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So lets look again at the promise and the warning too .
GOD did promise the land to them and he also warned them if ye become as the inhabitants of the land
I WILL CAST you out . And HE DID . And any and all who rejected JESUS the CHRIST
wont be inheriting THE PROMISE . rather SUDDEN destruction .
Lets keep that in mind . The heavenly Kingdom will descend one day . Dont expect to see those who beleived not
and rejected CHRIST anywhere near that KINGDOM . The lake of fierce fire and destruction will be their place of torment .
So my advice remains , GET ANYONE outta interfaith and remind all of the dire absolute necessary NEED
to BELIEVE JESUS is the CHRIST . Turn the world upside down WITH THE TRUE GOSPEL
and be not as many who sell anti christs interfaith . Cause they will not EVER attain the very peace n safety
They thought this anti christ message will give them . ONLY SUDDEN destruction awaits them all who loved a lie .
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Many Prophesise describe the virtual destruction of Judah:

Jeremiah chapter 13:1-10 Jeremiah is instructed to buy a loincloth. He is then told to hide it near a river. After a long time, he retrieved it, but it was rotten and ruined.
Jeremiah 13:11-27 Thus, I shall ruin the enormous pride of Judah, these people with stubborn hearts, who worship other gods – they will become like that cloth, no good for anything. Hosea 8:14, Jeremiah 8:5-12
......I bound all Israel and all Judah to Me, so that they should become a source of renown and praise to Me, but they did not listen. Isaiah 31:6-7
....I shall make all who live in Jerusalem drunk..... I shall show no compassion nor refrain from destroying them. Obadiah 12-16
Pay heed, be not too proud to listen, for it is the Lord who speaks.

Give glory to God, before the light that you look for turns to darkness.
If in the depths you will not listen, then weep bitterly for the Lords people are carried off into captivity.
[Judah conquered by Babylon and again in AD70] Ezekiel 21:14

Say to the King and the Queen mother; take a humble seat, for your crowns have fallen. Ezekiel 21:25-27
The towns in the Negev are besieged, no one can relieve them. Judah has been swept clean away. This is paralleled by Ezekiel 20:46-47, Isaiah 9:18-19, Jer 10:18

Look up and see! Those people who are coming from the North.
The Lord’s people, all true Christians, migrating to the Land. Isaiah 41:8-10

Where is the flock that you were so proud of?
God’s people mow scattered among the nations.

What will you say when your leaders are missing? When you wonder why this has happened? It is because of your many sins. Isaiah 3:1-3
Can a Nubian change his skin? No more can you, [Judah] do good, so accustomed are you to doing evil. Isaiah 38-9
I will scatter you like chaff, before the desert wind. Jeremiah 33:14

This is your lot – I have decreed this for you, because you have forgotten Me and trusted in false gods. I will bare your shame for all to see. Isaiah 3:16-26

For your adulteries and shameful deeds – woe to you Jerusalem. How much longer will you be unclean? Nahum 1:12-15

This is a clear prophecy about the judgement of Judah in ancient times and again, soon to happen, proved by the unfulfilled prophesies here and throughout the Bible.
Then, the Lord’s faithful Christian people will enter the Land from the North. Isaiah 49:12 They will live there, in peace and security, to prepare for the Return of Jesus.
 

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My friend. You need to dig deeper. Yes he told them they would be cast out. in fact it would be a huge defeat. in Lev 26 he makes it clear. so here I agree with you..

Lev 26:
27 ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me, 28 then I also will walk contrary to you in fury;
and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.
30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and cast your carcasses on the lifeless forms of your idols;
and My soul shall abhor you.

31 I will lay your cities waste and bring your sanctuaries to desolation, and I will not smell the fragrance of your sweet aromas.
32 I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in it shall be astonished at it.
33 I will scatter you among the nations and draw out a sword after you; your land shall be desolate and your cities waste.
34 Then the land shall enjoy its sabbaths as long as it lies desolate and you are in your enemies’ land;
then the land shall rest and enjoy its sabbaths.


35 As long as it lies desolate it shall rest—
for the time it did not rest on your sabbaths when you dwelt in it.

36 ‘And as for those of you who are left, I will send faintness[i] into their hearts in the lands of their enemies;
the sound of a shaken leaf shall cause them to flee;
they shall flee as though fleeing from a sword, and they shall fall when no one pursues.

