1 John 5:5 (NKJV)
5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
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5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
I have Jesus, the Son of God. You do not. He's all I need.that's all you have?........
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
GINOLJC, too all,
are you sure? ........... (smile).
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
Jesus is not the Ordinal First. Jesus is the Son of God and if he is the Son of God, then his God and his Father came first.first thanks for the reply, second, this is your mistake, listen, Malachi 2:10 "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?"
so ONE God created us right... right, listen, Isaiah 45:11 "Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me."
Isaiah 45:12 "I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded."
Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:"
so Gregory, it was the LORD who A. Made all things, (CREATOR), and B. it is the LORD who is the Father of us all..... so your statement, (most of them), fails, as everyone of them, concering the Godhead. so Jesus is either the Father, (which he is, the Ordinal First), or the bible lied, GOD FORBID, which means ....... you and your statement lied. .......YIKES!.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
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This God the Father gave Jesus the power and authority to create all things, which he did as the Lord God in the Genesis 2. So yes, in this respect Jesus is our Father. But there is one that is greater than he, and that is God the Father, Jesus even said this:
John 10:29 King James Version (KJV)
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
So the Father gave Jesus those who would believe. The Father also many years before Jesus came to earth gave Jesus the power and authority to create. The scriptures are correct.
I just wanted to remind you, I am still waiting for your response to my 3 *'s in post 58 of the thread,first thanks for the reply, second, this is your mistake, listen, Malachi 2:10 "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?"
so ONE God created us right... right, listen, Isaiah 45:11 "Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me."
Isaiah 45:12 "I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded."
Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:"
so Gregory, it was the LORD who A. Made all things, (CREATOR), and B. it is the LORD who is the Father of us all..... so your statement, (most of them), fails, as everyone of them, concering the Godhead. so Jesus is either the Father, (which he is, the Ordinal First), or the bible lied, GOD FORBID, which means ....... you and your statement lied. .......
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
Did God create Adam after the 1st week of Creation.
I am awaiting your response. Thank you.
ok then G money, who is the the First and the Last? my God the same one person... see how ignorant your statement is...
ERROR, the Lord Jesus said, he, he, he, made them male and female.... and it was HIM who made all things... see again how ignorant your statement are?
I tell you it gets worest, and worest... Jesus is the Father, the Ordinal First. only one scripture for you... 2 Timothy 3:7
this is just unbelievable, if I didn't see it with my own eyes, (some of these posts), I would have told anyone this is not so, well I cannot.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
Jesus is the 'first and the last' of God the Father. God the Father is the First Ordinal. Jesus proceeded from God the Father. Jesus is God the Father's "first and last". See how perfectly that works.
That is why Jesus can say to Mary, I go to MY God, and MY Father. (John 20:17) IOW, "the first and the last" is going to his God and his Father, who is God the Father, the First Ordinal.
Error, God the Father, the First Ordinal said, Let "US, US, US" make man in "OUR, OUR, OUR" image, after "OUR, OUR, OUR" likeness. Then God the Father, the First Ordinal gave Jesus the power and authority to do the creation, and "HE, HE, HE" did it.
It just gets worse, and worse for you doesn't it.
OK, here is the whole post #58, but I was really only interested in your response to the 3 *'s that are in parenthesis and start with "Did you notice....." About the middle of the post. Thank you.
101G says:
Genesis 1:26 (BTW the 6th day of creation) that God created Mankind.
It says in Genesis 1:26 that God said, Let "us" make "man" in "our" image, after our likeness.
It says in Genesis 1:27 that God created "man"...
Who has erred? Not me. Nowhere does it say in Genesis 1:26 or 27 that God created Mankind.
No where in the scriptures of chapter 1 or 2 does it say that God formed the one and First man on day 3.
You come to that conclusion from chapter 2:5-7, where in 5 it says no plants yet, and then 7 that the Lord God formed "man" out of the dust of the ground..... and then in 8 it talks of plants again. From this you say that "man" was created in day 3, and "mankind" was created in day 6. I believe that assumption is erroneous, and the "man" in the first chapter is the same as "man" in the second chapter, and "man" was created in day 6 as the scriptures say clearly.
*( Did you notice that God in chapter 1 has been replaced by the Lord God in chapter 2? I believe God in the first chapter is referring to God the Father, and the Lord God in the secod chapter is referring to his Son, Jesus Christ.)
*(Did you also notice that between chapters 1 and 2, there are 3 verbs used to describe how man was brought forth. 1) made, 2) created, 3) formed.) Which one is it?
*(Did you notice in verse 5 of chapter 2, no plants on earth yet, no rain on earth yet, no man on earth yet, and this is after the creation of chapter 1. What is that all about?)
Now lets really compare chapters 1 and 2. They are not even close in what was created in chapter 1 and the details given in chapter 2. The only detail added was how the Lord God formed Adam and a description of the garden area and the forming of Eve. The plants were given no more detail, and the animals were not given any more detail, except that they were brought before Adam to be named.
No more details about day 1 - light and darkness.
No more details about day 2 - the firmament (heaven)
No more details about day 3 - dry land and seas and plants
No more details about day 4 - son moon and starts
No more details about day 5 - animals in oceans
Some more details about day 6 - animals named and Adam formed and garden area described and Eve formed.
So is chapter 2 really a chapter that details chapter 1. Not so much.
A lot of information, break up your response so one response is not too long. Should have done this myself.
