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As I have stated brethren, do not allow yourselves to be deceived by men's Dispensationalist theories that started in 1830's Great Britain along with the false pre-trib rapture theory.

If you adhere to men's false pre-trib rapture theory, one of their Dispensationalist doctrines you will have heard, which is nowhere... written in God's Word, is how they think Jesus will come PRIOR to the "great tribulation" to rapture the Church, while the unbelieving Jews remain to go through the trib, but some of them become 'tribulation saints' (their term, not in The Bible) convert to Jesus during... the "great tribulation". That idea is nowhere... written in God's Word. Just the opposite idea is written, that the unbelieving Jews which God spiritually blinded away from The Gospel will remain in that condition all the way... through the coming trib until Jesus appears at His future return.

In Revelation, and the Old Testament prophets, those who will be in shame when Jesus appears, and will wish for the hills and the mountains to "Fall on us", are those blinded Jews that go through the tribulation and when Jesus appears, they go into shame for having rejected Him. So no... conversions happen going into the "great tribulation". Whatever one believed prior to the "great tribulation", that is the belief each will remain with, until Jesus returns.

The main reason the pre-trib rapture/Dispensationalist crowd teaches these above ideas is because they are doing it to try and prove the pre-trib rapture theory isn't fake. They falsely teach that Jesus raptures His Church out prior to the "great tribulation", and they will rule with Jesus in Heaven, and then return after... the tribulation, and even still... reign from Heaven with Him during the Millennium, while the Jews' nation like Old Testament times is restored on earth. It is a false separation theme they teach.
Oh no.
Pure baloney on your part.
100% lies on your part.

I can quite handily defed the pretrib rapture.
Take any dynamic.
Debate that concept.
Watch me make you go against the bible.
Easy peasy.
 

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The Dispensationalist Movement began with John Nelson Darby in 1830's Great Britain, the same... guy that first taught the FALSE Pre-trib Rapture theory in a Christian Church.

Even the devil knows Bible Scripture and can quote it perfectly to deceive, an example being how the devil ADDED to the Psalms 90 Scripture he quoted to Jesus in Luke 4 during Christ's 40 day temptation.

Likewise, the false prophets also know Bible Scripture, and use it to deceive with. How else would they get the gullible to be deceived if they didn't spout a lot of truth also? But just like the devil's quote in Luke 4, he only added one short phrase ("at any time" - KJV), which changed the meaning of the whole Psalms 90 Scripture he was quoting.
Well, your smear job is cheap.
It's like you depend on low information members to spread all that extra biblical mess around.
Labeling members as inspired by the devil and false prophets that are compared to satan and with the same evil intent as satan every time they quote the bible.

You are one desperate desperado.

Here is a novel idea for you;
Instead of going personal, show us your superior interpretation.
 

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There is no verse in the NT that says that "Jesus was taught by the Holy Spirit".

Also, Paul told us that the Gospel that He preaches, .... he received it from "no Man".

In Acts 15, you find that the apostles met Paul, and from that time, they all had HIS Gospel..

Paul said of HIS Gospel, that is it "MY Gospel"... 3x in the NT.

This is why Paul said that if anyone preached any other Gospel this His..., then you become this one.

Galatians 1:8



That is not the issue.
The issue is timing.
In other words... when did an Apostle know Paul's Gospel..????? and obviously Peter didnt know it in Acts 2, as Paul was not yet called by Jesus into His Minstry as "the Apostle to the Gentiles".. to deliver "The Gospel of the Grace of God".

Also, in Acts 10......you find God giving Peter the revelation, that Gentiles can be saved... and that is 10 yrs after Jesus is back in Heaven.
So, it took time before all the Apostles had the same understanding that Paul had.. and in Acts 15, that was resolved, for them all.




Yes, and that is for today. = Gal 1:8
This ends when the Trib starts.

So, right now.. "in the time of the Gentiles".... when you hear or read that The Cross is only for some.. but not for the world.. as the Cult CALVINISTS teach, then they are teaching a FALSE Gospel that denies The Truth and rejects Paul's Gospel.



Of course......but, see, once again.... The Cross started a Transition from the OT... to the NT.....so, it took time before everything that had changed, doctrinally, was understood by all the Apostles.
Quote: "There is no verse in the NT that says that "Jesus was taught by the Holy Spirit"."

