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Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

According to the word of God ,who is the kingdom of God taken from and who is it given to?

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Quote the word of God showing who it is taken from and exactly who it is given to .

 

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Quote the word of God showing who it is taken from and exactly who it is given to .

I saw the first time you asked . . . where are you going with this? Do you have a place in mind? Or are you challenging because you think there is no place? Just wondering . . .

Much love!

 

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I saw the first time you asked . . . where are you going with this? Do you have a place in mind? Or are you challenging because you think there is no place? Just wondering . . .

Much love!

Oh ,there is very much a prophecy .
It's found in the book of Daniel.

Daniel shows who exactly the kingdom of God is taken from and who exactly it is given to for an everlasting possession.

Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

 

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Oh ,there is very much a prophecy .
It's found in the book of Daniel.

Daniel shows who exactly the kingdom of God is taken from and who exactly it is given to for an everlasting possession.

Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

Which place did you have in mind?

Much love!

 

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Which place did you have in mind?

Much love!

Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

Ok :)

The word of God shows the kingdom of heaven being taken from.the beast and given to the people of the saints of God.

Daniel 7
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.


These saints are the same saints who reign with Christ in revelation 20.The saints who did not worship the beast or it's image ,nor do they receive it's mark.

Revelation 20:4-6
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

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Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

Ok :)

The word of God shows the kingdom of heaven being taken from.the beast and given to the people of the saints of God.

Daniel 7
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.


These saints are the same saints who reign with Christ in revelation 20.The saints who did not worship the beast or it's image ,nor do they receive it's mark.

Revelation 20:4-6
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

I don't get how you connect the Matthew verse with these others.

Jesus addressed certain people in that time, while Daniel and John are prophesying concerning the end of the age.

Much love!

 

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Jesus is speaking to the beast telling him the kingdom of God will be taken from.him and given to the saints of God.

Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

 

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I don't get how you connect the Matthew verse with these others.

Much love!

Who does the prophecy show the kingdom of God is taken from and who is it given to?


Daniel 7
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

 

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Jesus is speaking to the beast telling him the kingdom of God will be taken from.him and given to the saints of God.

Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

I don't think so.

Let's get more context here, shall we?


Matthew 21:23-46 KJV
23) And when he was come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching, and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority?
24) And Jesus answered and said unto them, I also will ask you one thing, which if ye tell me, I in like wise will tell you by what authority I do these things.
25) The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?
26) But if we shall say, Of men; we fear the people; for all hold John as a prophet.
27) And they answered Jesus, and said, We cannot tell. And he said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things.
28) But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
29) He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
30) And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
31) Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
32) For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.
33) Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34) And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35) And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36) Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37) But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38) But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39) And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40) When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41) They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42) Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43) Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44) And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
45) And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
46) But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

His audience was identified as the chief priests and elders and Pharisees. These you equate with the Beast? Most would say they were Israelites. I think in reading the Gospels and Acts, that's the plain reading of Scripture.

Much love!

 

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Who does the prophecy show the kingdom of God is taken from and who is it given to?

Go back to the time element. Jesus addressed those people in that day, while the Daniel and Revelation prophecies concern the end of the age.

I've got to go. But I'm interested in what proof you will show me to convince me that the leaders of Isreal in Jesus' day are the beast empire at the end of the age. I don't see it. The kingdom of God was in fact taken from them, and given to others that would bear fruit.

The kingdom that is taken from the beast is decidedly NOT the kingdom of God, wouldn't you agree?

Much love!

 

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I don't think so.

Let's get more context here, shall we?


Matthew 21:23-46 KJV
23) And when he was come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching, and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority?
24) And Jesus answered and said unto them, I also will ask you one thing, which if ye tell me, I in like wise will tell you by what authority I do these things.
25) The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?
26) But if we shall say, Of men; we fear the people; for all hold John as a prophet.
27) And they answered Jesus, and said, We cannot tell. And he said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things.
28) But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
29) He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
30) And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
31) Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
32) For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.
33) Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34) And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35) And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36) Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37) But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38) But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39) And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40) When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41) They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42) Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43) Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44) And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
45) And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
46) But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

His audience was identified as the chief priests and elders and Pharisees. These you equate with the Beast? Most would say they were Israelites. I think in reading the Gospels and Acts, that's the plain reading of Scripture.

