MORE THAN ONE BIBLE GOSPEL

[rebuilder 454]

Peter was shown this about the Gentiles, in a REVELATiON that God gave Peter in : Acts 10

In Acts 2:38, Peter was only preaching to Jews , and didnt have the Revelation yet.

Acts 10, is about 10 yrs after Acts 2.

In Acts 15, Paul met Peter, and the rest of the Apostles, and from then on.......all the Apostles preached : Paul's Gospel and so should you.

This is the result if you preach any other Gospel, other then Paul's.

Galatians 1:8

That is such a weird disqualifier that you would even try to Make some kind of pivotal point on that time frame.

I guess under your same theory. Paul would really be wiped out and disqualified.
So that Paul was actually killing christians while Peter was a powerful minister for Jesus Christ, does that also disqualify Paul?

 

[rebuilder 454]

Peter was shown this about the Gentiles, in a REVELATiON that God gave Peter in : Acts 10

In Acts 2:38, Peter was only preaching to Jews , and didnt have the Revelation yet.

Acts 10, is about 10 yrs after Acts 2.

In Acts 15, Paul met Peter, and the rest of the Apostles, and from then on.......all the Apostles preached : Paul's Gospel and so should you.

This is the result if you preach any other Gospel, other then Paul's.

Galatians 1:8

Lol
Peter and all the Apostles preached salvation through Jesus.
You have no point at all.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Peter was shown this about the Gentiles, in a REVELATiON that God gave Peter in : Acts 10

In Acts 2:38, Peter was only preaching to Jews , and didnt have the Revelation yet.

Acts 10, is about 10 yrs after Acts 2.

In Acts 15, Paul met Peter, and the rest of the Apostles, and from then on.......all the Apostles preached : Paul's Gospel and so should you.

This is the result if you preach any other Gospel, other then Paul's.

Galatians 1:8

Try and connect the dots.
You need something REAL to disqualify Peter.
( something no hyperpauline has EVER accomplished)

 

[LoveYeshua]

[Rom 16:25 KJV] 25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

Paul says it is his gospel which makes it unique
Paul says the gospel and the preaching of Christ was according to the mystery kept secret until he preached it

Jesus never was teaching in secret but always in the open;
John 18:20
"Jesus answered him, 'I spoke openly to the world. I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where the Jews always meet, and in secret I have said nothing.'"

Matthew 24:26
"Therefore if they say to you, 'Look, He is in the desert!' do not go out; or 'Look, He is in the inner rooms!' do not believe it."

In this context, Jesus is cautioning His disciples not to be misled by anyone claiming to be the Messiah or by false teachers who might appear in secret or secluded places. He stresses that His return will not be in secret, but will be visible to all.

Paul has no witnesses for these ""secret visits"" from Jesus it is his word only. Jesus had always the 12, and when teaching, hundreds even thousands of witnesses, Even GOD Himself withessed Jesus while being Baptized and said;

Matthew 3:17
"And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, 'This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.'"
Mark 1:11
"Then a voice came from heaven, 'You are My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.'"
Luke 3:22
"And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven which said, 'You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.'"

These verses describe the moment when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist in the Jordan River, and God the Father speaks from heaven, declaring Jesus to be His beloved Son. This event marks a key moment in Jesus' ministry and the affirmation of His divine identity.

witnessing in the bible is crucial, Jesus is the messiah, Jesus is one with GOD, His Gospel IS the gospel to follow and no one else.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Yes.

Notice that Paul said its 'MY Gospel"... in your verse...

Paul said this 3x in the NT, and Peter never preached this in Acts 2.

All the Apostles preached "Paul's Gospel" after Acts 15.

We are to do the same.

Absolutely FALSE again, where does it say this in scripture that all apostles preached Paul's gospel? show it to me.

we are To follow Christ and NO ONE ELSE ;

Jesus the True Shepherd (JOHN 10:1-17)​

10 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6 Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.

Jesus the Good Shepherd​

7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came [a]before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.


11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. 12 But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. 13 The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.