No "verse"
Are you saying you KNOW FOR A FACT he was not influenced in any way, or enlightened by the Holy Spirit?
Maybe you do not know the office of the Holy Spirit?
If He was totally equipped as an infant ,as you seem to believe, was he using a saw and hammer at age 3?

Did He need the Baptism in the Holy Spirit at his water baptism?
Was he already filled with the Holy Spirit?

I think you neither understand his development spiritually , or his earthly walk as a human.
 

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What does the Bible say about the kingdom

[Psa 145:13 KJV] 13 Thy kingdom [is] an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion [endureth] throughout all generations.
[Isa 9:7 KJV] 7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
[Dan 2:44 KJV] 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, [but] it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
[Dan 7:18 KJV] 18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
[Mat 5:3 KJV] 3 Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
[Mat 5:20 KJV] 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

These verses do not support saying the kingdom is as you say
He is currently King.
He will be king.
He will sit in David's throne.
He already has a kingdom.
The new Jerusalem will be established ( the kingdom)
He currently sits on a throne in heaven and has a kingdom.

You seem to not understand any of that.
The King was among them and they were completely oblivious to it.

Your modifications to the bible, have that concept as " he thought he came to establish a Jewish kingdom but failed"
Then your doctrine dictates " enter plan b...the cross"

Just appalling, how anyone can twist the testimony of Jesus.
 
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There is no verse in the NT that says that "Jesus was taught by the Holy Spirit".

Also, Paul told us that the Gospel that He preaches, .... he received it from "no Man".

In Acts 15, you find that the apostles met Paul, and from that time, they all had HIS Gospel..

Paul said of HIS Gospel, that is it "MY Gospel"... 3x in the NT.

This is why Paul said that if anyone preached any other Gospel this His..., then you become this one.

Galatians 1:8



That is not the issue.
The issue is timing.
In other words... when did an Apostle know Paul's Gospel..????? and obviously Peter didnt know it in Acts 2, as Paul was not yet called by Jesus into His Minstry as "the Apostle to the Gentiles".. to deliver "The Gospel of the Grace of God".

Also, in Acts 10......you find God giving Peter the revelation, that Gentiles can be saved... and that is 10 yrs after Jesus is back in Heaven.
So, it took time before all the Apostles had the same understanding that Paul had.. and in Acts 15, that was resolved, for them all.




Yes, and that is for today. = Gal 1:8
This ends when the Trib starts.

So, right now.. "in the time of the Gentiles".... when you hear or read that The Cross is only for some.. but not for the world.. as the Cult CALVINISTS teach, then they are teaching a FALSE Gospel that denies The Truth and rejects Paul's Gospel.



Of course......but, see, once again.... The Cross started a Transition from the OT... to the NT.....so, it took time before everything that had changed, doctrinally, was understood by all the Apostles.
Quote: "Also, in Acts 10......you find God giving Peter the revelation, that Gentiles can be saved... and that is 10 yrs after Jesus is back in Heaven.
So, it took time before all the Apostles had the same understanding that Paul had.. and in Acts 15, that was resolved, for them all."

Huh????
Peter recieved the revelation of the Gentiles included in the gospel way ahead of Peter.
Acts 8.
3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.
4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.
5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.
6 And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.
7 For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed.
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost..
Huh???
Gentiles saved and the Apostles call Peter to lay hands on them????
While Paul was killing believers????
 
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He is currently King.
He will be king.
He will sit in David's throne.
He already has a kingdom.
The new Jerusalem will be established ( the kingdom)
He currently sits on a throne in heaven and has a kingdom.

You seem to not understand any of that.
The King was among them and they were completely oblivious to it.

Your modifications to the bible, have that concept as " he thought he came to establish a Jewish kingdom but failed"
Then your doctrine dictates " enter plan b...the cross"

Just appalling, how anyone can twist the testimony of Jesus.
It seemed to me you were saying that there would be no Davidic earthly kingdom at hand which Jesus and the twelve were sent to preach
sorry
 
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Peter preached salvation to the Gentiles before Paul even started his ministry.

Acts 2, is about 10 yrs before Acts 10.

so, that means that 10 Yrs, after Peter preaches to the Jews, in Jerusalem, during Pentecost....... you find Acts Chapter 10.

That is 10 Yrs, after Jesus is back in Heaven.

In Acts 10, God had to show Peter that Gentiles could be saved., as Peter didnt know it.

In Acts 15, Paul and all the apostles met, and from that point, all the Apostles understood Paul's Gospel, and why.
 

