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[Spiritual Israelite]

Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

According to the word of God ,who is the kingdom of God taken from and who is it given to?

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All you need to do is read the surrounding verses to see that. Very simple. Who was Jesus talking to there? He started talking to them here:

Matthew 21:23 And when he was come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching, and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority?

He was still talking to "the chief priests and the elders of the people" of Israel in verse 43, so that's who Jesus was saying would have the kingdom of God taken from them.

Also, you can just keep reading after verse 43 to see who Jesus was talking about as well.

Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. 45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.

So, the chief priests and the Pharisees in Israel had the kingdom of God taken from them. As Paul wrote about in Romans 11, they were cut off because of unbelief and Gentiles believers were grafted in with the remnant of Israelite believers.

 

[Douggg]

Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

According to the word of God ,who is the kingdom of God taken from and who is it given to?

Post that prophecy.

In verse 42, Jesus was speaking to the religious leaders about the generation of Jews in his day, who on the whole rejected Him as their King of Israel messiah.

42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Jesus was saying that generation of the nation of Israel would reject him... i.e thus would not produce any kind of fruits that come from the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God did not flourish in their day.

The nation of Israel that would bring forth the fruits is the end times nation of Israel - which become Christians during the forthcoming 7 year 70th week, in the middle part of it in Revelation 12:10, at the time when Satan is cast down to the earth.

Revelation 12:
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Oh ,there is very much a prophecy .
It's found in the book of Daniel.

Daniel shows who exactly the kingdom of God is taken from and who exactly it is given to for an everlasting possession.

Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

First, do you even know what fruit the kingdom's people produce?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

In verse 42, Jesus was speaking to the religious leaders about the generation of Jews in his day, who on the whole rejected Him as their King of Israel messiah.

42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Jesus was saying that generation of the nation of Israel would reject him... i.e thus would not produce any kind of fruits that come from the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God did not flourish in their day.

The nation of Israel that would bring forth the fruits is the end times nation of Israel - which become Christians during the forthcoming 7 year 70th week, in the middle part of it in Revelation 12:10, at the time when Satan is cast down to the earth.

Revelation 12:
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Doug, you're just wrong about everything. When was the kingdom of God taken from the chief priests, elders and Pharisees that Jesus was talking to? After Christ's death and resurrection. That's when they were cut off (see Romans 11). Who became part of the kingdom of God after that who were formerly not part of the kingdom of God? The Gentiles, of course. They were grafted in with the remnant of Israelite believers into the kingdom of God.

The nation that kingdom of God was given to was "the holy nation" that consisted of people who were formerly not the people of God.

1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

This nation that the kingdom of God was given to is the spiritual Israel of God. It is the church, consisting of Jew and Gentile believers. Before they were not the people of God, but the blood of Christ brought them together in one body (Ephesians 2:11-22).

 

[TribulationSigns]

In verse 42, Jesus was speaking to the religious leaders about the generation of Jews in his day, who on the whole rejected Him as their King of Israel messiah.

42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Jesus was saying that generation of the nation of Israel would reject him... i.e thus would not produce any kind of fruits that come from the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God did not flourish in their day.

The nation of Israel that would bring forth the fruits is the end times nation of Israel - which become Christians during the forthcoming 7 year 70th week, in the middle part of it in Revelation 12:10, at the time when Satan is cast down to the earth.

Revelation 12:
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Wrong timing. False premillennial Dispensationalism doctrine with so-called gap theory.

The builders who rejected Jesus Christ were the Jews, the people of His congregation, and the temple of his body at that time. The kingdom representative was taken from them and given to the CHURCH - a holy nation, that brings forth the fruits thereof, and it has been since Pentecost! Read carefully with the context:

Joh 2:18-21
(18) Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
(19) Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
(20) Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
(21) But he spake of the temple of his body.

1Pe 2:5-10
(5) Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
(6) Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
(7) Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
(8) And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
(9) But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
(10) Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

The Gentiles were outside the commonwealth of Israel until the Cross when Christ removed His kingdom representative from Old Testament Israel and gave to the New Testament church where Gentiles NOW obtain salvation and become the builders of the holy nation of God where Christ is NOW a chief cornerstone. Hello??

Moreover, when Christ cursed the fig tree, it represented the old testament Israel that she no longer represents God's Kingdom:

Mat 21:18-20
(18) Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered.
(19) And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.
(20) And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!