 

[Behold]

Absolutely FALSE again, where does it say this in scripture that all apostles preached Paul's gospel? show it to me.

Im not going to read your "cut and paste" as if you can't respond based on what you know, and need to run to other people's websites, and commentaries, to try to defend what you can't even understand, then you are not even in the discussion... @LoveYeshua.

Listen,

None of the Apostle's preached Paul's Gospel, until Acts 15.

And now that its 2000 yrs later.... and now that that we know that we are in the time of the gentiles, and we have Galatians 1:8 that tells us that any other Gospel, then Paul's is false, then that is why we only teach and preach, Paul's Gospel.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Im not going to read your "cut and paste" as if you can't respond based on what you know, and need to run to other people's websites, and commentaries, to try to defend what you can't even understand, then you are not even in the discussion... @LoveYeshua.

Listen,

None of the Apostle's preached Paul's Gospel, until Acts 15.

And now that its 2000 yrs later.... and now that that we know that we are in the time of the gentiles, and we have Galatians 1:8 that tells us that any other Gospel, then Paul's is false, then that is why we only teach and preach, Paul's Gospel.

Show me a verse that say the original 12 preached the gospel of Paul, None of them did, they preached what Jesus asked them to, which is this;

The Great Commission​

16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted.​

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18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go [c]therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” [d]Amen.​

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Yes the 10 commandments were part of what Jesus was teaching and explained in great detail and Magnified the Law( the 10 commandment that are also the covenant) ​

Paul preached HIS OWN GOSPEL you cannot deny this and you reject what I wrote because you know I speak the truth according to scripture.

There is only one gospel, one truth, it is the gospel that Jesus preached. If you want to remain in your sin and teach people things that are contrary to what GOD by not obeying the 10 commandments then you condemn yourself.

MATTHEW 7:22-23
22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

 

[LoveYeshua]

Im not going to read your "cut and paste" as if you can't respond based on what you know, and need to run to other people's websites, and commentaries, to try to defend what you can't even understand, then you are not even in the discussion... @LoveYeshua.

Listen,

None of the Apostle's preached Paul's Gospel, until Acts 15.

And now that its 2000 yrs later.... and now that that we know that we are in the time of the gentiles, and we have Galatians 1:8 that tells us that any other Gospel, then Paul's is false, then that is why we only teach and preach, Paul's Gospel.

Note that my cut and paste is from the bible ( JOHN 10) these are words Jesus spoke, it is what you refused to read. you do not belong to Christ and follow another but not Jesus the son of GOD who is the ONLY WAY TO ETERNAL LIFE.

REPENT before it is too late, time is short.

 

[Davy]

[Rom 16:25 KJV] 25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

Paul says it is his gospel which makes it unique
Paul says the gospel and the preaching of Christ was according to the mystery kept secret until he preached it

That's not really accurate, but is an assumption by those on the Dispensationalist Movement.


Apostle Peter revealed that God's Old Testament prophets first inquired about the Salvation that first given through them.

1 Peter 1:6-12
6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:

7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in Whom, though now ye see Him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

10 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
KJV

The learned Bible student can find The Gospel of Jesus Christ written in just about every Book of The Bible. In the Old Testament prophets, the Scripture witnesses were very strong, like Psalms 22 through David, and Isaiah 53.

They simply did not yet understand those details about Christ Jesus. It remained a type of 'mystery' until Jesus actually was born, crucified, and was raised from the dead, and seen by His disciples. However, many of those events were given first through God's Old Testament prophets.

For that reason, we who well recognize that Lord Jesus Christ brought The New Covenant through His Blood, that still does not mean The New Testament Books are disconnected from The Old Testament prophecies, because much of it was first prophesied in The Old Testament prophets, like Peter revealed above.

 

[Doug]

They simply did not yet understand those details about Christ Jesus. It remained a type of 'mystery' until Jesus actually was born, crucified, and was raised from the dead, and seen by His disciples. However, many of those events were given first through God's Old Testament prophets.