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There is more than one gospel in the Bible. It is imperative to comprehend not only to whom each gospel was given, but how they differ. It is also of the upmost importance to know which gospel is for our salvation unto eternal life.

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

The gospel was given to Abraham. A gospel is glad tidings, good news. The obligation of mankind is to believe what God said. Abraham believed that God would bless all the nations through him.

Genesis 15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

It is always and only by faith that God saves, by believing God. It is always and only by grace that God saves in doing for us what we are incapable of in and of ourselves.

The gospel was given to Israel in the wilderness.

Hebrews 4:1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

What gospel was the writer of Hebrews referring to?

Deuteronomy 1:8 Behold, I have set the land before you: go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them.

The gospel of entering into God's rest through belief in Hebrews 4 is not the same gospel given to Israel in the wilderness to possess the land. It can be seen from this comparison alone that there is more than just one gospel.

Jesus preached the gospel of the kingdom.

Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

The Davidic kingdom was promised to Israel, wherein, they would inherit an earthly kingdom and reign with Christ (Daniel 2:44 Revelation 20:4). Israel was to believe on the name of Jesus, that Jesus was the Son of God, the Messiah. Placing faith and trust in Jesus and his name would justify them unto eternal life (John 20:31). Obeying his commandments would physically save them to enter the kingdom (Matthew 5:20). Upon belief the kingdom would have been ushered in.

The Jews had to only believe on the name of Jesus to have eternal life.

[John 20:31 KJV] 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

[John 3:16, 18 KJV] 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ... 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

This differs from Paul saying that we receive eternal life by the grace of God.

[Titus 3:7 KJV] 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Christ began to speak of his death and resurrection, but the twelve apostles did not understand it at that time. If the twelve did not understand the cross, the death and resurrection, how then could they be preaching the same gospel as Paul?

[Luke 18:31-34 KJV] 31 Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. 32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 33 And they shall scourge [him], and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.

Christ commissioned the twelve to preach the kingdom of heaven, the gospel of the kingdom (Luke 9:2).

[Matthew 10:5-7 KJV] 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

This is the gospel Peter preached; the gospel of the circumcision (Galatians 2:7).

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Peter preached Jesus was the Son of God, the Christ. Peter preached the same baptism of John for the remission of sin, plus receiving the Holy Ghost to enter the kingdom.

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Peter preached that the resurrection of Christ would assure he would come and establish the kingdom on earth to believing Israel. Israel will be saved at the coming of Christ Jesus. The risen Christ will sit on the throne of David.

[Act 2:30 KJV] 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

God promised a new covenant to Israel in Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

God, by his Spirit, will enable Israel to be the blessing to the Gentiles that Israel was unable to fulfill. All the Gentile nations that will enter the kingdom along with believing Israel (Matthew 25:34) will learn of God through saved Israel.

Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

The gospel of the circumcision, preached by Peter and found in Galatians 2:7 is that Christ died and rose again to put in force the new covenant. By the new covenant, God will forgive Israel, and by his Spirit, enable Israel to obey his commandments and enter the kingdom to be a light to the Gentiles. Israel fell due to unbelief and rejection of this gospel; only a remnant believed, the little flock.

Paul was given the gospel of Christ. Israel was temporarily set aside, and Paul became the apostle to the Gentiles. Revealed was salvation and justification given freely to all by faith alone, in Christ alone. Both Paul and Peter preached to Jews and Gentiles. Paul was given revelation by Christ and a gospel in the dispensation of grace.

1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

This is Paul's gospel; not of his own invention but by revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ (Ephesians 3:3).

2 Timothy 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

Below is Paul's gospel; the complete, finished salvation provided by Christ Jesus freely given to all who believe. This is the gospel that saves us today.

[1Corinthians 15:1, 3-4 KJV] 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; ... 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Paul was given revelation of a mystery. Paul preached "my gospel".

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

The everlasting gospel will be preached during the tribulation.

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Clearly there is more than one gospel. Paul did not preach the gospel of the kingdom as Jesus and the twelve did. The gospel of the kingdom will be preached again in the tribulation.

The gospel of God is the progressive revelation of God's provision of salvation to mankind. It has always been by grace. It has always been by the blood of Christ, whereby God from the beginning could offer forgiveness to all. It has always been by faith, by believing God.
There is only one Gospel the Gospel of Jesus Christ the messiah, it is why he came. He asked us to repent from sin and told us the kingdom of heaven is to come. The main message is repentance and the coming Kingdom and he showed us the way to eternal life. What Jesus showed us is the way to eternal life.
 

