Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

[Patrick1966]

That has been the case repeatedly including when we had heretics on here denying the deity of Christ awhile back. Premils didn't say a peep about it because it was other Premils who had that heretical belief. They make their belief in Premil more important than any other doctrine, which is disturbing. It's to the point that they don't care what else a person believes as long as they believe in Premil. That's how it comes across, at least.

I have to confess that I don't know what to believe regarding "the millenium".

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Or, for that matter, promoting the false notion of a spiritual "resurrection" from a "spiritual grave"?

Was my question too hard for you? Are you okay with someone promoting universal salvation on this forum? If not, then what difference does it make if someone copies and pastes something while refuting that doctrine?

 

[Patrick1966]

The ECT crowd repeatedly demonstrates their rejection of God's word. They have been deceived by Satan and believe the demonic doctrine that God tortures people forever. Amazing.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I have to confess that I don't know what to believe regarding "the millenium".

Yes, I have seen you indicate that before. And it seems that you are trying to study the scriptures to determine what to believe about that. I suggest you do the same regarding salvation. Scripture never teaches that all people will eventually be saved. It teaches that all people are offered salvation and given the opportunity to be saved, but people are required to repent and believe. If someone doesn't do that and never does until they die then they are not saved and never will be.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The ECT crowd repeatedly demonstrates their rejection of God's word. They have been deceived by Satan and believe the demonic doctrine that God tortures people forever. Amazing.

Who are "the ECT crowd"? Regardless, you are not one to talk about others being deceived when you have been deceived by the demonic universal salvation doctrine.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The teachings are very clear. I'm not "twisting" anything. They say what they say. You cannot admit that your understanding is mistaken because you are full of yourself and your ego, pride, and vanity won't permit you to become detached from your misunderstanding. On top of that, you accuse me of being a wicked heretic when it is YOU that is teaching a false doctrine and smearing God's good name.

How are you promoting "God's good name" by suggesting that He will inexplicably let all of those who have rejected Him (while refusing to repent up until the day they died) off the hook at some point? You apparently think that He commands all people everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30) for no real reason because you think He will eventually save all people whether they have repented of their sins or not.

 

[Patrick1966]

How are you promoting "God's good name" by suggesting that He will inexplicably let all of those who have rejected Him (while refusing to repent up until the day they died) off the hook at some point? You apparently think that He commands all people everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30) for no real reason because you think He will eventually save all people whether they have repented of their sins or not.

God is great. God is good. He will permit NONE to be lost. The only reason that people reject God is because they do not know God. God will open their eyes and then they will race to God.

 

[Patrick1966]

How are you promoting "God's good name" by suggesting that He will inexplicably let all of those who have rejected Him (while refusing to repent up until the day they died) off the hook at some point? You apparently think that He commands all people everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30) for no real reason because you think He will eventually save all people whether they have repented of their sins or not.

Do you believe that God loves all people?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

God is great. God is good. He will permit NONE to be lost.

You are revealing here that you do not know who God is. Part of what makes Him great is His holiness and His unwillingness to tolerate sin. He commands all people everywhere to repent of their sin (Acts 17:30) because He does not forgive sins if people do not acknowledge them and indicate that they are sorry for them. But, your false doctrine says that it doesn't matter if someone repents of their sin or not and He will save them anyway even if they don't. That is not taught anywhere in scripture.

The only reason that people reject God is because they do not know God. God will open their eyes and then they will race to God.

Scripture teaches that people are required to repent and have faith in order to be saved. But, you are denying that and saying that God will save people whether they repent and believe or not. That is heresy.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Do you believe that God loves all people?

Of course I do. That is why He graciously offers eternal life to all people by way of the sacrifice of His Son. But, He requires them to repent and believe in order to be saved. That is clearly taught in scripture. Once someone dies, it's too late to do that. But, you deny that.

 

[Patrick1966]

Who are "the ECT crowd"? Regardless, you are not one to talk about others being deceived when you have been deceived by the demonic universal salvation doctrine.

Eternal conscious torment

 

[Patrick1966]

Once someone dies, it's too late to do that

Verse?

 

[Patrick1966]

He does not forgive sins if people do not acknowledge them and indicate that they are sorry for them.

And so he tortures them for all eternity?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Verse?

What, a verse which states that people are not given the opportunity to repent and be saved after they die?

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Once a person dies their fate is sealed. They will give an account of themselves on judgment day and then will either inherit the kingdom of God or be cast into the lake of fire. NOWHERE does it teach that those who are cast into the lake of fire are given the opportunity to be saved after that. The onus is on you to show scripture which teaches that, if you can. I'm sure you can't.


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[Spiritual Israelite]

And so he tortures them for all eternity?

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or perhaps a memory problem? I told you already more than once that my understanding of torment is not torture, but rather refers to being in mental torment because of regretting that they did not repent and believe when they had the chance (before they died) and therefore missed out on the eternal bliss in God's presence that they could have had.

 

[Patrick1966]

Once a person dies their fate is sealed.

The Bible doesn't say that.

 

[Patrick1966]

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or perhaps a memory problem? I told you already more than once that my understanding of torment is not torture, but rather refers to being in mental torment because of regretting that they did not repent and believe when they had the chance (before they died) and therefore missed out on the eternal bliss in God's presence that they could have had.

Insults as usual.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The Bible doesn't say that.

Show me where it says otherwise. Your opinion without scriptural support for it means nothing to me.

 

[Truth7t7]

How are you promoting "God's good name" by suggesting that He will inexplicably let all of those who have rejected Him (while refusing to repent up until the day they died) off the hook at some point? You apparently think that He commands all people everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30) for no real reason because you think He will eventually save all people whether they have repented of their sins or not.

To think Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Jeffrey Dahmer, will be part of the false claim in Universal Salvation for all?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Insults as usual.

Would you not be frustrated if I asked you a question that doesn't even apply to what you told me you believe multiple times? I think you would be.