I just need to ask you ONE question then, so the Lord JESUS is the "LORD", all caps. answer that, then you will see your error, looking to hear that answer, ........ Cain't wait to hear that answer...
YIKES!.PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
Yeah I'm sure. You can't even confess that Jesus is the Son of God!
1 John 4:15 (NKJV)
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
ERROR on YOU. LISTEN, Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
NEXT VERSE,
Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
HERE MAN IS
MAN: H120 אָדָם 'adam (aw-dawm') n-m.
ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.).
[from H119]
KJV: X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person.
BINGO. there it is MANKIND, (Male and Female), do you understand NOW? ... so you're reproved there.
I just cain't believe the lack of Knowledge I'm witness here. READ, and you will see when the grass and the plants was made, and understand what these chapter are saying, listen,
Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,"
Genesis 2:5 "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."
Genesis 2:6 "But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground."
Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
before, before, before, the grass grew, before, the herbs, before the plants, God formes man, and the Grass grew, on Day 3, as the herbs, as the plants. Genesis 1:11 "And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so."
Genesis 1:12 "And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good."
Genesis 1:13 "And the evening and the morning were the third day."
MAN was formes before this... BINGO.
ERROR, Jesus has created now, he's LORD....
YIKES!.man oh man, basic bible study is in order. I just cain't believe this.... first time I can see it, but after you been alerted to the truth and you still don't take any effort to checkout the truth that was brought to one's attention, and still staying in darkness. well the bible is true, John 3:19 "And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
Revelation 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:"
the revealing, ONE person, God here is,
G2316 θεός theos (the-os') n.
1. (properly, in Greek) a god or deity. a supernatural, powerful entity (real or imagined).
2. (by Hebraism, especially with G3588) God, the Supreme Being, the Creator, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Yahweh by name.
3. (figuratively) a supreme magistrate (in the land).
[of uncertain affinity]
KJV: X exceeding, God, god(-ly, -ward)
but is not Jesus God, who is Son? yes, Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.".. here the definite article is use of the Son as God.. but is not Jesus the First and the Last? yes, so it this two distinct person in Revelation 1:1?........ NO, only ONE PERSON, who is Glorified in "Spirit", meaning the Holy Spirit. so Revelation is the REVEALING of "JESUS" as LORD, and "Lord", the First and the Last, the ONE TRUE and LIVING GOD. and here's the proof, again. to each Letter to the 7 churches chapter 2 & 3, it's the Lord Jesus who is addressing all of them. but the revealing answer is how each letter end,"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches". YES, JESUS is the Holy Spirit, the Ordinal First and the Ordinal Last, GLORIFIED in the NEW BODY.
there are the three so called person who is only ONE PERSON, "shared", or "Diversified" in flesh. A. the Father, the "LORD", JESUS, Genesis 1:1. B. the Son, the Lord, Jesus John 1:1., and the Holy Spirit, JESUS, Revelation 1:1. the NEW MAN, God with us.
so we have the Father, the First who is "ALSO" the Last, who is .... in GLORIFICATION, is JESUS the Holy Spirit/The Holy Ghost.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
the revealing, ONE person, God here is,
G2316 θεός theos (the-os') n.
1. (properly, in Greek) a god or deity. a supernatural, powerful entity (real or imagined).
2. (by Hebraism, especially with G3588) God, the Supreme Being, the Creator, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Yahweh by name.
3. (figuratively) a supreme magistrate (in the land).
[of uncertain affinity]
KJV: X exceeding, God, god(-ly, -ward)
but is not Jesus God, who is Son? yes, Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.".. here the definite article is use of the Son as God.. but is not Jesus the First and the Last? yes, so it this two distinct person in Revelation 1:1?........ NO, only ONE PERSON, who is Glorified in "Spirit", meaning the Holy Spirit. so Revelation is the REVEALING of "JESUS" as LORD, and "Lord", the First and the Last, the ONE TRUE and LIVING GOD. and here's the proof, again. to each Letter to the 7 churches chapter 2 & 3, it's the Lord Jesus who is addressing all of them. but the revealing answer is how each letter end,"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches". YES, JESUS is the Holy Spirit, the Ordinal First and the Ordinal Last, GLORIFIED in the NEW BODY.
there are the three so called person who is only ONE PERSON, "shared", or "Diversified" in flesh. A. the Father, the "LORD", JESUS, Genesis 1:1. B. the Son, the Lord, Jesus John 1:1., and the Holy Spirit, JESUS, Revelation 1:1. the NEW MAN, God with us.
so we have the Father, the First who is "ALSO" the Last, who is .... in GLORIFICATION, is JESUS the Holy Spirit/The Holy Ghost.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
first thanks for the reply, second, can a fish swim? .....
YIKES. only one scripture needed. 1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."WHO ONLY ... has immortality? so where is your other two.....
... thought so.but you keep on reading, and LEARN, the TRUE and LIVING GOD. "JESUS".
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
As usual your smoke screen to hide the FACT that you deny Jesus is the Son of God, and "God the Father" as the Bible plainly states!first thanks for the reply, second, can a fish swim? .....
WHO ONLY ... has immortality? so where is your other two.....
but you keep on reading, and LEARN, the TRUE and LIVING GOD. "JESUS".
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
Acts 9:20 (NKJV)
20 Immediately he preached the Christ in the synagogues, that He is the Son of God.
so we can take this as you cannot answer, remember.... 1 Thessalonians 5:21.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
My Jesus is Jesus of the Bible, the Son of God. You have a different Jesus.
1 John 5:5 (NKJV)
5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
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