37 They shall stumble over one another, as it were before a sword, when no one pursues;
and you shall have no power to stand before your enemies.

38 You shall perish among the nations, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up.
39 And those of you who are left shall [j]waste away in their iniquity in your enemies’ lands;

also in their fathers’ iniquities, which are with them, they shall waste away.

so i would say this is prety harsh punishment for a nation that disobeyed God to the point he punished them 7 times over..

But you see, it does not end here. And if poeople would actually study, they would see this. for you see God (through moses) goes on. and there is still hope.

40 ‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me, 41 and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—

42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember; I will remember the land.
43 The land also shall be left empty by them, and will enjoy its sabbaths while it lies desolate without them;
they will accept their guilt, because they despised My judgments and because their soul abhorred My statutes.

44 Yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, nor shall I abhor them, to utterly destroy them and break My covenant with them; for I am the Lord their God.
45 But for their sake I will remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God:
I am the Lord.’ ”



You see God is not done with Israel. even then. And the prophets show. as shown here. they will repent. and God will restore them, and bring them back to their land when they have repented and he will be there God.

Your right, unbelieving Israel will not be restored.

but for the umpteenth time, no one said they will. THEY WILL REPENT, AND GOD WILL RESTORE THEM

God said it and made it clear. STOP ARGUING WITH GOD!!!!
i know this all my friend . Some of us read the bible for ourselves and dont allow men to twist it through concepts and precepts
of they own .
Always remember FOR MY NAME SAKE . look real closely at that . FOR MY NAME SAKE .
what do you see about forgiveness about the promise .
Moses heard GOD speak from the bush and he said BUT LORD who shall i tell them sent me .
MOSES HEARD the NAME . Tell that i am that I am sent thee .
BUT WHO REVEALED THAT NAME . Think slowly and think longly too .
WHO manifested , MADE SEEN , was SEEN , the NAME OF GOD .
a hint , I HAVE GIVEN THEM your name , I HAVE MADE MANIFEST YOUR NAME .
you might be wondering that the heck is ol amigo babbling on about now .
ONLY THIS . MANY LOOK TO THE FLESH of man
AND CANNOT SEE very plainly what GOD has revealed and made manifest
and that the VERY PROMISE upon which all promises pertained , WAS AND IS HE who abraham seen
JEHOVAH JIREH . IN SIE MOUNTAIN OF THE LORD IT SHALL BE SEEEEEEEEEEEN it shall be provided .
Many still look to the earthly pattern , that pattern was to be but for a time till the promise came .
MANY cannot see nor discern .
The kingdom they praise is here and the hopes they have is in men and they have no idea
what amos seen or said when he too wrote about
That which was not earthen but heavenly . and james quoates it with peter .
MANY LOOK for the tabernacle made by hands . BUt the days have come
wherein the breach would be made up and that which was broken down would be restored
THE KINGDOM IS IN HEAVEN , but many still cling to the flesh of man
just as many HOPE in men . KNOW what i mean trump and kamala suporters .
MANY know and have idea what i now speak and have been saying . THEY have had affections on earth
and have sat under men gone wrong whose hopes were in this life and men and in THIS KINGDOM .
SOrry for the long long rant my friend . SORRY i couldnt make it plainer
but what the heck no matter if i make it plain or not , SO FEW HEED IT ANWAY . so sorrowful is my soul .
So heavy is my soul . but weep not for me , i weep for them .
 
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My friend. You need to dig deeper. Yes he told them they would be cast out. in fact it would be a huge defeat. in Lev 26 he makes it clear. so here I agree with you..

Lev 26:
27 ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me, 28 then I also will walk contrary to you in fury;
and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.
30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and cast your carcasses on the lifeless forms of your idols;
and My soul shall abhor you.

31 I will lay your cities waste and bring your sanctuaries to desolation, and I will not smell the fragrance of your sweet aromas.
32 I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in it shall be astonished at it.
33 I will scatter you among the nations and draw out a sword after you; your land shall be desolate and your cities waste.
34 Then the land shall enjoy its sabbaths as long as it lies desolate and you are in your enemies’ land;
then the land shall rest and enjoy its sabbaths.


