MORE THAN ONE BIBLE GOSPEL

[Doug]

There is more than one gospel in the Bible. It is imperative to comprehend not only to whom each gospel was given, but how they differ. It is also of the upmost importance to know which gospel is for our salvation unto eternal life.

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

The gospel was given to Abraham. A gospel is glad tidings, good news. The obligation of mankind is to believe what God said. Abraham believed that God would bless all the nations through him.

Genesis 15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

It is always and only by faith that God saves, by believing God. It is always and only by grace that God saves in doing for us what we are incapable of in and of ourselves.

The gospel was given to Israel in the wilderness.

Hebrews 4:1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

What gospel was the writer of Hebrews referring to?

Deuteronomy 1:8 Behold, I have set the land before you: go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them.

The gospel of entering into God's rest through belief in Hebrews 4 is not the same gospel given to Israel in the wilderness to possess the land. It can be seen from this comparison alone that there is more than just one gospel.

Jesus preached the gospel of the kingdom.

Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

The Davidic kingdom was promised to Israel, wherein, they would inherit an earthly kingdom and reign with Christ (Daniel 2:44 Revelation 20:4). Israel was to believe on the name of Jesus, that Jesus was the Son of God, the Messiah. Placing faith and trust in Jesus and his name would justify them unto eternal life (John 20:31). Obeying his commandments would physically save them to enter the kingdom (Matthew 5:20). Upon belief the kingdom would have been ushered in.

The Jews had to only believe on the name of Jesus to have eternal life.

[John 20:31 KJV] 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

[John 3:16, 18 KJV] 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ... 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

This differs from Paul saying that we receive eternal life by the grace of God.

[Titus 3:7 KJV] 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Christ began to speak of his death and resurrection, but the twelve apostles did not understand it at that time. If the twelve did not understand the cross, the death and resurrection, how then could they be preaching the same gospel as Paul?

[Luke 18:31-34 KJV] 31 Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. 32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 33 And they shall scourge [him], and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.

Christ commissioned the twelve to preach the kingdom of heaven, the gospel of the kingdom (Luke 9:2).

[Matthew 10:5-7 KJV] 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

This is the gospel Peter preached; the gospel of the circumcision (Galatians 2:7).

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Peter preached Jesus was the Son of God, the Christ. Peter preached the same baptism of John for the remission of sin, plus receiving the Holy Ghost to enter the kingdom.

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Peter preached that the resurrection of Christ would assure he would come and establish the kingdom on earth to believing Israel. Israel will be saved at the coming of Christ Jesus. The risen Christ will sit on the throne of David.

[Act 2:30 KJV] 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

God promised a new covenant to Israel in Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

God, by his Spirit, will enable Israel to be the blessing to the Gentiles that Israel was unable to fulfill. All the Gentile nations that will enter the kingdom along with believing Israel (Matthew 25:34) will learn of God through saved Israel.

Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

The gospel of the circumcision, preached by Peter and found in Galatians 2:7 is that Christ died and rose again to put in force the new covenant. By the new covenant, God will forgive Israel, and by his Spirit, enable Israel to obey his commandments and enter the kingdom to be a light to the Gentiles. Israel fell due to unbelief and rejection of this gospel; only a remnant believed, the little flock.

Paul was given the gospel of Christ. Israel was temporarily set aside, and Paul became the apostle to the Gentiles. Revealed was salvation and justification given freely to all by faith alone, in Christ alone. Both Paul and Peter preached to Jews and Gentiles. Paul was given revelation by Christ and a gospel in the dispensation of grace.

1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

This is Paul's gospel; not of his own invention but by revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ (Ephesians 3:3).

2 Timothy 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

Below is Paul's gospel; the complete, finished salvation provided by Christ Jesus freely given to all who believe. This is the gospel that saves us today.

[1Corinthians 15:1, 3-4 KJV] 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; ... 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Paul was given revelation of a mystery. Paul preached "my gospel".

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

The everlasting gospel will be preached during the tribulation.

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Clearly there is more than one gospel. Paul did not preach the gospel of the kingdom as Jesus and the twelve did. The gospel of the kingdom will be preached again in the tribulation.

The gospel of God is the progressive revelation of God's provision of salvation to mankind. It has always been by grace. It has always been by the blood of Christ, whereby God from the beginning could offer forgiveness to all. It has always been by faith, by believing God.

 

[Davy]

Recall my post where you asked me what the whole loaf meant, and I replied about Jesus asking His disciples how many baskets of fragments they gathered up after His miracle of the loaves and fishes?

Well you above post is nothing but a huge BASKET OF FRAGMENTS added to God's Word from men's Hyper-Grace, or Hyper-Dispensationalist movement.

There is ONLY... ONE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, not two or more.

What Apostle Paul was talking about with his taking The Gospel to the Gentiles, and Peter taking The Gospel to the Jews, is about DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS OF THE ONE GOSPEL. It does NOT means two different gospels, which is an utterly stupid idea from men's doctrines.

That stupid idea came from influence of the FALSE Pre-tribulational Rapture theory.

