verse which is very important. “and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Who are the People of the Prince???and what city are they going to destroy. Lets go back to Mat 24:2..”And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” What is this about the “stone” then in
Luke 19:43–44 “For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.”
what does this mean? Everything…….This prophecy removes the throught that Jesus had returned during 70 AD and the destruction of Jerusalem for the Prince was Titus Vaspasion.
What remains is the coming of the wicked one = Matthew ch24, 2 Thessalonians ch2, John 5:41-43
** Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (2 Thes 2:3)`
 

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Gen 10

Descendants of Noah​


21 Also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber [including the Hebrews], the older brother of Japheth, children were born.


25 Two sons were born to Eber; the name of one was Peleg (division), for [the inhabitants of] the earth were divided in his days;


No division in those days, just 1 family.
Abraham was a Gentile. A non-Jewish Noahide.
That's scripture. No divisions in God's word.
 

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It is IMPOSSIBLE for you toe SAVED or for a JEW to be SAVED apart from the fulfillment of Daniel 9:24
No it is not....Daniel's prophecy was for the Jews only...Jesus created His Church and those in it are saved this includes Jews who believe in Him. However, there are many Jews today that do not believe in Him still as Messiah. Daniel becomes a part of Revelation and both of these books have Hebrew overtures. We can also see in Daniel 3-4 that the book was written in aramaic (gentilian). From then on it is Hebrew.
Dispensationalism is a man-made, man-centered doctrine that seeks to BYPASS the New Covenant concerning the Jewish people.
No Coventology does that quite nicely and blames it on Dispensationalism which is Biblical. There are seven dispensations within the Bible that are distinct from one another. These are time periods where God/Jesus/Holy Spirit interreacted with the people of earth in different ways. This is another study we and get into if you wish.

Jerusalem and Israel would NOT exist if CHRIST did not fulfill Daniel 9:24 and this is also confirmed in the prophet Jeremiah and specifically the NEW COVENANT.
Dan 9:24 has not be fulfilled yet...Jesus did die for our inequities but that is it so far.
The "essence" of the New Covenant is in Ezekiel 36:25-27.. This covenant with Israel was also inherited by the Church (His Body, His Bride) uses this essence to justifiy and glorify it saints...So far, Saints have only been Justified and many sanctified but not glorified YET...The Rapture will do this for them.
Did you not read the CLEAR scriptures given to you!


Your statement here is antichrist and is violence against the Gospel, against the people of God and God's Will for you.

This is how EVIL and DANGEROUS the heresy of pre-trib rapture is as it has snowballed into many lies against the Gospel.

Every scripture in your post that you say: "Has not happened yet" is a complete LIE against the very words of God.

There is prophecy yet to be fulfilled = Matthew 23:39 , 2 Thess chapter 2 , and more

STOP your unbelief now by Returning to CHRIST - 2 Peter 1:1-4
To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue,
by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises,
that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature,
having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

For the (Jewish people) being ignorant of the righteousness of God and seeking to establish the own righteousness, they did not submit to the righteousness of God. - Romans 10:1-3

Your religion has dumbed you down to the same unbelief as Israel now suffers under and it is antichrist.
Your Words...."Your religion has dumbed you down to the same unbelief as Israel now suffers under and it is antichrist."

I see your words last evening meant nothing but garbage. I thought you came into the with an open mind....What I have told you is how the Bible Reads and I do not have to remove, add, change a single verse, word, period or Jott or tittle

I will no longer be a party to your rantings. Good Night.. and May God forgive you.
 
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Amen.
Yes, by his cross.
This would have been in the 70th week.
No, the 70th week did not happen and Jesus has not returned to earth or in the clouds YET.
The Anointed Messiah takes office after the 7 and 62 weeks.
Jesus entered Jerusalem on the very day that 69 weeks prophecy states, This is 173,880 days from March 14, 445 BC. He entered Jerusalem on April 6,445 BC

25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuance of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until [the coming of] the Messiah (the Anointed One), the Prince, there will be seven weeks [of years] and sixty-two weeks [of years]; it will be built again, with [a city] plaza and moat, even in times of trouble.
Only after this commandment by Artaxerxes Longimanus did Daniel's 69 weeks start.
This would have to be true of the other points as well...By his cross/blood.