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The main message is repentance

The Main message of the Gospel is that.... : "all have sinned, there is none righteous, no not one"..

So, that is the LAW and 10 Commandments... defining every human being..

Therefore, because we are all that ONE........How can We then.....be eternally reconciled To God?

Like this..

"""""While we were YET SINNERS... Christ died for us""""

So that by His Sacrifical Death on THE CROSS, all our sin can all be forgiven, and we can then be accepted by God, and reconciled to God, forever.

See, the issue is "SIN" and what to do about it, as we "all have sinned"..

A.) Jesus on the Cross.......

1.) = "God hath made JESUS.......>TO BE SIN">.....for us"..

2.) = "Jesus is the ONE TIME........ ETERNAL SACRIFICE.. for SIN">

See those 2?

God came down here as a man, = virgin born = wrapped in Human Flesh.... and died on the Cross, as Jesus, and offers This Eternal Sacrifice for us all, ... = so that our SIN can be forgiven... and that allows GOD to have us back into Himself.....as "born again Spiritually" by the Holy Spirit.

How to get that Salvation from God?

First you need to be a sinner.....and you qualified all your life.
Then, "all who trust in Jesus shall be saved"
"All who call on the Name of Jesus.......shall be saved"..

"SAVED" means.. forgiven all your sin, and given the new birth.. as "born... again".. by the Holy Spirit.

This recreates your Spirit man as a "new Creation"...in Christ"

Welcome to : SALVATION>

Its a Free "GIFT" From God.
Its JESUS on the Cross, as the Eternal Gift.

Jesus is SALVATION.
 

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There is only one Gospel the Gospel of Jesus Christ the messiah, it is why he came. He asked us to repent from sin and told us the kingdom of heaven is to come. The main message is repentance and the coming Kingdom and he showed us the way to eternal life. What Jesus showed us is the way to eternal life.
[Rom 16:25 KJV] 25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

Paul says it is his gospel which makes it unique
Paul says the gospel and the preaching of Christ was according to the mystery kept secret until he preached it
 

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[Rom 16:25 KJV] 25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

Yes.

Notice that Paul said its 'MY Gospel"... in your verse...

Paul said this 3x in the NT, and Peter never preached this in Acts 2.

All the Apostles preached "Paul's Gospel" after Acts 15.

We are to do the same.
 
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All the Apostles preached "Paul's Gospel" after Acts 15.
I dont know about that
I dont read hearing anything from Peter and the apostles after Acts 15
I dont see Paul's gospel in 1st and 2nd Peter either
The gospel of the kingdom will be preached again in the tribulation
[Mat 24:14 KJV] 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
 

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There is no verse in the NT that says that "Jesus was taught by the Holy Spirit".

Also, Paul told us that the Gospel that He preaches, .... he received it from "no Man".

In Acts 15, you find that the apostles met Paul, and from that time, they all had HIS Gospel..

Paul said of HIS Gospel, that is it "MY Gospel"... 3x in the NT.

This is why Paul said that if anyone preached any other Gospel this His..., then you become this one.

Galatians 1:8



That is not the issue.
The issue is timing.
In other words... when did an Apostle know Paul's Gospel..????? and obviously Peter didnt know it in Acts 2, as Paul was not yet called by Jesus into His Minstry as "the Apostle to the Gentiles".. to deliver "The Gospel of the Grace of God".

Also, in Acts 10......you find God giving Peter the revelation, that Gentiles can be saved... and that is 10 yrs after Jesus is back in Heaven.
So, it took time before all the Apostles had the same understanding that Paul had.. and in Acts 15, that was resolved, for them all.




Yes, and that is for today. = Gal 1:8
This ends when the Trib starts.

So, right now.. "in the time of the Gentiles".... when you hear or read that The Cross is only for some.. but not for the world.. as the Cult CALVINISTS teach, then they are teaching a FALSE Gospel that denies The Truth and rejects Paul's Gospel.



Of course......but, see, once again.... The Cross started a Transition from the OT... to the NT.....so, it took time before everything that had changed, doctrinally, was understood by all the Apostles.
Quote: "Also, in Acts 10......you find God giving Peter the revelation, that Gentiles can be saved... and that is 10 yrs after Jesus is back in Heaven.
So, it took time before all the Apostles had the same understanding that Paul had.. and in Acts 15, that was resolved, for them all."