Much love!

You believe the beast will inherit the kingdom of God forever?


Daniel 7
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.


You don't believe the kingdom of God will be given to the saints of God as the prophecy fortells?

 

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Go back to the time element. Jesus addressed those people in that day, while the Daniel and Revelation prophecies concern the end of the age.

Much love!

Jesus is addressing a people who deny him.
Same people who govern that kingdom today.
The time of the end has not come yet and the beast has not been destroyed.

 

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You believe the beast will inherit the kingdom of God forever?

The beast does not rule in the kingdom of God. These are contrary one to the other.

Much love!

 

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Jesus is addressing a people who deny him.
Same people who govern that kingdom today.

He addressed the rulers of Israel in that day. They are long gone, dust to dust. You are applying Jesus' words to others that He was not addressing.

But even so, how could we imagine the Beast will rule the Kingdom of God? He rules his empire, and that kingdom will be taken from him and given to the saints, but that doesn't change what Jesus told those men.

Much love!

 

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The beast does not rule in the kingdom of God. These are contrary one to the other.

Much love!

Read who the kingdom is taken from.before it is given to the saints of God .



Daniel 7
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

 

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He addressed the rulers of Israel in that day. They are long gone, dust to dust. You are applying Jesus' words to others that He was not addressing.

But even so, how could we imagine the Beast will rule the Kingdom of God? He rules his empire, and that kingdom will be taken from him and given to the saints, but that doesn't change what Jesus told those men.

Much love!

Read who is ruling the kingdom before it is given to the saints of God as an everlasting kingdom.


Daniel 7
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

 

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He addressed the rulers of Israel in that day. They are long gone, dust to dust. You are applying Jesus' words to others that He was not addressing.

But even so, how could we imagine the Beast will rule the Kingdom of God? He rules his empire, and that kingdom will be taken from him and given to the saints, but that doesn't change what Jesus told those men.

Much love!

The same way Jesus said the kingdom.of God will be taken from.the children of Satan and given to someone else.

Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

And Jesus made it perfectly clear they are the children of the devil.He called them that himself.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

 

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The saints will produce the fruit of this kingdom forever.Personally,I believe they deserve it.


Daniel 7
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.





Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

 

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Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

According to the word of God ,who is the kingdom of God taken from and who is it given to?

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Gen 17.3 Abram fell facedown, and God said to him, 4 “As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations. 5 No longer will you be called Abram; your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations. 6 I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you.

God promised Abraham, the man of faith, a people of faith, both Israel and later, Gentile nations. When Israel failed, God passed the torch on to Gentile nations who became Christian nations.

In Matt 21 Jesus told a parable concerning Israel's rejection of her Messiah. This is the nation who would lose their Kingdom.

It is much as David lost his kingdom following his sin with Bathsheba. His sins came back to haunt him and for a time his Kingdom was taken away from him.

Similarly, Israel as a nation was in sin in the time Jesus came. The nation rejected Jesus as their King, and consequently the Kingdom was removed from them when the Romans came in and defeated them.

So the Kingdom anointed by God was removed from Israel and the authority of God's Kingdom was given, instead, to their enemies, the Romans, who then presided over the Jewish people and over the holy land. In fact, the Roman Empire was ultimately converted to Christianity so that it also could be said to carry God's Kingdom just as David had carried God's Kingdom on behalf of the nation Israel.

The Roman Empire was bilateral, with major sections in the East and in the West. But ultimately, according to prophecy, the Roman Empire was broken up into states. We are told that 10 of these states will be formed into the Antichristian Empire in the last days.

But prior to this, these European states have gone through Christian stages, carrying the Kingdom of God within their domains. And so, it's been fulfilled that the Kingdom of God was taken from Israel and given to people more worthy of it, namely the Europeans.

I personally believe that even as all of these nations of faith have fallen so will God ultimately restore them, including Israel. That's why Jesus' disciples asked him, "Will Israel be restored at this time?" They were told that it's a matter of times and seasons reserved to God.