24 “Seventy weeks [of years, or 490 years] have been decreed for your people and for your holy city (Jerusalem),

to finish the transgression,
to make an end of sins,
to make atonement (reconciliation) for wickedness,
to bring in everlasting righteousness (right-standing with God),
to seal up vision and prophecy and prophet, and
to anoint the Most Holy Place.
There is only one of these that is true and that is the atonement for inequity by Jesus....
Heb 9
11 But when Christ appeared as a High Priest of the good things to come [that is, true spiritual worship], He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not a part of this [material] creation. 12 He went once for all into the Holy Place [the Holy of Holies of heaven, into the presence of God], and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, having obtained and secured eternal redemption [that is, the salvation of all who personally believe in Him as Savior].
It is easy for those who have taught you this if all they have to say "we are in the Spiritual Kingdom" so sad. for we are still underr Satan's run...God is in control but at this time, Satan is still ruling.
 

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No, the 70th week did not happen and Jesus has not returned to earth or in the clouds YET.
70 weeks were decreed for that to happen in its entirety.
As Jesus received his anointing at his baptism. He was then recognized as Messiah. That revealing is after the 7 and 62 weeks. The cross bore all its fruit in the final week

It is easy for those who have taught you this if all they have to say "we are in the Spiritual Kingdom" so sad. for we are still underr Satan's run...God is in control but at this time, Satan is still ruling.
Nobody has taught me this. I turn to God and his word and pray for understanding.

Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

You tell me who is in charge

Romans 5:17
For if by the trespass of the one (Adam), death reigned through the one (Adam), much more surely will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in [eternal] life through the One, Jesus Christ.

Romans 5:21
so that, as sin reigned in death, so also grace would reign through righteousness which brings eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 

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70 weeks were decreed for that to happen in its entirety.
As Jesus received his anointing at his baptism. He was then recognized as Messiah. That revealing is after the 7 and 62 weeks. The cross bore all its fruit in the final week
Jesus was not anointed as Messiah or king...Why do you think they killed Him in the first place...They did not believe what He was telling them.
Nobody has taught me this. I turn to God and his word and pray for understanding.swing you into a 180 direction from what the Bible actually states and how it reads when your hermeneutics are Literal, Historical, Grammtical and Synthetical.
But you had to have someone, something, book, person, TV
Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

You tell me who is in charge

Romans 5:17
For if by the trespass of the one (Adam), death reigned through the one (Adam), much more surely will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in [eternal] life through the One, Jesus Christ.

Romans 5:21
so that, as sin reigned in death, so also grace would reign through righteousness which brings eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Who offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world when He was in the desert. Satan and somebody had to give them to Him....Which is why the Bible calls Him by many names but one stands aside: Prince of the Air....by the Word of GOD. God is in control of all things, to have it proceed according to His two plans. Yet, Satan is still in charge of this world. Where does all the evil come from.....Man yes, but Satan is there to help promote it.
 

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Jesus was not anointed as Messiah or king...
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“The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me (the Messiah),
Because He has anointed Me to preach the good news to the poor.
He has sent Me to announce release (pardon, forgiveness) to the captives,
And recovery of sight to the blind,
To set free those who are oppressed (downtrodden, bruised, crushed by tragedy),
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to proclaim the favorable year of the Lord [the day when salvation and the favor of God abound greatly].”

But you had to have someone, something, book, person, TV
I had everything I needed.
 

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No, the 70th week did not happen and Jesus has not returned to earth or in the clouds YET.
Daniel 9:24 declares "Seventy weeks are determined".

An unfulfilled 70th week is decapitated, orphaned, and undetermined.

It denies and violates Daniel's declaration.

It is a figment of the futurized fantasy and fallacy of modernist dispensational delusion.

It is nonexistent in historical true Christianity prior to the 19th century.

It merits naught but a return to the pit from which it originated.

Hell.
 
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Daniel 9:24 declares "Seventy weeks are determined".

An unfulfilled 70th week is decapitated, orphaned, and undetermined.

It denies and violates Daniel's declaration.

It is a figment of the futurized fantasy and fallacy of modernist dispensational delusion.

It is nonexistent in historical true Christianity prior to the 19th century.

It merits naught but a return to the pit from which it originated.

Hell.
The 70th week, the last seven years of the Prophecy in Daniel 9:25-27 remains unfulfilled.
No amount of flowery rhetoric can deny the truth of this;' it is proved by the Prophesies about that 7 year period, esp the second half of it; as Prophesied in Revelation, having never yet happened.