35 As long as it lies desolate it shall rest—
for the time it did not rest on your sabbaths when you dwelt in it.

36 ‘And as for those of you who are left, I will send faintness[i] into their hearts in the lands of their enemies;
the sound of a shaken leaf shall cause them to flee;
they shall flee as though fleeing from a sword, and they shall fall when no one pursues.

37 They shall stumble over one another, as it were before a sword, when no one pursues;
and you shall have no power to stand before your enemies.

38 You shall perish among the nations, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up.
39 And those of you who are left shall [j]waste away in their iniquity in your enemies’ lands;

also in their fathers’ iniquities, which are with them, they shall waste away.

so i would say this is prety harsh punishment for a nation that disobeyed God to the point he punished them 7 times over..

But you see, it does not end here. And if poeople would actually study, they would see this. for you see God (through moses) goes on. and there is still hope.

40 ‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me, 41 and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—

42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember; I will remember the land.
43 The land also shall be left empty by them, and will enjoy its sabbaths while it lies desolate without them;
they will accept their guilt, because they despised My judgments and because their soul abhorred My statutes.

44 Yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, nor shall I abhor them, to utterly destroy them and break My covenant with them; for I am the Lord their God.
45 But for their sake I will remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God:
I am the Lord.’ ”



You see God is not done with Israel. even then. And the prophets show. as shown here. they will repent. and God will restore them, and bring them back to their land when they have repented and he will be there God.

Your right, unbelieving Israel will not be restored.

but for the umpteenth time, no one said they will. THEY WILL REPENT, AND GOD WILL RESTORE THEM

God said it and made it clear. STOP ARGUING WITH GOD!!!!
so tell me , when did the sanhedrian and the jews who now run israel , RIGHT INTO THE GROUND IF YA ASK ME ,
EVER REPENT . i mean NOT A ONE of them kabbala leaders WILL EVEN CLIAM JESUS is the CHRIST .
Yet they make ready a temple for the people , A TEMPLE OF SATANS INTERFIATH .
YOU really think these jews WHO HATE GOD and i mean HATE HIM BIG TIME are gonna remain in the land
MUCH LONGER . NO SIR . WHEN JESUS COMETH all will howl both thejew and the gentile who rejected HIM
and all who bought intothe lie of interfaith will wail in a fierce lake of fire .
Sorry to seem like mr doom n gloom . BUT OH WELL . I GOTS TO WARN , SO WARN I WILL .
And you cannot stop me . You must do as you must and i will do as i must . I weep for many friend
but intefaith is of satan and no jew or gentile who rejectes JESUS is OF GOD PEROID . now go
and gather your friends who are weary of hearing my reminders and do what you feel you must .
I must do as i must . But not a one of you all will stop me . You have to ban me . or i pray agree with me .
cause as long as i am here THERE WILL BE NO UNITY there will be only my warnings and reminders .
 
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so tell me , when did the sanhedrian and the jews who now run israel , RIGHT INTO THE GROUND IF YA ASK ME ,
EVER REPENT . i
dude sometimes you just wear me out with you inability to keep up

Who said they did? They are not restored? Is Jesus king n Jerusalem. Please if you’re not going to pay attention walk away. Your hurting yourself lev 26 states if they repent god will restore them. To argue with that is t argue with God
 

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Jeremiah 33:1-3 The Word of the Lord came to Jeremiah while he was imprisoned. The Lord says: If you call to Me, I will answer and tell you of great and mysterious things that you are unaware of.
Jeremiah prophesied to the House of Judah, many years after the House of Israel was taken into exile by the Assyrians. He foretold how things would be after the Babylonian conquest of Judah, but this was not completely fulfilled then or after the Roman conquest of Judah in 70-135 AD.

Jeremiah 33:4-5 & 10 The houses of this city and the great buildings of Judah which are now destroyed by the sword of judgement, will be filled with dead bodies. They are those slain by the Lord Himself, because He has turned away from them. The Lord says: See this Land, now in ruins and devoid of people and animals.
Again; not fulfilled as yet. Jeremiah 9:10-11, Isaiah 4:3-6, Zephaniah 1:1-18

Ezekiel 21:14...swing the great sword of slaughter three times, whirling about Judah.