Huh????
Peter recieved the revelation of the Gentiles included in the gospel way ahead of Paul
 

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Acts 2, is about 10 yrs before Acts 10.

so, that means that 10 Yrs, after Peter preaches to the Jews, in Jerusalem, during Pentecost....... you find Acts Chapter 10.

That is 10 Yrs, after Jesus is back in Heaven.

In Acts 10, God had to show Peter that Gentiles could be saved., as Peter didnt know it.

In Acts 15, Paul and all the apostles met, and from that point, all the Apostles understood Paul's Gospel, and why.
I already SHOWED you different

Thr bible is not your source????
 

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Yes.

Notice that Paul said its 'MY Gospel"... in your verse...

Paul said this 3x in the NT, and Peter never preached this in Acts 2.

All the Apostles preached "Paul's Gospel" after Acts 15.

We are to do the same.
Already showed you different.
Oh well, believe your teachers instead of God's word
 

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Quote: "Also, in Acts 10......you find God giving Peter the revelation, that Gentiles can be saved... and that is 10 yrs after Jesus is back in Heaven.
So, it took time before all the Apostles had the same understanding that Paul had.. and in Acts 15, that was resolved, for them all."

Huh????
Peter recieved the revelation of the Gentiles included in the gospel way ahead of Paul

Think before you post, next time.

Look now..

If God had to show Peter in ACTs 10, that Gentiles could be saved.......then its because , in Act 2........Peter didnt know it yet.

See, Acts 10 is later then Acts 2, by about a DECADE.
 

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Yes.

Notice that Paul said its 'MY Gospel"... in your verse...

Paul said this 3x in the NT, and Peter never preached this in Acts 2.

All the Apostles preached "Paul's Gospel" after Acts 15.

We are to do the same.
In your Pauline doctrine, the emphasis of it is that only Paul preached the gospel of grace. Then, hyperpauline teachers tell us that Peter preached the law, or "some kingdom silliness", and that Peter preached a different Gospel of works.
What the hyperpauines try to get you to learn, Is that Peter had no idea what so ever that Jesus died on a cross for the sins of the world, that Jesus was buried, and that Jesus rose again. They infer Peter had no clue that Jesus Ascended to heaven and that he was the sacrificial lamb that was slain for the whole world.
Then the hyperpaulines depend on their members to never read the book of Acts with any inclusion of what PROVES their deal is totally corrupt and outside of clear bible teaching.


That bizarre ridiculous mess is the fruit of that silly doctrine.
 
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Think before you post, next time.

Look now..

If God had to show Peter in ACTs 10, that Gentiles could be saved.......then its because , in Act 2........Peter didnt know it yet.

See, Acts 10 is later then Acts 2, by about a DECADE.
Most all the first church was Jewish.
Then peter was shown by God that the gentles were included in the gospel , in salvation, and included in the salvation plan just as Jesus declared in john three sixteen.

Ahem...way way way before Paul was shown the EXACT SAME THING., ( or even was saved)

What are you smoking?????
 

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Then peter was shown by God that the gentles were included in the gospel ,

Peter was shown this about the Gentiles, in a REVELATiON that God gave Peter in : Acts 10

In Acts 2:38, Peter was only preaching to Jews , and didnt have the Revelation yet.

Acts 10, is about 10 yrs after Acts 2.

In Acts 15, Paul met Peter, and the rest of the Apostles, and from then on.......all the Apostles preached : Paul's Gospel and so should you.

This is the result if you preach any other Gospel, other then Paul's.

Galatians 1:8
 

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Think before you post, next time.

Look now..

If God had to show Peter in ACTs 10, that Gentiles could be saved.......then its because , in Act 2........Peter didnt know it yet.

See, Acts 10 is later then Acts 2, by about a DECADE.
In your "race to see who received the revelation of the Gentiles included first", and the fact God gave it to both Peter and Paul, ...WHAT IS YOUR END GAME????
I have debated many, many hyperpaulines.
THEY ALL DESPISE that Peter received it first.

Me??? I could not care less about your need for Paul to be king of the gospel.
It is fruitless and pure division.
But it is also YET ANOTHER DOCTRINE OF OMISSION.
You have not been taught the verses I bring.
That is troublesome.
 
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