JOHN 14:12 WHATSOEVER YOU ASK

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Jack

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Look at what Jeremiah says about the new covenant..........it is not for christians......its for Israel

[Jer 31:31 KJV] 31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Well I feel VERY sorry for you that you don't have a New Covenant! That means you don't have a sacrifice for your sins!
 

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Well I feel VERY sorry for you that you don't have a New Covenant! That means you don't have a sacrifice for your sins!
Not being under any covenant does negate Christ's sacrifice..........if you want to be under the new covenant then you have to do the whole law
 

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Not being under any covenant does negate Christ's sacrifice..........
It sure does for those with no Covenant!
if you want to be under the new covenant then you have to do the whole law
Why would we have to obey the Old Covenant if we have the New Covenant? lol

Hebrews 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.
 

Jack

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where is the cross in John3:16.....if its not there that reflects saying I like it irregardless
You have no Covenant. You have no sacrifice for your sins!

Matthew 26:28
28 For this is My blood of the New Covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
 

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Why would we have to obey the Old Covenant if we have the New Covenant? lol
The new covenant empowers obedience to the law.......................[Jer 31:33 KJV] 33 But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people......................[Eze 36:27 KJV] 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do [them]....
 

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The new covenant empowers obedience to the law.......................[Jer 31:33 KJV] 33 But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people......................[Eze 36:27 KJV] 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do [them]....
Christians are not under the Law, PERIOD!
 

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You have no Covenant. You have no sacrifice for your sins!

Matthew 26:28
28 For this is My blood of the New Covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
The many in Matthew above was Israel.....Jesus shed his blood only for the iniquity of Israel under the old testament..............[Heb 9:15 KJV] 15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions [that were] under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.........it was revealed to Paul that his blood was applied to us
 

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The many in Matthew above was Israel.....Jesus shed his blood only for the iniquity of Israel under the old testament..............[Heb 9:15 KJV] 15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions [that were] under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.........it was revealed to Paul that his blood was applied to us
But YOU don't have a Covenant! You have no sacrifice for your sins!
 

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your right but if you want to be under the new covenant you are puting yourself under the law
You can't be serious.

John 1:17
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
 

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right and thats why the new covenant ........Israel can keep the law in the milletmeal kingdom on earth
right and thats why the new covenant ........Israel can keep the law in the milletmeal kingdom on earth
You're either under the Law or the New Covenant. Which is it? Can't be both!
 

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You can't be serious.

John 1:17
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
read the new covenant verses........what do they say..........keeping the law
Paul revealed we arent under the law and he revealed the blood of the new testament was for us.....the term new testament and new covenant are related but the new covenant is found in Jeremiah 31 and it brings Israel into the land, cleanses them and causes them to keep the law
 

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read the new covenant verses........what do they say..........keeping the law
Paul revealed we arent under the law and he revealed the blood of the new testament was for us.....the term new testament and new covenant are related but the new covenant is found in Jeremiah 31 and it brings Israel into the land, cleanses them and causes them to keep the law
"You're either under the Law or the New Covenant. Which is it? Can't be both!"