Once Saved Always Saved

[kcnalp]

How can you get out? Jesus said he would never let you go

more importantly. Why would you want to get out?

Because people listen to doctrines of demons. And they depart from the Christian Faith.
1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

Do you lack faith that was the right way?

No, do you? Like I said, I hope OSAS is right. I can't lose!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

But many do live like the Devil because they believe they can't fall away. They've been duped.

A child of god can’t live in sin

what part of the words of joh are you having a problem with?

licentious people are not saved, they never have been saved, that’s why they live like the devil, they have never seen or known God

Again, your lack of faith in Christ amazes me

 

[Taken]

Those who partake of the Holy Spirit are God's people! And they can certainly depart from the Christian Faith.

1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

Already covered that...
Men who have NOT heartfully Confessed belief IN the Lord Jesus and the one who Sent Him...absolutely can fall from faith.
(They are neither Saved or Quickened).

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Because people listen to doctrines of demons. And they depart from the Christian Faith.
1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

People depart the faith because they never had faith to begin with

No, do you? Like I said, I hope OSAS is right. I can't lose!

You will lose, because your trying to earn grace, you can’t earn a gift, osas is only true if you repent and trust god completely,,you have failed to do both

osas is not a get out of jail so I can live Amy way I want card. You false accuse what you do not understand

 

[kcnalp]

anyone who walks into a church or a body of Christ partakes of the Holy Spirit.

You're kidding, right?

Your trusting your ability to keep,striving, not Christs ability to keep you

Does Jesus have the ability to save all people?

why do you trust self and not Christ? What kind of hope is that?

Who said I do?

 

[kcnalp]

Jesus said eat the food which endures forever, which one can eat and not die, whoever eats will never hunger or thirst, never die, live forever, and assured they will be ressurected by Christ not delivered to him

let’s start here, John 6, what part says we can die? Or will hunger? That we may not be saved?

1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So you're admitting Jews could be saved and then lost?

Nope

but according to the law. They though they could,,they are no different than you really, they just follow,a different law

Abraham believed god and it was a credited to him righteousness

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Sure it is eternal security. Nobody can force us to forsake Jesus!

but if you can forsake, it’s not eternal it’s conditional

your still trusting your ability to strive, not gods ability to change you

Now you're saying I'm not a Christian?

If your working to earn salvation paul says you teach a different gospel. Ha also calls you a fool,for entering in the spirit and trying to perfect in the flesh (your own power to continue to work)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Great! You can do anything you like and still be saved! Right? I guess that's why many OSASers live like the Devil and still profess to be Christians.

Dude stop right here

I have said people who live in sin have never seen good,

your not talking to me, your talking to people who turn the grace of God to licentiousness

they are just as lost as the proud worker who thinks he can mock the cross by earning his salvation by his works

both legalism and licentiousness come from pride.

 

[kcnalp]

People depart the faith because they never had faith to begin with

No Scripture?
1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

You will lose, because your trying to earn grace, you can’t earn a gift, osas is only true if you repent and trust god completely,,you have failed to do both

See how you prove me right! OSASers are some of the most judgmental "Christians"!

osas is not a get out of jail so I can live Amy way I want card. You false accuse what you do not understand

I didn't "accuse" of anything.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You're kidding, right?

kidding? I have known many a non believer who comes to church because they taste the HSs power. They are just not ready to give up their sin, so they do not take the leap,of faith,

Does Jesus have the ability to save all people?

what does this have to do with Jesus changing his sheep?

Who said I do?

Your the one who says YOU must strive, that’s trust in self not Christ

 

[kcnalp]

osas is only true if you repent and trust god completely,,you have failed to do both

Already covered that...
Men who have NOT heartfully Confessed belief IN the Lord Jesus and the one who Sent Him...absolutely can fall from faith.
(They are neither Saved or Quickened).

Not "faith", THE FAITH.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

I already explained that verse, whether you agree or not is beside the point

your turn dude, explain how Jesus lied in John 6

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No Scripture?
1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

See how you prove me right! OSASers are some of the most judgmental "Christians"!

I didn't "accuse" of anything.

Let’s see

you accuse me of believing one can live like the devil and be saved. False

practice what you preach dude

faith there is the gospel. Many come to churches and enter the faith. But before taking the leap of faith and recieving Christ, they depart

also, as we have witnessed in the last 50,years. Many churches have departed the faith

it does not mean the one who had eternal life who was perfected forever, is lost

 

[Taken]

Because people listen to doctrines of demons. And they depart from the Christian Faith.
1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

No, do you? Like I said, I hope OSAS is right. I can't lose!

No need to HOPE for what IS...

Heb 10:
[12] But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for everthem that are sanctified.

THEM that are sanctified...ARE set apart.
Body given unto death, crucified with Christ.
Soul restored / saved, by accepting His Offering.
Spirit quickened / born again of Gods Seed, by accepting His Gift.

1 John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

By the Power of God, NEVER AGAIN can a man (born of God) SIN (disbelieve) Against the Lord God Almighty.

Men Tresspass Against men? Absolutely.
Men forgiven men of Trespasses? Yes.

Men forgiven men of SIN? No.
Sin is Against God, (for disbelief), and ONLY God can forgive SIN.

(Unless you are of a Tribe of Israel, and remain Under the Law...SINS are determined according to the LAW)

IF you are UNDER GRACE, SIN is Disbelief in the Lord God Almighty.

 

[kcnalp]

but if you can forsake, it’s not eternal it’s conditional

Do you obey God?

Matthew 7:21 (NKJV)
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

your still trusting your ability to strive, not gods ability to change you

Like I said, OSASers are some of the most judgmental on Earth.

If your working to earn salvation paul says you teach a different gospel. Ha also calls you a fool,for entering in the spirit and trying to perfect in the flesh (your own power to continue to work)

If?

 

[kcnalp]

I already explained that verse, whether you agree or not is beside the point

your turn dude, explain how Jesus lied in John 6

Can't you quote John 6?

 

[kcnalp]

Let’s see

you accuse me of believing one can live like the devil and be saved.

Quote my "accusation".

False

practice what you preach dude

faith there is the gospel. Many come to churches and enter the faith. But before taking the leap of faith and recieving Christ, they depart

also, as we have witnessed in the last 50,years. Many churches have departed the faith

it does not mean the one who had eternal life who was perfected forever, is lost

If someone "enters the Christian Faith" he is a Christian. You're getting ridiculous.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Do you obey God?

If not, I have never met or sin God, because I have failed to repent and God has not made me a new creature

Matthew 7:21 (NKJV)
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

this is descriptive, not prescriptive

Like I said, OSASers are some of the most judgmental on Earth.

Yet you have judged my faith falsly since we first started talking, I guess that’s ok smh

If?

Did Paul stutter?

 

[Taken]

osas is only true if you repent and trust god completely,,you have failed to do both

OSAS.... is ONLY TRUE ONCE A MAN IS SAVED....duh!

Repent, comes before confession.
ORDER and WAY.

No need to mention REPENTING....
You are not a beginner...