The main proof is that there is no definable fulfilment of a seven year, or a 3 1/2 year period, following the Crucifixion , for the things Jesus and the Prophets told us: must happen before Jesus Returns.

False teachings must be consigned to hell and preterisim is one of them.
 

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As Jesus received his anointing at his baptism. He was then recognized as Messiah. That revealing is after the 7 and 62 weeks. The cross bore all its fruit in the final week
In John 12, people thought that Jesus was the messiah because He had raised Lazarus from the dead, in Bethany. Read that chapter.

In John 12:12-15, Jesus was hailed as the King of Israel, by those who believed Him to be their messiah, as He entered Jerusalem riding a donkey, to fulfill a prophecy made in Zechariah 9:9.
 

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In John 12, people thought that Jesus was the messiah because He had raised Lazarus from the dead, in Bethany. Read that chapter.

In John 12:12-15, Jesus was hailed as the King of Israel, by those who believed Him to be their messiah, as He entered Jerusalem riding a donkey, to fulfill a prophecy made in Zechariah 9:9.
In John 1, we have the Lords chosen witness regarding the revealing of the Messiah......,
Who to believe as an authority on the matter....,


The Witness of John the Baptist​

6 There came a man commissioned and sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe [in Christ, the Light] through him. 8 John was not the Light, but came to testify about the Light.

9 There it was—the true Light [the genuine, perfect, steadfast Light] which, coming into the world, enlightens everyone. 10 He (Christ) was in the world, and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize Him. 11 He came to that which was His own [that which belonged to Him—His world, His creation, His possession], and those who were His own [people—the Jewish nation] did not receive and welcome Him. 12 But to as many as did receive and welcome Him, He gave the right [the authority, the privilege] to become children of God, that is, to those who believe in (adhere to, trust in, and rely on) His name— 13 who were born, not of blood [natural conception], nor of the will of the flesh [physical impulse], nor of the will of man [that of a natural father], but of God [that is, a divine and supernatural birth—they are born of God—spiritually transformed, renewed, sanctified].

The Word Made Flesh​

14 And the Word (Christ) became flesh, and lived among us; and we [actually] saw His glory, glory as belongs to the [One and] only begotten Son of the Father, [the Son who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, who is] full of grace and truth (absolutely free of deception). 15 John testified [repeatedly] about Him and has cried out [testifying officially for the record, with validity and relevance], “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has a higher rank than I and has priority over me, for He existed before me.’” 16 For out of His fullness [the superabundance of His grace and truth] we have all received grace upon grace [spiritual blessing upon spiritual blessing, favor upon favor, and gift heaped upon gift]. 17 For the Law was given through Moses, but grace [the unearned, undeserved favor of God] and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen God [His essence, His divine nature] at any time; the [One and] only begotten God [that is, the unique Son] who is in the intimate presence of the Father, He has explained Him [and interpreted and revealed the awesome wonder of the Father].

The Testimony of John​

19 This is the testimony of John [the Baptist] when the Jews sent priests and Levites to him from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20 And he confessed [truthfully] and did not deny [that he was only a man], but acknowledged, “I am not the Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed)!” 21 They asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” And he said, “I am not.” “Are you the [promised] Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22 Then they said to him, “Who are you? Tell us, so that we may give an answer to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?” 23 He said, “I am the voice of one shouting in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way of the Lord,’ as the prophet Isaiah said.”

24 Now they had been sent from the Pharisees. 25 They asked him, “Why then are you baptizing, if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” 26 John answered them, “I baptize [only]in water, but among you there stands One whom you do not recognize and of whom you know nothing. 27 It is He [the preeminent One] who comes after me, the strap of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie [even as His slave].” 28 These things occurred in Bethany across the Jordan [at the Jordan River crossing], where John was baptizing.

29 The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, “Look! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is He on behalf of whom I said, ‘After me comes a Man who has a higher rank than I and has priority over me, for He existed before me.’ 31 I did not recognize Him [as the Messiah]; but I came baptizing in water so that He would be [publicly] revealed to Israel.” 32 John gave [further] evidence [testifying officially for the record, with validity and relevance], saying, “I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him. 33 I did not recognize Him [as the Messiah], but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me, ‘He upon whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this One is He who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 I myself have [actually] seen [that happen], and my testimony is that this is the Son of God!”
 