A type of mystery is not the mystery as stated in the Bible
That Jesus would die and be raised again was prophetic throughout the old testament
Paul taught Christ from the old testament law and prophets
What was not revealed in prophecy was that God would form the Body of Christ a new creature formed of Jew and Gentile seated in heavenly places and salvation was by grace without the law and without having to go through Israel

 

[rebuilder 454]

Jesus declared John 3:16 While paul was a little child.
. it was Jesus that said. You must be born again to enter the Kingdom. And that was while Paul was a young child.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Im not going to read your "cut and paste" as if you can't respond based on what you know, and need to run to other people's websites, and commentaries, to try to defend what you can't even understand, then you are not even in the discussion... @LoveYeshua.

Listen,

None of the Apostle's preached Paul's Gospel, until Acts 15.

And now that its 2000 yrs later.... and now that that we know that we are in the time of the gentiles, and we have Galatians 1:8 that tells us that any other Gospel, then Paul's is false, then that is why we only teach and preach, Paul's Gospel.

Ahem
"Paul's gospel" consisted of saved by grace, not by works.
Ahem...that is the gospel they ALL PREACHED.
THAT PAULINE HYPER PUT DOWN OF EVERYONE BUT PAUL IS PHONY.
EVEN JESUS IS A BUGGER MAN under that doctrine.

 

[rebuilder 454]

The bottom line is that Paul proclaimed that if anyone preached a different gospel, than the one that he proclaim, he pronounced a curse on them.
He even said it twice.
he declared it twice, that ifany one is preaching a different gospel, than the one that he preached, that They are a cursed. s

So what we have here is Paul cursing, Jesus, Peter, John, and James.
(Under that hyperpauline doctrine bologna)
Pretty hard to wiggle out of that.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Peter preaching the gospel in Act 2
Ahem...way before paul...years before Paul.
"21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved"

Saved by Jesus.
Not anything to do with works

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

i disagree, for there's only four Gospel according to the New Testament.

It was merely 'prophecy' prophesied in the Old Testament about the heathens, before the Gospel.

But how GOD will bless the Heathens, Abraham did not know nor the Israelites.

Abraham like others just received GOD's word in the Old Testament, and not at all the Gospel.

Only the born again by the Gospel and using the Gospel, can bring forth what have been prophesied in the Old, to 'light'.

Hebrews 1:
1. GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets.
2. Hath in these last days spoken unto us by HIS Son, whom HE hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also HE made the worlds:

John 1:
17. For the Law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

That is the four Gospel of grace and truth until to the book of Revelation in the New Testament

All the Old Testament believers had the gospel promise of Genesis 3:15 given to Satan, interestingly. They did have the gospel and hope of the coming of the Messiah. As the OT went on, they increased in that knowledge to be given it fully in Jesus, but they had it, according to Hebrews 11, enough to have true faith.

 

[Fred J]

All the Old Testament believers had the gospel promise of Genesis 3:15 given to Satan, interestingly. They did have the gospel and hope of the coming of the Messiah. As the OT went on, they increased in that knowledge to be given it fully in Jesus, but they had it, according to Hebrews 11, enough to have true faith.

'Gospel' is the good news 'teaching' or 'revelation' of Jesus Christ, about 'the Kingdom of GOD' and 'salvation'.

How can any one or you say it is in the Old Testament, when it is not?

If the OT Jews knew the Gospel then, they wouldn't have opposed and killed the Messiah Jesus.

They expected another Messiah and message, pictured in their carnal mind.

Apparently merely the unlearned and unstable who 'twist' and put a 'spin' on things that are not true.

Jews who were 'blind' then had to be 'born again' in order to 'see' the 'Kingdom of GOD'.

They had to be born of water and of the Holy Ghost in order to 'enter' the 'Kingdom of GOD'.

Believers were only saved by 'grace and through faith, the gift of GOD',

Not of themselves nor of their works, lest any man should boast.

In the Old Testament through the Prophets, GOD merely prophesied about a 'deliverer' to come for Israel.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[Fred J]

'Gospel' is the good news 'teaching' or 'revelation' of Jesus Christ, about 'the Kingdom of GOD' and 'salvation'.