The Old Testament Israel with wicked rulers did not product fruits (saving people as supposed) anymore. And they rejected Messiah the Prince, so Christ cursed them, the very builders who came against Christ, so that their old testament Israel fell and will NEVER be a representative of God's Kingdom again, FOREVER! Get it Douggg! Your 1948 Israel does NOT qualify else God is not telling us the truth.

This is why Christ took the kingdom representative away from Israel and gave to the church where she will produce fruits by saving people through the testimony of salvation gospel all over the world as written in Revelation 12:10. The kingdom of God has already established upon the New Testament church where Christ is NOW a chief cornerstone since the Cross! Not shall be established in National Israel once again in the future as your false doctrine alleges. Gee-whiz!

 

[Douggg]

Doug, you're just wrong about everything. When was the kingdom of God taken from the chief priests, elders and Pharisees that Jesus was talking to? After Christ's death and resurrection. That's when they were cut off (see Romans 11). Who became part of the kingdom of God after that who were formerly not part of the kingdom of God? The Gentiles, of course. They were grafted in with the remnant of Israelite believers into the kingdom of God.

The nation that kingdom of God was given to was "the holy nation" that consisted of people who were formerly not the people of God.

1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

This nation that the kingdom of God was given to is the spiritual Israel of God. It is the church, consisting of Jew and Gentile believers. Before they were not the people of God, but the blood of Christ brought them together in one body (Ephesians 2:11-22).

1Peter2:9, Peter is speaking about the particular generation of Christians of his day. So that verse is not the nation that Jesus was referring to.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

This nation that the kingdom of God was given to is the spiritual Israel of God. It is the church, consisting of Jew and Gentile believers. Before they were not the people of God, but the blood of Christ brought them together in one body (Ephesians 2:11-22).

No, not spiritual Israel. But the nation of Israel over there right now, which will turn to Jesus and the gospel of salvation in the middle of the forthcoming 7 year 70th week, in Revelation 12:10.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

1Peter2:5, Peter is speaking about the particular generation of Christians of his day. So that verse is not the nation that Jesus was referring to.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

No, not spiritual Israel. But the nation of Israel over there right now, which will turn to Jesus and the gospel of salvation in the middle of the forthcoming 7 year 70th week, in Revelation 12:10.

I'm not sure if you interpret even one single verse relating to end times correctly. You just get everything wrong. Over and over again. That is not talking about a chronological generation. Good grief, Doug. Open your spiritual eyes. Do you somehow not know that the New Testament was written in Greek? Do you ever consult Hebrew or Greek resources to gain further understanding of what you are reading in your English translation? The word "generation" there is translated from the Greek word "genos" (Strong's G1085).

Here are the definitions for that word:



Can you see here that the word is not used to describe a chronological generation (generation of people living at a particular time) as you think it does? Instead, the word refers to a type or stock of people. In the case of 1 Peter 2:9 it's talking about Christians. Obviously. Hello? Wake up, Doug. I can't fathom how any Christian cannot see this. Peter indicated that the "chosen generation" and "holy nation" were formerly not the people of God but are now the people of God. Who were formerly not the people of God but are now the people of God, Doug? This shouldn't be hard.

What did Paul say here about that:

Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

There it is. Plain as day. The people who were formerly not the people of God but became the people of God are Gentile believers who were joined together with Israelite believers by Christ "who hath made both one". This is Christian fundamental teaching, Doug. How can you not discern this? It just baffles me to no end. Please ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7).

 

[TribulationSigns]

1Peter2:9, Peter is speaking about the particular generation of Christians of his day. So that verse is not the nation that Jesus was referring to.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

No, not spiritual Israel. But the nation of Israel over there right now, which will turn to Jesus and the gospel of salvation in the middle of the forthcoming 7 year 70th week, in Revelation 12:10.

Can't you ever read the context of the verses you quoted before you another false statement?! Stop reading into Scripture and listen to what God says:

1Pe 2:5-10
(5) Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
(6) Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
(7) Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
(8) And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
(9) But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
(10) Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Who are the "lively stones that God spoke of?" Aren't they the CHRISTIANS? They are Gentiles who once were not God's people in the past during the Old Testament becasue Israel was a representative of God's kingdom at that time! But now they are God's people in Christ after the cross and were given a kingdom representative that he took from Israel!

God did NOT talk about the physical generation you thought but a "chosen" generation that is made up of people in Christ chosen by God! A spiritual family (generation) of Christ. They are the one who builds a SPIRITUAL HOUSE of Israel, the church, not a physical nation Israel!