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Asking a question instead of addressing what I said? Can you please address what it says in this passage?

Acts 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

The reason that Paul had Timothy circumcised was not because it was required, but it was so that Timothy could be more effective in his ministry to the Jews. Paul wrote this....

1 Corinthians 9:19 Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.

Notice Paul said that he was not under the law. Neither was Timothy or any other Jewish Christian because Christians are under grace instead of the law. They only "became like one under the law...so as to win those under the law".
Good point. That is a possible answer in our mutual search for truth. I certainly hope Timothy shared Paul's conviction.
 
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Just make one correction.
When the Apostle Paul says "time of the Gentiles" he is not speaking of Gentile christians but only of the Gentile kingdoms spoken of thru the Prophet Daniel that the LORD will destroy at the Brightness of His Second Coming.
Yes, exactly. This represents a defined unit of time during which Gentiles (unbelievers) can enter into God's favour—salvation.
 

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In John 1, we have the Lords chosen witness regarding the revealing of the Messiah......,
Who to believe as an authority on the matter....,


The Witness of John the Baptist​

6 There came a man commissioned and sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe [in Christ, the Light] through him. 8 John was not the Light, but came to testify about the Light.

9 There it was—the true Light [the genuine, perfect, steadfast Light] which, coming into the world, enlightens everyone. 10 He (Christ) was in the world, and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize Him. 11 He came to that which was His own [that which belonged to Him—His world, His creation, His possession], and those who were His own [people—the Jewish nation] did not receive and welcome Him. 12 But to as many as did receive and welcome Him, He gave the right [the authority, the privilege] to become children of God, that is, to those who believe in (adhere to, trust in, and rely on) His name— 13 who were born, not of blood [natural conception], nor of the will of the flesh [physical impulse], nor of the will of man [that of a natural father], but of God [that is, a divine and supernatural birth—they are born of God—spiritually transformed, renewed, sanctified].

The Word Made Flesh​

14 And the Word (Christ) became flesh, and lived among us; and we [actually] saw His glory, glory as belongs to the [One and] only begotten Son of the Father, [the Son who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, who is] full of grace and truth (absolutely free of deception). 15 John testified [repeatedly] about Him and has cried out [testifying officially for the record, with validity and relevance], “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has a higher rank than I and has priority over me, for He existed before me.’” 16 For out of His fullness [the superabundance of His grace and truth] we have all received grace upon grace [spiritual blessing upon spiritual blessing, favor upon favor, and gift heaped upon gift]. 17 For the Law was given through Moses, but grace [the unearned, undeserved favor of God] and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen God [His essence, His divine nature] at any time; the [One and] only begotten God [that is, the unique Son] who is in the intimate presence of the Father, He has explained Him [and interpreted and revealed the awesome wonder of the Father].

The Testimony of John​

19 This is the testimony of John [the Baptist] when the Jews sent priests and Levites to him from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20 And he confessed [truthfully] and did not deny [that he was only a man], but acknowledged, “I am not the Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed)!” 21 They asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” And he said, “I am not.” “Are you the [promised] Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22 Then they said to him, “Who are you? Tell us, so that we may give an answer to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?” 23 He said, “I am the voice of one shouting in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way of the Lord,’ as the prophet Isaiah said.”

24 Now they had been sent from the Pharisees. 25 They asked him, “Why then are you baptizing, if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” 26 John answered them, “I baptize [only]in water, but among you there stands One whom you do not recognize and of whom you know nothing. 27 It is He [the preeminent One] who comes after me, the strap of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie [even as His slave].” 28 These things occurred in Bethany across the Jordan [at the Jordan River crossing], where John was baptizing.

29 The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, “Look! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is He on behalf of whom I said, ‘After me comes a Man who has a higher rank than I and has priority over me, for He existed before me.’ 31 I did not recognize Him [as the Messiah]; but I came baptizing in water so that He would be [publicly] revealed to Israel.” 32 John gave [further] evidence [testifying officially for the record, with validity and relevance], saying, “I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him. 33 I did not recognize Him [as the Messiah], but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me, ‘He upon whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this One is He who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 I myself have [actually] seen [that happen], and my testimony is that this is the Son of God!”
Jeff, the baptism of Jesus by John the baptist was not the reason that people believed that Jesus was the messiah. It was because of the miracle of raising Lazarus back to life from being dead.
 

