Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

[WPM]

I disagree.

Please compare the following two passages.

Revelation 12:6-8 Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she has a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war, and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven.​

Heaven is a realm where everything is timeless and eternal, a sanctuary for divine beings and everlasting truths. In this vivid portrayal, John illustrates the moment when Michael triumphs over the Dragon, a fearsome embodiment of chaos and evil. Following this epic confrontation, a significant shift occurs: the Dragon is no longer granted existence within the celestial kingdom. Essentially, its essence is stripped of eternity, effectively banishing it from the sacred space of heaven.

Now Satan is temporal and not eternal, which is why he has a short time left.

Revelation 12:12 For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.”​

The woman who fled into the wilderness was Israel, who went into exile after the Jewish/Roman wars of 70 AD. According to John, at that time, Michael defeated the dragon and removed it from the heavenly realms. So he is now roaming the Earth today, knowing that he has only a short time.

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

I see your carefully left out this first. If it gets the time that it happened.

Who then is the “man child” who “was to rule all nations with a rod of iron,” and “was caught up unto God, and to his throne”?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

He came the first time into this corrupt world, and came back here when he resurrected even. Surely he comes back to this same world at the second coming, literally contained within the very wording.

Amill thinks Jesus rules over this corrupt world right now but clearly the world is ruled by satan which is why the world is so corrupt.




Yes, but not until the Millennium, the little season rebellion, the casting of satan into the LOF and the GWTJ of the unsaved takes place. Only then will the NHNE come. Neither satan nor his angels nor the unsaved will exist within or upon the new Earth.

Jesus said that this world is full of deceptions and delusions ! in that he is pointing out the reality of what we are up against regarding Sin !

When Christ Jesus comes back ? so when Our Lord and Saviour comes back ? what does that mean ? well He is Emmanuel ? God with us !
So the God who is with us is the one who we know is our Lord and Saviour !
That means only the truly Born again Saved are His People in fact ! and that were it's all at in fact !
But at the Second coming all who survive the Hellfire that comes before hand will be Saved !

Why are they Saved ? well the Deceptions and delusions will be burnt up in fact ! their is nothing left to Tempt anyone, all who are alive will have to work together in fact !

Anyone who was Saved going right back to the first Jews 2000 years ago to befor the Hellfire or even during the Hellfire that die or live will be Saved rergardless ! because they are Saved in fact ! It's ones Soul that is Saved in fact !

If one is Saved it's because one knows and abides in Christ Jesus in fact ! and no one can snatch such a one out of his hand in fact !

Some people will survive the Hellfire ! the Saved who live are just as they were in fact ! and the living who were not Saved have nothing but to be Saved ! for their is only one way up ! because eveyone will be at rock bottom.

Jesus does not come as a person ! he come as the Holy Spirit in fact ! why is that ? well Jesus when he came as a man was not knowen ? he was only knew when he went to Heaven in fact ! It was only then that the scales from their eyes came off ! then with eyes they could see ! the Holy Spirit gave that to them in fact !

So how does anyone come to see Christ Jesus ? It's only through the Holy Spirit in fact !

Jesus deciples had only a % of faith in Jesus the man ! They only knew after for a fact that he was the Christ Jesus ! but the Jews etc who did not get it, was because they had not faith at all, for they were only Religious Carnal dupes ! but in the second coming all will burnt up ! so everyone will be on flat on their arse. The ego trips etc will not work !

If one is Saved one would not wish for the Hellfire on anyone !
I know religious who want the Helfire ! because they believe that They will be Taken up ? So they will not go through the Hellfire, well they will go through the Hellfire regardless in fact ! They will not be raptured up for they are not with Christ Jesus because they do not do his will in fact !

Saved Christians do not want people to be going through the Hellfire in fact ! nor does Christ Jesus !
It's the Satanist who want Hellfire in fact ! They are set to go to Hell anyway !
Most people are only Lost, they are not Satanist but are traped by the workings of the Satanist because they have not been found !

Who wants people to suffer under deamonic Satanic game plays ? were people are offered up to their gods like Moloch how many Children are offered up each day and who cares ? only the Saved do or people who feel it's wrong to do ? then about Wars that are created who is clearly offering them people up ? for what ! Nonsense ! the peoples lives are clearly being sold out for nonsense lies and deceptions, for they creat delusions in fact ! even lives of Baby's are offered up to Moloch and if one is to call such out, you are seen as the criminal nowadays !
If we let Evil flourish, then one is of Satan in fact ! And we have Goverments who are clearly letting people get out of hand running loose like a fool ! They are aiding it all !

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Who told you that insults are helpful?

I have insulted you many times and you still are desperate to talk to me. So, you must be fine with them or else I'd be on your ignore list. Why is asking a question about why you are dishonest not helpful? I really would like to know. It might explain some things.

I said "To assume that what is described in Revelation 20 has to chronologically follow what is described in Revelation 19 is not exegesis. It's eisegesis. Clearly, the book is not all chronological". You replied "Maybe". Really? Only maybe? What I said is undeniably true. In Revelation 19 and 20, there is nothing in and of themselves to clearly indicate one way or another whether what is written in them should be understood chronologically or not. Also, it's undeniable that the book is not all chronological or else you would have to conclude the that seventh trumpet sounded before the birth and ascension of Christ (see Revelation 11 and 12). So, why would you just say "maybe" to that?

You don't seem to understand exegetical principles.

Yes, I do. You clearly don't and prove it over and over and over again. I'm not going to waste time arguing with you about something like this when all you do is talk a bunch of unintelligible gibberish to try to support your view. You never just speak plainly.

We are examining a passage of scripture, attempting to derive the intended meaning from the immediate context. Revelation 19 should be considered when looking at Revelation 20 because the topic has not changed from one chapter to the other.

You can consider it, but you should also consider at the same time that the book is not all chronological.

The process you suggest is vulnerable to errors because of confirmation bias.

Total nonsense. I am not wasting any more time reading this gibberish. You're very robotic in your long winded, unintelligible explanations of things.