The Pre-trib Rapture idea, a basket fragment created by 'men' and not from God, relies on the theory that the Church is raptured to Heaven PRIOR to the "great tribulation", while unbelieving Israel is left-behind to go through the tribulation. The Biblical Truth though is that no one goes anywhere until AFTER... the "great tribulation", because AFTER the trib is when Jesus showed His coming will be to gather His Church (Matthew 24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27).

And Jesus will gather ALL... His saints of His Church at His coming, both believing Gentiles AND believing Jews, together AS ONE BODY, on His way to the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem where Zechariah 14 reveals His feet will touch down at, and where He ascended to Heaven from per Acts 1. The idea that the Church stays in Heaven with Christ reigning from Heaven while Israel serves out the future Millennium on earth is a MYTH by men's false basket fragments ADDED to God's Word.

 

[Fred J]

There is more than one gospel in the Bible. It is imperative to comprehend not only to whom each gospel was given, but how they differ. It is also of the upmost importance to know which gospel is for our salvation unto eternal life.

i disagree, for there's only four Gospel according to the New Testament.

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

It was merely 'prophecy' prophesied in the Old Testament about the heathens, before the Gospel.

The gospel was given to Abraham. A gospel is glad tidings, good news. The obligation of mankind is to believe what God said. Abraham believed that God would bless all the nations through him.

But how GOD will bless the Heathens, Abraham did not know nor the Israelites.

Abraham like others just received GOD's word in the Old Testament, and not at all the Gospel.

Only the born again by the Gospel and using the Gospel, can bring forth what have been prophesied in the Old, to 'light'.

Hebrews 1:
1. GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets.
2. Hath in these last days spoken unto us by HIS Son, whom HE hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also HE made the worlds:

John 1:
17. For the Law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

That is the four Gospel of grace and truth until to the book of Revelation in the New Testament

 

[Doug]

Well you above post is nothing but a huge BASKET OF FRAGMENTS added to God's Word from men's Hyper-Grace, or Hyper-Dispensationalist movement.

I commented on Bible verses
I may be wrong on my comments and if so show me verse for my correction
How am I hyper dispensationalism? As far as I know they say that only Paul's prison epistles are for the body of Christ
I am a dispensationalist who tries to rightly divide, and everyone is to some degree, or we would all be building an ark

 

[Doug]

There is ONLY... ONE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, not two or more.

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Look at this verse where it says:
the GOSPEL was preached ...so this is a gospel
it does not say believe Christ died for our sins was buried and rose again but it says all nations be blessed
How can it be said there is only one gospel?

 

[Doug]

What Apostle Paul was talking about with his taking The Gospel to the Gentiles, and Peter taking The Gospel to the Jews, is about DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS OF THE ONE GOSPEL. It does NOT means two different gospels, which is an utterly stupid idea from men's doctrines.

[Gal 2:7 KJV] 7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as [the gospel] of the circumcision [was] unto Peter;

This verse says of the uncircumcision and of the circumcision in the KJV not to
the word of identifies the gospel preached
alot of the Bible versions say to

 

[Doug]

The Pre-trib Rapture idea, a basket fragment created by 'men' and not from God, relies on the theory that the Church is raptured to Heaven PRIOR to the "great tribulation", while unbelieving Israel is left-behind to go through the tribulation. The Biblical Truth though is that no one goes anywhere until AFTER... the "great tribulation", because AFTER the trib is when Jesus showed His coming will be to gather His Church (Matthew 24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27).

There is some substation in scripture to uphold pre trib

[Mat 3:7 KJV] 7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

John warned of the wrath to come upon Israel

[1Th 1:10 KJV] 10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, [even] Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

[1Th 5:9 KJV] 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

[Rev 6:16-17 KJV] 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

The tribulation is the wrath of God which we will escape as i understand scripture

You cited Matthew and Mark
[Mat 24:31 KJV] 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

[Mar 13:27 KJV] 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Believing Israel is the elect in both

 

[Doug]

disagree, for there's only four Gospel according to the New Testament.

I assume you mean Matthew Mark Luke and John
If so they preached the gospel of the kingdom and not the death burial and resurrection of Christ as Paul does

[Matthew 10:5-7 KJV] 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

The twelve disciples preached the coming earthly kingdom from heaven

 

[Doug]

t was merely 'prophecy' prophesied in the Old Testament about the heathens, before the Gospel.

In regard to Galatians 3:8 Yes it was but the point is God called what He said to Abraham was a gospel....it dictates that there is more than one gospel

 

[Doug]

It was merely 'prophecy' prophesied in the Old Testament about the heathens, before the Gospel.

It just came to me how you are reading Gal 3:8
before the gospel does not mean before Paul's gospel it means before the event was promised or beforehand

 

[Doug]

But how GOD will bless the Heathens, Abraham did not know nor the Israelites.

[Isa 42:6 KJV] 6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

Abraham may not have known but it was revealed to Israel by the prophets

 

[Fred J]

I assume you mean Matthew Mark Luke and John
If so they preached the gospel of the kingdom and not the death burial and resurrection of Christ as Paul does

[Matthew 10:5-7 KJV] 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

The twelve disciples preached the coming earthly kingdom from heaven

???