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No it is not....Daniel's prophecy was for the Jews only...Jesus created His Church and those in it are saved this includes Jews who believe in Him. However, there are many Jews today that do not believe in Him still as Messiah. Daniel becomes a part of Revelation and both of these books have Hebrew overtures. We can also see in Daniel 3-4 that the book was written in aramaic (gentilian). From then on it is Hebrew.

No Coventology does that quite nicely and blames it on Dispensationalism which is Biblical. There are seven dispensations within the Bible that are distinct from one another. These are time periods where God/Jesus/Holy Spirit interreacted with the people of earth in different ways. This is another study we and get into if you wish.


Dan 9:24 has not be fulfilled yet...Jesus did die for our inequities but that is it so far.
The "essence" of the New Covenant is in Ezekiel 36:25-27.. This covenant with Israel was also inherited by the Church (His Body, His Bride) uses this essence to justifiy and glorify it saints...So far, Saints have only been Justified and many sanctified but not glorified YET...The Rapture will do this for them.

Your Words...."Your religion has dumbed you down to the same unbelief as Israel now suffers under and it is antichrist."

I see your words last evening meant nothing but garbage. I thought you came into the with an open mind....What I have told you is how the Bible Reads and I do not have to remove, add, change a single verse, word, period or Jott or tittle

I will no longer be a party to your rantings. Good Night.. and May God forgive you.
Bearing false witness = "Daniel's prophecy was for the Jews only" = denying Christ
Rhetoric from the serpent is to deny the Righteousness of God found only in CHRIST JESUS our LORD.


You closed your mind to the CLEAR Holy Scriptures/Gospel that are irrevocable = John ch1 , 2 Cor 5:21 , Romans , Hebrews ch8 and 9

When you speak against CHRIST, who fulfills all things, for HE is the Everlasting Righteousness of God = you put on blinders.

You REJECT what the Bible says that you may believe in man-made doctrines which are false-hoods/lies = pre-fib rapture

As such, you will attack any TRUTH that exposes your religion and any person that speaks Holy Spirit TRUTH.
 

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Yes, exactly. This represents a defined unit of time during which Gentiles (unbelievers) can enter into God's favour—salvation.
Question: Please post the scripture where it says that God will close the Door on Gentiles coming to Christ.
 

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The 70th week, the last seven years of the Prophecy in Daniel 9:25-27 remains unfulfilled.
No amount of flowery rhetoric can deny the truth of this;' it is proved by the Prophesies about that 7 year period, esp the second half of it; as Prophesied in Revelation, having never yet happened.

The main proof is that there is no definable fulfilment of a seven year, or a 3 1/2 year period, following the Crucifixion , for the things Jesus and the Prophets told us: must happen before Jesus Returns.

False teachings must be consigned to hell and preterisim is one of them.
Explain how 70 weeks are determined when the 70th week is decapitated, orphaned, and undetermined.

Someone who understands who God's Chosen People are should know better than that.
 

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70 weeks were decreed for that to happen in its entirety.
As Jesus received his anointing at his baptism. He was then recognized as Messiah. That revealing is after the 7 and 62 weeks. The cross bore all its fruit in the final week


Nobody has taught me this. I turn to God and his word and pray for understanding.

Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

You tell me who is in charge

Romans 5:17
For if by the trespass of the one (Adam), death reigned through the one (Adam), much more surely will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in [eternal] life through the One, Jesus Christ.

Romans 5:21
so that, as sin reigned in death, so also grace would reign through righteousness which brings eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to be SAVED by God's Eternal Righteousness which is = the Lord Jesus Christ.

No fulfillment of Daniel 9:24 in CHRIST means no Salvation for the Jew nor for the Gentile.
 
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Daniel 9:24 declares "Seventy weeks are determined".

An unfulfilled 70th week is decapitated, orphaned, and undetermined.

It denies and violates Daniel's declaration.

It is a figment of the futurized fantasy and fallacy of modernist dispensational delusion.

It is nonexistent in historical true Christianity prior to the 19th century.

It merits naught but a return to the pit from which it originated.

Hell.
They are clueless to corrupted intellect of man from which 'dispensationalism and pre-trib' rapture come from.

"That which is highly esteemed by man is an abomination to God" = especially when it Adds to God's words what HE never said.
 
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