Once Saved Always Saved

[Taken]

Soooo, you're a Biblical Literalist who NEEDS to see the wording of everything explicity laid out?
Then why don't YOU show me WHERE the actual words are in the Bible that say:

- "Sola Scripture" or "Scripture ALONE" is our "Sole Authority"
- We are saved by "Faith Alone" or "Sola Fide"
- "Once Saves ALWAYS Saved"

Can't find those verses??
Then WHY do you believe in them??

OSAS...is not a Scriptural Quote.

Scriptures teaches, become Converted, and For EVER, one shall be with the Lord God Almighty.

Scripture requires the individual to CONFESS their heartful Belief.

You teach, that is not necessary, but have NOT one scripture to Support that notion.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Did you ever read this?
Matthew 7:1-2 (NKJV)
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

Quote where I judged your faith.

I was pointing out your false accusation. OSASers love playing the victim while judging others!

Yeah and you love to ignore your accusations,

when you judge osas you judge me man

your losing your reputation by refusing to man up

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What???

Are you a universalist?
Was a jew who called himself a christian yet condemned by Paul because they added works saved?

 

[Taken]

That doesn't answer why you preach OSAS to Christians!

I am on an OPEN forum.
Who is a Christian here?
Who is not a Christian who is here?
I didn't take a pole.
Scripture does not say, take a pole, and only speak the Word of God to Christians.

I hope you're right. I can't lose! But honestly, I think OSASers will have lots of blood on their hands on Judgment Day.

What Blood on a Believers hands are you talking about?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Soooo, you're a Biblical Literalist who NEEDS to see the wording of everything explicity laid out?
Then why don't YOU show me WHERE the actual words are in the Bible that say:

- "Sola Scripture" or "Scripture ALONE" is our "Sole Authority"
- We are saved by "Faith Alone" or "Sola Fide"
- "Once Saves ALWAYS Saved"

Can't find those verses??
Then WHY do you believe in them??

No I am a person who looks at reality

jesus said a man must be born of water and spirit

then when he told him how one is born, he told them faith and never once mentioned baptism

you see things where they are not. Then when someone asks you to show them, you can’t so you deflect like your doing now

 

[Taken]

What? lol

Well ya....if you don't believe in OSAS...
Don't you have to keep repeating getting saved?

 

[kcnalp]

Yeah and you love to ignore your accusations,

when you judge osas you judge me man

your losing your reputation by refusing to man up

Still waiting for your quote where I judged you.

 

[Taken]

And that last part is where yo ALWAYS fall off the tracks . . .

Some people do claim that.
Just covering all bases.

It's not about "trying really hard" or doing works to "keep" your salvation.

Okay...so works, and trying hard, is not how you KEEP your salvation.

If you surrender to Christ, ther you STRIVE to not sin,

Really? You Strive to KEEP BELIEVING IN the Lord God?

although you will stumble sometimes because of your fallen nature.

So, men STUMBLE, and begin to NOT believe in the Lord God?

When you DO stumble - you pray for forgiveness -

So...you Stumble...wondering, doubting, if you really Believe in the Lord God?...sort of talk yourself back into Believing;
Then Go Ask God to forgive you for Doubting?

 

[kcnalp]

I am on an OPEN forum.
Who is a Christian here?
Who is not a Christian who is here?
I didn't take a pole.
Scripture does not say, take a pole, and only speak the Word of God to Christians.

This forum is for "Christians Only". And still, why would you preach OSAS to anyone? Why Christians? Why unbelievers?

What Blood on a Believers hands are you talking about?

The blood of new Christians who believe they can never be lost no matter what they do, because OSASers said so.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Still waiting for your quote where I judged you.

Great! You can do anything you like and still be saved! Right? I guess that's why many OSASers live like the Devil and still profess to be Christians.

let me guess, this was not directed to men.

whatever, i am osas. So this is to me!

 

[kcnalp]

Well ya....if you don't believe in OSAS...
Don't you have to keep repeating getting saved?

No. Just forgiven.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

This forum is for "Christians Only". And still, why would you preach OSAS to anyone? Why Christians? Why unbelievers?

The blood of new Christians who believe they can never be lost no matter what they do, because OSASers said so.

We teach the gospel

and the gospel teaches whoever believes will live forever, never die, has eternal life and will be risen

call it osas call it whatever you want, its faith in christ

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No. Just forgiven.

Forgive is saved, your not saved unforgiven

 

[kcnalp]

let me guess, this was not directed to men.

It was a legitimate question. "You can do anything you like and still be saved! Right?"

whatever, i am osas. So this is to me!

So, why preach OSAS?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I preach Jesus

Jesus preaches eternal life

why preach conditional life?

 

[kcnalp]

We teach the gospel

and the gospel teaches whoever believes will live forever, never die, has eternal life and will be risen

call it osas call it whatever you want, its faith in christ

Why OSAS to Christians? Why OSAS to unbelievers? Doesn't make any sense at all.

 

[kcnalp]

I preach Jesus

Jesus preaches eternal life

why preach conditional life?

This is a Christian forum. You're saying we have eternal life and can never lose it no matter what! Why are you preaching OSAS to us?

 

[kcnalp]

I preach Jesus

Jesus preaches eternal life

why preach conditional life?

Because it is "conditional".
Romans 11:22 (NKJV)
22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It was a legitimate question. "You can do anything you like and still be saved! Right?"

If one sin no matter how small it is makes us worthy of death. What makes you more worthy of salvation?

So, why preach OSAS?

I preach Jesus, I do Not teach osas. That’s a term

i teach what Jesus taught whoever comes to him Will never be put to shame, and he was save them eternally, and give them his spirit of a pledge, ie, the onus is on Gods power not our

why do you preach salvation by mans power and not Gods?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Because it is "conditional".
Romans 11:22 (NKJV)
22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.

If you can be cut off

why would Jesus say you will never die, live forever and be raised. Why would he give us the spirit as a pledge UnTIL ressurection day, why would paul say he is coming ride to god will complete his work. Amd that he has perfected us forever?