How can any one or you say it is in the Old Testament, when it is not?

If the OT Jews knew the Gospel then, they wouldn't have opposed and killed the Messiah Jesus.

They expected another Messiah and message, pictured in their carnal mind.

Apparently merely the unlearned and unstable who 'twist' and put a 'spin' on things that are not true.

Jews who were 'blind' then had to be 'born again' in order to 'see' the 'Kingdom of GOD'.

They had to be born of water and of the Holy Ghost in order to 'enter' the 'Kingdom of GOD'.

Believers were only saved by 'grace and through faith, the gift of GOD',

Not of themselves nor of their works, lest any man should boast.

In the Old Testament through the Prophets, GOD merely prophesied about a 'deliverer' to come for Israel.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

For the record, Jews even claim Isaiah 53 is referring to 'Israel', and not 'Messiah Jesus'.

Every book in the Holy Bible has it's 'title', and only 4 books in the New Testament is 'titled', 'Gospel according to ...............'.

And what was prophesied in the Old Testament are the 'prophecy' of the true Messiah who will fulfill them.

Apparently Messiah Jesus fulfilled both, the 'Law', and the 'prophecies' of the Prophets in the Old Testament.



On the other hand, the Gospel in the New Testament is about repentance and being born again, first preached by John the Baptist and Messiah Jesus.

For the Kingdom of GOD is 'now at hand', and 'make a straight path for the Lord', who will baptize with Holy Ghost and fire.

Furthermore by Jesus, be baptized of water and of the Holy Ghost, and become disciple in the knowledge of the Kingdom of GOD.

Now where were these pertaining to the Gospel alone are 'preached' in the Old Testament??

Shalom in the name of Messiah Jesus

 

[Lambano]

 

[Fred J]

For the record, Jews even claim Isaiah 53 is referring to 'Israel', and not 'Messiah Jesus'.

Every book in the Holy Bible has it's 'title', and only 4 books in the New Testament is 'titled', 'Gospel according to ...............'.

And what was prophesied in the Old Testament are the 'prophecy' of the true Messiah who will fulfill them.

Apparently Messiah Jesus fulfilled both, the 'Law', and the 'prophecies' of the Prophets in the Old Testament.



On the other hand, the Gospel in the New Testament is about repentance and being born again, first preached by John the Baptist and Messiah Jesus.

For the Kingdom of GOD is 'now at hand', and 'make a straight path for the Lord', who will baptize with Holy Ghost and fire.

Furthermore by Jesus, be baptized of water and of the Holy Ghost, and become disciple in the knowledge of the Kingdom of GOD.

Now where were these pertaining to the Gospel alone are 'preached' in the Old Testament??

Shalom in the name of Messiah Jesus

John 1:
17. For the Law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

As 'grace and truth' is the 'Gospel', meaning, 'Good News'.

Matthew 5:
17. Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

Not only the Law came from Moses, but also the 'prophetic' sayings about the 'Messiah' or 'Deliverer' came from the Prophets.

Messiah Jesus fulfilled both, and even more, including bearing and taking away the sins of the world upon Himself.

At the same time incurring wounds, bruises and torments, finally having them all nailed on the Cross, saying, "It is accomplished."

Hebrews 1:
1. GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2. Hath in these last days spoke unto us by HIS Son, ............................................................

In the sayings of GOD in the Old Testament through the Prophets in 'context', and is written apparently in the Holy Bible.

That, within these texts itself, there lie the 'prophetic' content about the 'Messiah' here and there progressively from the Prophets.

And where the Jews are and were fully unaware themselves, that they refer to their Messiah Jesus, even from Moses.

Deuteronomy 18:
15. The LORD thy GOD will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto Him ye shall hearken;

Only the remnant of Jews saved by grace, especially Jesus' disciples, with the Holy Ghost in witnessing the Messiah Jesus.

They were able to 'add these contents' in relativeness and in assurance in fulfillment done by their Messiah Jesus.

Who on the other hand, came and gave the Gospel of grace and truth from GOD instead in these last days.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ.