Israel reigns over the nations

[Spiritual Israelite]

So which tribe of Israel are you from?


Revelation 7
7 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.

6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.

7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.

8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

Was the scripture I posted that referred to people in the church as being chosen not clear enough for you? I think your religion might be Judaism rather than Christianity since you think everything revolves around Israel even though scripture actually revolves around Christ and His church. Am I right? Are you into Judaism?

 

[tailgator]

You are blind. The church (Israel of God) are God's chosen.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Romans 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

If your going to claim to be one of the 144000 of the tribes of Israel,then you tell everyone which tribe you are from.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

If your going to claim to be one of the 144000 of the tribes of Israel,then you tell everyone which tribe you are from.

I'm not claiming that, goofball. Are you trying to distract from the fact that scripture calls people in the church God's chosen people?

Again...

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Romans 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

Is there some reason why you don't include Gentile believers among God's chosen? Is it because your religion is Judaism?

 

[tailgator]

I'm not claiming that, goofball. Are you trying to distract from the fact that scripture calls people in the church God's chosen people?

Again...

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Romans 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

Is there some reason why you don't include Gentile believers among God's chosen? Is it because your religion is Judaism?

This thread is about Israel ruling over the nations in the Lord's land.

You are of the nations.Your not Israel.Your not one on the 144000 of Israel

Goofball

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

This thread is about Israel ruling over the nations in the Lord's land.

You are of the nations.Your not Israel.Your not one on the 144000 of Israel

If you try to teach things that aren't true, as you are doing in this thread, then people have every right to refute your false teaching.

Do you deny that Gentile believers are among God's chosen? Is your religion Judaism?

 

[tailgator]

If you try to teach things that aren't true, as you are doing in this thread, then people have every right to refute your false teaching.

Do you deny that Gentile believers are among God's chosen? Is your religion Judaism?

I'm quoting the word of God.
You can say it's not true all you want but it's still true.


Israel shall rule over the nations in the Lord's land just as the word of God says.

Isaiah 14:2
Nations will take them and bring them to their own place. And Israel will take possession of the nations and make them male and female servants in the LORD’s land. They will make captives of their captors and rule over their oppressors

Now do you comprehend why?
Or are you going to continue saying it's not true,?

 

[tailgator]

If you try to teach things that aren't true, as you are doing in this thread, then people have every right to refute your false teaching.

Do you deny that Gentile believers are among God's chosen? Is your religion Judaism?

It's called the word of God
Do you hate the word of God?


Nations will take them and bring them to their own place. And Israel will take possession of the nations and make them male and female servants in the LORD’s land. They will make captives of their captors and rule over their oppressors


Do you prefer your own word ?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Do you see what Israel is faced with ?
It's right here.


Revelation 20

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.




This is Israel reigning with Christ in the Lord's land just as Isaiah prophecied.

lol.

I am done, You are not willing to listen to anything.

Show me where I said israel would not rule? Can you?

you just repeat the same vomit over and over, I think I will just place you on ignore. And stop feeding the troll

 

[tailgator]

lol.

I am done, You are not willing to listen to anything.

Show me where I said israel would not rule? Can you?

you just repeat the same vomit over and over, I think I will just place you on ignore. And stop feeding the troll

So you don't comprehend why Israel shall rule over the nations in the Lord's land

I've quoted more than enough for anyone to understand .


Goodbye troll

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I'm quoting the word of God.

So am I. You made a claim about who God's chosen are, acting as if it's the nation of Israel and I showed you that God's chosen are those who are in the church. You won't accept correction because you are spiritually blind and your apparent religion of choice is Judaism.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

It's called the word of God
Do you hate the word of God?

LOL. No, clown, I love the word of God and I used it to back up what I was saying. You noticeably are just ignoring the word of God that I quoted because you just believe what you want to believe.

 

[Marty fox]

Isaiah is not talking about the nations reigning over the nations.
He is talking about literal Israel reigning over the nations in the Lord's land.


You don't have any problem with God's chosen reigning over you ,do you?If you do ,then maybe the Lord's land isn't for you.

I have no idea what you mean

 

[Marty fox]

This thread is about Israel ruling over the nations in the Lord's land.

You are of the nations.Your not Israel.Your not one on the 144000 of Israel

Goofball

Romans 9:6
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Romans 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob

So who exactually is "all Israel"?

 

[tailgator]

So am I. You made a claim about who God's chosen are, acting as if it's the nation of Israel and I showed you that God's chosen are those who are in the church. You won't accept correction because you are spiritually blind and your apparent religion of choice is Judaism.

Just remember ,Israel rules over the nations in Jesus's land.
And your not of any tribe of Israel.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Just remember ,Israel rules over the nations in Jesus's land.
And your not of any tribe of Israel.

Just remember, you have no idea of what you're talking about and you ignore the existence of the spiritual Israel of God.

Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.

 

[Marty fox]

Just remember, you have no idea of what you're talking about and you ignore the existence of the spiritual Israel of God.

Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.

Adding to this

Hagar and Sarah​

21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. 23 His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise.

24 These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. 27 For it is written:

“Be glad, barren woman,
you who never bore a child;
shout for joy and cry aloud,
you who were never in labor;
because more are the children of the desolate woman
than of her who has a husband.”[e]
28 Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.”[f] 31 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

 

[tailgator]

Just remember, you have no idea of what you're talking about and you ignore the existence of the spiritual Israel of God.

Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.

These Israelis reigning with Christ in his land would say you have no idea what your talking about.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


And you believe Israelis can not recieve Christ.

 

[tailgator]

Adding to this

Hagar and Sarah​

21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. 23 His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise.

24 These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. 27 For it is written:

“Be glad, barren woman,
you who never bore a child;
shout for joy and cry aloud,
you who were never in labor;
because more are the children of the desolate woman
than of her who has a husband.”[e]
28 Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.”[f] 31 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

Do you also believe ,no one in Israel can receive Christ?

Not only do they receive Christ,are hated by their own families because of Jesus name.That is something you will never experience.


Mathew 10
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.



While they are being killed for their testimony of Christ,you will be posting on the internet

 

[Marty fox]

Do you also believe ,no one in Israel can receive Christ?

Not only do they receive Christ,are hated by their own families because of Jesus name.That is something you will never experience.


Mathew 10
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.



While they are being killed for their testimony of Christ,you will be posting on the internet

Why would you even think that? Of course, they can receive Jesus many have and Paul who wrote that verse was Jewish. Maybe you shouldn't be so accusing and ask people what they think first.

The church is made up of both Jew and Gentile

 

[tailgator]

Why would you even think that? Of course, they can receive Jesus many have and Paul who wrote that verse was Jewish. Maybe you shouldn't be so accusing and ask people what they think first.

The church is made up of both Jew and Gentile

But it is Israel that is being persecuted in these verses.Dont you agree?


Mathew 10
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come