Isn't in the Gospel according to Mathew n John is stated the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ?

And that's what they've the firsthand eye witnesses, been orally preaching, besides discipling about the Kingdom of GOD as well to all nation.

Even before Paul and even before their accounts of it all have been written down.

And evidence of it all is in the New Testament of the Holy Bible, and am witnessing as well the truth.

For the record, Paul a man not a disciple of Jesus, but later an 'instrument' of His.

As of one born out of due time, acclaimed himself in 1 Corinthians 15:8.

1 Corinthians 15:
4. And that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5. And that He was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6. After that, He was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7. After that, He was seen of James; then of all the Apostles.
8. And last of all He was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ.

 

[Fred J]

In regard to Galatians 3:8 Yes it was but the point is God called what He said to Abraham was a gospel....it dictates that there is more than one gospel

The scripture read, ................, 'preached before the Gospel' .......................................

What was 'preached' to Abraham was the 'promise', not the Gospel.

The Gospel of grace and truth 'preached' in these last days is about the 'salvation' for Jews and Gentiles.

Can you give us a scripture from the Old Testament, that GOD 'preached' to Abraham, GOD would justify heathen through faith?

GOD 'preached' the 'promise' to Abraham, that he and Sarah would be the father and mother of all nation, Jews and Gentiles.

Thank you

 

[Fred J]

[Isa 42:6 KJV] 6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

For a 'light' of the Gentiles, if i were a Jew then, as an Israelite under the Law of Moses, think am a 'light' to the Gentiles.

Abraham may not have known but it was revealed to Israel by the prophets

Neither Abraham nor the Prophets knew, they even have not seen nor perceive, but in faith 'preach' the Word of GOD.

Only these 'preaching' was brought to 'fulfillment' by the 'Messiah' in these last days.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[Doug]

???

Isn't in the Gospel according to Mathew n John is stated the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ?

And that's what they've the firsthand eye witnesses, been orally preaching, besides discipling about the Kingdom of GOD as well to all nation.

Even before Paul and even before their accounts of it all have been written down.

And evidence of it all is in the New Testament of the Holy Bible, and am witnessing as well the truth.

For the record, Paul a man not a disciple of Jesus, but later an 'instrument' of His.

As of one born out of due time, acclaimed himself in 1 Corinthians 15:8.

1 Corinthians 15:
4. And that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5. And that He was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6. After that, He was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7. After that, He was seen of James; then of all the Apostles.
8. And last of all He was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ.

First off let me say I see you cited 1 Cor 15 as being our gospel and so we have fellowship.

 

[Behold]

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

This isn't a Gospel.
This is Peter condemning the Jews for a crime.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

This is Peter sort of redefining John The Baptist's Old covenant Water Baptism for Jews, .. by adding "In the name of Jesus".... into it.
This of course isn't Paul's Gospel, but at that time, its all Peter understood.
Later in Acts 15..., Paul taught all the Apostles "the Gospel of the Grace of God", and this is the Gospel that We are to preach and teach.

 

[Doug]

Isn't in the Gospel according to Mathew n John is stated the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ?

Yes indeed the four gospels relay his death burial and resurrection. That Christ would die and rise again was in prophecy and was not a mystery hidden in God.
Jesus spoke to the disciples of it
[Luk 18:33 KJV] 33 And they shall scourge [him], and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.
Found in old testament
[Isa 53:12 KJV] 12 Therefore will I divide him [a portion] with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Paul's gospel that we are saved by believing he died for our sins was buried and rose for our justification was not preached before the cross or even after by the disciples.

[Act 2:30 KJV] 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Peter preached Christ's resurrection for the believing remnant of Israel to be assured that Christ was risen and would come back to establish their kingdom.

[Heb 9:15, 22 KJV] 15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions [that were] under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. ... 22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

According to Hebrews Christ did not die for our sins but only for the sins of Israel committed under the first testament.
But now we know that revealed to Paul by Christ our sins were forgiven by his shed blood.

 

[Doug]

And that's what they've the firsthand eye witnesses, been orally preaching, besides discipling about the Kingdom of GOD as well to all nation.

If I am right you are saying they preached the same gospel as 1 Cor 15 and also the kingdom gospel.....good point which is new to my hearing!
The problem is when Christ told them he would die and rise again they did not understand it and it was hidden from them thus impossible to preach it
[Luk 9:45 KJV] 45 But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying.
[Mar 9:31-32 KJV] 31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day. 32 But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him.

 

[Doug]

For the record, Paul a man not a disciple of Jesus, but later an 'instrument' of His.

As of one born out of due time, acclaimed himself in 1 Corinthians 15:8.

Right Paul persecuted the church (the believing remnant that believed on the name of Christ and were baptized to enter the kingdom) but was saved to be an apostle to the Gentiles....our apostle

 

[Doug]

The scripture read, ................, 'preached before the Gospel' .......................................

What was 'preached' to Abraham was the 'promise', not the Gospel.

[Gal 3:8 KJV] 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed.

This verse is saying that before it was fulfilled that God would justify the heathen through faith God preached the gospel unto Abraham. God said it was gospel not just promise although it could be said that what God promises is gospel.