 

[Douggg]

That is not talking about a chronological generation.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Who is "ye" that Peter was speaking to ?

Peter was speaking about that specific group of Christians of his day.

 

[TribulationSigns]

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Who is "ye" that Peter was speaking to ?

Peter was speaking about that specific group of Christians of his day.

Is that who you think this is who Peter talked about? Nope! Totally wrong. You need to go back to Scripture and listen what God says (again!)

Listen, Douggg, the nation of Israel that once represented the kingdom of God, agreed? As it is written:

Exodus 19:5-6

• "Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
• And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel."

...is NOW no longer representing that kingdom, the Church is NOW that Holy Nation representing the Kingdom today and it has been since Cross! Again as it is written:

1st Peter 2:9-10

• "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
• Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy."

I mean, COME ON, how much plainer can it get? If we will receive it, the Israel of God "IS" the Church. Moreover, haven't you already forgotten that, by Christ's use of the phrase, "The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner" in Matthew 21, it is perfectly clear He spoke of Israel losing that kingdom representation because they rejected Him. Hello?! And the Church being given it, and that it would bring forth fruit, didn't we?! And you think it isn't that exactly what happened? Where is the mystery? If we will receive it. If you seek truth, look at the context of Matthew, then look at the whole context of 1st Peter? Clearly this is what God spoke of.

1st Peter 2:6-9

• "Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
• Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
• And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
• But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:"

All in context, dude! That's the Church that is being talked about there, and in perfect agreement with Psalms 118:22 and Christ's Words in Matthew 21. So when we compare scripture with scripture, which is the only sound hermeneutic, it is perfectly clear what "Nation" God took it away from, and what "Nation" God gave it to. The Gentiles, who are NOW grafted into the Covenant tree of Israel, to become Jews, and children of God. Do you get it? Well, again, if YOU will receive it. Paul confirmed what Peter wrote:

Ephesians 2:11-22

• "Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
• That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
• But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
• For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
• Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
• And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
• And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
• For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
• Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
• And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
• In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
• In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."

Does the foundation of the apostles and prophets sound like national Israel to you? No...They are formerly Gentiles, aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, are now made one with Israel. God's word interpreting scripture is better than your word (and charts) any day! And God bless those who agree.

 

[TribulationSigns]

This is Christian fundamental teaching, Doug. How can you not discern this? It just baffles me to no end. Please ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7).

Indeed. The false teaching of Dispensationalism where they believe the Jews would be "re-grafted" into the tree of salvation and that Israel as a nation would be re-established as a prelude to the end time. This doctrine has blinded and deceived so many people just like the Jewish leaders of Christ's day who can't understand the Word Christ said and at the same time, they did not realize that they as a kingdom representation was taken the moment they rejected and put Christ upon the Cross. Nothing new under the Sun!

 

[tailgator]

Gen 17.3 Abram fell facedown, and God said to him, 4 “As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations. 5 No longer will you be called Abram; your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations. 6 I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you.

God promised Abraham, the man of faith, a people of faith, both Israel and later, Gentile nations. When Israel failed, God passed the torch on to Gentile nations who became Christian nations.

In Matt 21 Jesus told a parable concerning Israel's rejection of her Messiah. This is the nation who would lose their Kingdom.

It is much as David lost his kingdom following his sin with Bathsheba. His sins came back to haunt him and for a time his Kingdom was taken away from him.

Similarly, Israel as a nation was in sin in the time Jesus came. The nation rejected Jesus as their King, and consequently the Kingdom was removed from them when the Romans came in and defeated them.

So the Kingdom anointed by God was removed from Israel and the authority of God's Kingdom was given, instead, to their enemies, the Romans, who then presided over the Jewish people and over the holy land. In fact, the Roman Empire was ultimately converted to Christianity so that it also could be said to carry God's Kingdom just as David had carried God's Kingdom on behalf of the nation Israel.

The Roman Empire was bilateral, with major sections in the East and in the West. But ultimately, according to prophecy, the Roman Empire was broken up into states. We are told that 10 of these states will be formed into the Antichristian Empire in the last days.

But prior to this, these European states have gone through Christian stages, carrying the Kingdom of God within their domains. And so, it's been fulfilled that the Kingdom of God was taken from Israel and given to people more worthy of it, namely the Europeans.

I personally believe that even as all of these nations of faith have fallen so will God ultimately restore them, including Israel. That's why Jesus' disciples asked him, "Will Israel be restored at this time?" They were told that it's a matter of times and seasons reserved to God.