As Ezekiel says: there will be a triple fulfilment of the punishment of Judah. Two of these have happened, by Babylon and Rome but the next is ‘by the Lord Himself’, by the means of a Coronal Mass Ejection, an explosion on the suns surface. Isaiah 30:26 This event is prophesied and graphically described over 100 times in the Bible, as ‘the terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath’. The entire Middle East will become ‘ruined and devoid of people and animals’. This was not the case with the two previous punishments. Ezekiel 6:14, Hosea 4:3, Zechariah 3:10

But for now, as we await this sudden and terrifying Day that the Lord will take action, we must:
Isaiah 35:3-4 Brace the arms that are limp, steady the knees that give way, say to the anxious: Be strong, fear not. Your God comes to save you, with His vengeance and retribution. Jeremiah 30:4-11, Zephaniah 3:16-20, Hebrews 10:37-39

Isaiah 35:5 THEN the eyes of the blind will be opened and the ears of the deaf unstopped. Isaiah 29:24 The confused will gain understanding and the obstinate will accept instruction. Isaiah 6:9-10

The truth about this coming event is not generally known among believers. The reason is due to beliefs in false theories, Isaiah 29:9-12, or a lack of interest in prophecy. They remain ‘in the dark’ about what will happen. 2 Thess. 5:1-11

Only during or after it happens, will understanding be given to all those who have been unable to comprehend the Prophetic Word. They will say: It was there; in plain language, but I couldn’t see it!

Soon after that, many prophesies say how the holy Land will be regenerated;
Jeremiah 33:6-9 In this Land, will be heard once more the sounds of joy and gladness, of weddings and celebrations. People will shout: Praise the Lord, for He is good, His love endures forever’, as they offer thanksgiving in the House of the Lord. By the Word of the Lord: In this place and in all its towns, now ruined and cleared of all peoples and animals, flocks and herds will once more graze. My people will receive all the blessings that I have promised to them. Ezekiel 36:8-12, Amos 9:13-15

Isaiah 35:10 The Lord’s people, set free, will come back and enter Zion with shouts of triumph, with great joy and singing praises to their God. Suffering and sorrow will flee away. Zechariah 9:16-17, Romans 9:24-26

Great are the promises the Lord has made to His faithful Christian people. We will indeed ‘sing praises to the Lord’, when we are settled into our inheritance, all of the holy Land.

The House of the Lord: The new Temple will be built in Jerusalem. Haggai 2:6-9
 

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A totally worthless comment.
I posted the plain Words of the Prophets, you want to make then meaningless. Not right or even sensible.

I understand your being defensive, but the best of scholars--even the Pharisees, and for that matter Satan, knew and quote scripture. To which the only answer is also written, showing the scriptures to be given in parables as spirit: They must be spiritually discerned--not worldly.
 
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ScottA,

You absolutely have made some very good points of truth from scripture.

Now balance it out with all scripture.

Example: 2 Thess 1:3-10 and Revelation 6:12-16

We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure, which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

Good. Yet those too must be spiritually discerned, for they speak of things only seen in the spirit--seen by all--but each one in his own order.
 

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Good. Yet those too must be spiritually discerned, for they speak of things only seen in the spirit--seen by all--but each one in his own order.

The Holy Scriptures SPEAK of BOTH

That which is seen and pertains to this life and the Elements HE Created
AND
to the unseen spiritual which some can be seen by the Natural but TRUTH can only be seen by the Spirit of God thru His Word
 

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The Holy Scriptures SPEAK of BOTH

That which is seen and pertains to this life and the Elements HE Created
AND
to the unseen spiritual which some can be seen by the Natural but TRUTH can only be seen by the Spirit of God thru His Word

Indeed, the scriptures speak of both.

And you are correct to say He created the elements. But what are the elements but light and energy (the making of all matter in the universe) created and given form where there was none? It is written, that mankind is made of the same elements as the earth, which again returns to nothing. But the spirit is forever. The focus on what is now seen, is only for revelation, and the words are spirit as God is spirit. Thus, to make more of what is seen and the words used to convey a spiritual revelation, than the spiritual revelation itself, is little more than a fools errand.
 

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Indeed, the scriptures speak of both.

And you are correct to say He created the elements. But what are the elements but light and energy (the making of all matter in the universe) created and given form where there was none? It is written, that mankind is made of the same elements as the earth, which again returns to nothing. But the spirit is forever. The focus on what is now seen, is only for revelation, and the words are spirit as God is spirit. Thus, to make more of what is seen and the words used to convey a spiritual revelation, than the spiritual revelation itself, is little more than a fools errand.
i AGREE with you up to this erroneous comment: "is a little more than a fools errand."

Now, from God's words, can you find out where you made a "fools errand"..................
 

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i AGREE with you up to this erroneous comment: "is a little more than a fools errand."

Now, from God's words, can you find out where you made a "fools errand"..................

I don't need to entertain such a thing. But the point is: "Which is greater?" and which is to be considered true, the spiritual or man's literary understanding of God's word?
 

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I don't need to entertain such a thing. But the point is: "Which is greater?" and which is to be considered true, the spiritual or man's literary understanding of God's word?
But the point is: "Which is greater?"
The TRUTH is the Greatest!!!
The LORD says: "IAM the Way the TRUTH and the Life"

I don't need to entertain such a thing.
Yes you do, for this is a 'must-do' for everyone.

"For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him."

I don't need to entertain such a thing.
Yes you do, for this is a 'must-do' for everyone.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen,
being understood by the things that are made/seen, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
 

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The TRUTH is the Greatest!!!
The LORD says: "IAM the Way the TRUTH and the Life"


Yes you do, for this is a 'must-do' for everyone.

"For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him."


Yes you do, for this is a 'must-do' for everyone.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen,
being understood by the things that are made/seen, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

While all of that is true...that is not the point.

The point, my original point regarding this topic-- is that a worldly understanding of heavenly revelation limited to worldly fulfillment, simply falls short of the truth that God has revealed.
 

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While all of that is true...that is not the point.

The point, my original point regarding this topic-- is that a worldly understanding of heavenly revelation limited to worldly fulfillment, simply falls short of the truth that God has revealed.
OK Scott and DavidNJ, now tell us what truth God has revealed thru Jeremiah?
Frankly, I prefer the K.I.S.S. principal and a plain understanding of the Prophetic Word.

In the OP, Jeremiah states that the Lord intends to send out a scorching wind, which will destroy the wicked.
Then in Jeremiah 31:7-14, he describes the gathering of the faithful, righteous peoples into all of the holy Land, where they will live in plenty and peace.
Any belief different to this scenario, is contrary to the Bible.
 

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OK Scott and DavidNJ, now tell us what truth God has revealed thru Jeremiah?
Frankly, I prefer the K.I.S.S. principal and a plain understanding of the Prophetic Word.

In the OP, Jeremiah states that the Lord intends to send out a scorching wind, which will destroy the wicked.
Then in Jeremiah 31:7-14, he describes the gathering of the faithful, righteous peoples into all of the holy Land, where they will live in plenty and peace.
Any belief different to this scenario, is contrary to the Bible.

The prophecy of Jeremiah 30 is regarding "the time of Jacob's (not Israel's) trouble." Meaning that time when the children of Jacob came to crucify their Messiah sent to them. Which spiritually, the noted difference between Jacob and Israel by name, is to say: before--before Israel was saved by the coming of Messiah, just as Jacob was before God previously "changed" in name only. The name change itself was a prophecy, which Jeremiah elaborated upon.

The noted change, regards their being raised up "in Christ", at long last--"up to Zion, to the Lord our God" (Jeremiah 31:6). Which then is the context and setting in verses 7-14. Thus, it is not a prophecy of a worldly event, but heavenly.
 

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While all of that is true...that is not the point.

The point, my original point regarding this topic-- is that a worldly understanding of heavenly revelation limited to worldly fulfillment, simply falls short of the truth that God has revealed.
I believe the scriptures i have given should help you to have greater depth.

There are many more as well.
 

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Thank you, but the greatest depth (or rather, height) is spiritual. Which is the point.
I believe the scriptures i have given should help you to have greater depth.
Still nothing but worthless comments. Of no earthly use.

Doesn't the current situation now, of 2 savage wars ongoing, with no real prospect of a peaceful solution, make people think that just maybe God will intervene to change the world, as He has said He will?
From the many Prophesies, we can deduce that by the time Jesus Returns, there will be no ungodly people left alive. Only His faithful Christian peoples will go into the Millennium with Him.

So; what seems likely, there is coming a dramatic event to commence the end times, a world changer, just as Jeremiah 30:4-7, Isaiah 66:15-17, Ezekiel 7:1-14, 2 Peter 3:7, +, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster; Revelation 6:12-17