The kingdom of God does not move from.onevlocation to another.
It is located in the same place it was first promised to Abraham.

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Notice in the passage above ,it is not the kingdom of heaven which moves to the east or west.It is people who are traveling east or west to arrive at the kingdom.
The kingdom shall be taken from.the subjects in that kingdom when it is given to Abraham,,Isaac and Jacob.


I agree Rome was in control.of that kingdom at one time but it has changed hands through the ages.It never moved though.It is in the exact same location it always was.It has not been given to the saints yet though.The beast dwells in.that land now.

 

[tailgator]

In verse 42, Jesus was speaking to the religious leaders about the generation of Jews in his day, who on the whole rejected Him as their King of Israel messiah.

42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Jesus was saying that generation of the nation of Israel would reject him... i.e thus would not produce any kind of fruits that come from the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God did not flourish in their day.

The nation of Israel that would bring forth the fruits is the end times nation of Israel - which become Christians during the forthcoming 7 year 70th week, in the middle part of it in Revelation 12:10, at the time when Satan is cast down to the earth.

Revelation 12:
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

The phariseeess were never destroyed.They continued right up to today and dwell on the kingdom today.
The Pharisees became rabbinic Judaism.
They also never gave up rejecting Jesus and still do today.

 

[tailgator]

First, do you even know what fruit the kingdom's people produce?

I do.I also know the saints recieve the kingdom forever once it has been taken from the beast and given to them.

But first the beast will persecute the saints for 42 months.Then the saints will be given the kingdom.

Do you know the location of the kingdom promised to these saints?

Daniel 7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.



I will give you a hint.
It was promised to Abraham and his seed for an everlasting possession.

Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.

 

[tailgator]

I've noticed there are many people who support the beast and they want the beast to control the kingdom forever.They do not want to he seed of Abraham to be given the kingdom.These same people claim to be Abraham's seed .

I will be happy after the kingdom of heaven is taken from the beast and given to the saints for an everlasting possession.


Daniel 7
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

 

[TribulationSigns]

I do.

And? You didn’t answer my question. What is the fruit the Lord spoke about?

 

[tailgator]

And? You didn’t answer my question. What is the fruit the Lord spoke about?

You never answered the first question.

Who is the kingdom of heaven taken from and who is it given to?


26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

 

[tailgator]

Who are these being cast out of the kingdom of heaven ?

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

 

[Randy Kluth]

The kingdom of God does not move from.onevlocation to another.
It is located in the same place it was first promised to Abraham.

That claim contradicts Jesus' claim that the Kingdom of God would be taken from one people and located with another people. It apparently does the opposite of what you claim?

If you will read the book of Ezekiel you will notice that the glory of God moves from one place to another. It actually can be seen to move away from God's Temple in Jerusalem as idolatry is found among the priests and among the people. It is a preparation for judgment. God moves away from His people, annulling His covenant of protection from them so that they may be judged and removed from the land.

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Notice in the passage above ,it is not the kingdom of heaven which moves to the east or west.It is people who are traveling east or west to arrive at the kingdom.
The kingdom shall be taken from.the subjects in that kingdom when it is given to Abraham,,Isaac and Jacob.

Both things can be true, that people from around the world can come to the Kingdom of heaven and that the Kingdom can be removed from one people and transferred to another people. The Kingdom of heaven exists in one place in heaven and in a number of places on earth because at different times different parts of the earth make themselves worthy of it.

I agree Rome was in control.of that kingdom at one time but it has changed hands through the ages.It never moved though.It is in the exact same location it always was.It has not been given to the saints yet though.The beast dwells in.that land now.

The Roman State adopted Christianity nominally. That means that Christianity had become the chosen religion for the empire.

That does not mean, however, that all of the people within that empire live proper Christian lives. With a strong majority supporting Christian standards it can be said that God's Kingdom resides there, if only temporarily.

It was the same way with Israel. God's Kingdom resided there for a time, at times suffering a bad king, along with divine judgment, and at other times enjoying a good king and God's blessings. This is Scriptural truth--not mere attempts at defining what God's Kingdom can and cannot do.

 

[marks]

The same way Jesus said the kingdom.of God will be taken from.the children of Satan and given to someone else.

Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

And Jesus made it perfectly clear they are the children of the devil.He called them that himself.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

That's not connecting the dots though.

These are two different prophecies.

Much love!